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Feds can't make up minds on mercury bulbs
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 22, 2011 | WND

Posted on 07/23/2011 7:27:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In what critics call a classic case of the government working at cross purposes, Washington is forcing residents across the country to install mercury lighting inside their homes while phasing out mercury lighting outside homes to protect the environment.

Yes, you read that right.

In 2005, Congress passed a law banning mercury vapor streetlights – two years before it banned incandescent light bulbs in favor of mercury vapor compact florescent bulbs.

Under the Energy Policy Act, signed by President Bush in August 2005, manufacturers cannot make or import ballasts for mercury vapor lights after Jan. 1, 2008. According to the act, mercury vapor security lights are being phased out to "protect the environment" and to "promote energy efficiency" in lighting.

Utility companies across the country have been replacing mercury vapor street lamps with high-pressure sodium fixtures or metal halide fixtures, which are twice as efficient as mercury vapor and possibly safer. The EPA classifies mercury as a hazardous material.

Yet the federal government is pushing consumers to replace traditional incandescent bulbs used in their homes with compact fluorescents containing toxic mercury vapor.

A former Energy Department official says there's a regulatory "disconnect" regarding mercury lighting.

"We're removing mercury from outside the home while adding it inside," he said. "It makes no sense."

In 2007 – two years after enacting the ban on outdoor mercury lighting – Congress passed the Energy Independence and Security Act, also signed by Bush. It mandated the use of compact florescent lighting in U.S. homes by making incandescent bulbs a controlled substance and outlawing the 100-watt bulb by 2012, and all other wattages by 2014.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bans; bds; bdslivesonfr; bush; cfls; choice; congress; dubya; energy; environment; georgewbush; incandescents; liberty; lightbulbs; mercury; mercuryvapor; nannystate; presidentbush; think4once; whatelseinbill

1 posted on 07/23/2011 7:27:18 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Bush’s fault.

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 07/23/2011 7:28:24 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (DWS: A communist propagandist under a big mound of hair)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe they should stop trying and let the consumers decide.


3 posted on 07/23/2011 7:32:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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4 posted on 07/23/2011 7:33:08 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: cripplecreek
Maybe they should stop trying and let the consumers decide.

This consumer already decided.....to stock up on 100 watters.

5 posted on 07/23/2011 7:35:24 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Everything the government touches turns to shit.

Absolutely every single thing. Every time.


6 posted on 07/23/2011 7:37:17 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The feral government is merely implementing Cloward-Piven.

Overwhelm the system.

Bring it to it's knees and shoot it in the head, then say "See! See! We told you freedom and capitalism don't work!"

7 posted on 07/23/2011 7:41:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: cripplecreek

Cleaning up _4_ broken ones in an approximate 3 month time span gave me mild mercury poisoning last year.

[a blood level of “49” which is 10X the “safe amount”]

It was a *very* physically unpleasant 6 months until my levels came back down.

Think about that for a while.

Imagine how *little* it would take to poison a much smaller _child_.

Thanks nanny state hypocrites!


8 posted on 07/23/2011 7:41:50 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: Salamander
Glenn Beck Breaks CFL Bulb For Earthday
9 posted on 07/23/2011 7:45:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bush the veto pussy.

Jerk wouldn’t veto anything. How many in EIGHT STINKING YEARS?

We’ve been saddled with so much socialist crap because the [insert a vulgar noun here] wouldn’t veto anything and he wouldn’t lead the party, except when he wanted amnesty for illegals.

IMO the only good thing about W was that he wasn’t Algore.


10 posted on 07/23/2011 7:50:14 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“It makes no sense.”

The definitive description of interfering government.


11 posted on 07/23/2011 7:51:04 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I have decided long ago, that whenever the Feds don't make sense, some on has greased their palms.

Follow the money, and I bet it makes perfect sense for someones bottom line - just not for policy.

We have very little logic behind policy anymore - just lobby money, and whatever policy they want at the moment.

12 posted on 07/23/2011 7:54:49 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: cripplecreek

At least they broke it outside where the PPM is nearly neglible.

I had one *explode* in the light socket in the laundry room, showering its happy little payload into my freshly washed basket of clothes.

Not knowing any better, I simply rewashed them and put them in the drier, thus spreading the mercury vapor and dust *everywhere*.

Brilliant of me, wasn’t it?

[there were no “haz-mat cleanup instructions” on the box]


13 posted on 07/23/2011 7:55:03 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A couple of years ago when the CFLs first started coming out, a buddy of mine opined over a bunch of beers that someday the capital and white house would have to be closed when a bunch of people would break a bunch of CFL bulbs as a protest, which would then be labeled as terrorist attacks, and then cause martial law to be declared.

Yes, we were drunk at the time, but I think I can see this happening these days.

Mark

14 posted on 07/23/2011 7:59:37 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I have to agree with you. Bush was a real letdown.


15 posted on 07/23/2011 8:04:27 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I just don’t understand the love affair with W.


16 posted on 07/23/2011 8:10:05 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Salamander

>> Imagine how *little* it would take to poison a much smaller _child_.

Or a pet.


17 posted on 07/23/2011 8:17:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: All

Wouldn’t it be something if pelosi, reid, obama and boner all got some mercury bulbs mailed to them? And they weren’t packed correctly? No padding or styrofoam peanuts to stop them from breaking during shipment? You know, as a protest? Would that be against the law? mmmm?


18 posted on 07/23/2011 8:24:36 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"We're removing mercury from outside the home while adding it inside," he said. "It makes no sense."

I'm shocked. /s
Government is not sense or reason. It is force.

19 posted on 07/23/2011 8:29:51 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Salamander

Death to the evil toxic twisty bulbs!


20 posted on 07/23/2011 8:31:07 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ping


21 posted on 07/23/2011 8:35:20 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Just another reason I wasn’t at all happy with Bush as POTUS...


22 posted on 07/23/2011 8:41:40 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If mercury is illegal outside, it should be illegal inside. But then they’ll probably make us switch to sodium-vapor CFLs. Welcome to Yellow World.


23 posted on 07/23/2011 9:08:22 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: Salamander

It scares me to think of the 48-inch fluorescent bulbs I smashed over the years because they wouldn’t fit in the trash otherwise.


24 posted on 07/23/2011 9:10:15 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The banning spoken of was not for mercury vapor bulbs, but the energy wasting ballasts they used. The ban was not related to the mercury in the bulbs.

Mercury Vapor lamps emit 50% less light every 5 years of life, yet draw the same amount of current, making them incredible energy wasters after just a couple years.

So, as much as I dislike CFL’s, this article doesn’t make too much sense.


25 posted on 07/23/2011 9:44:14 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Gene Eric

Lord...don’t even go there!

Two of the evil things broke in my art room to which the dogs have access.

I had to shut the door to the art studio, run the dogs to the other side of the house [with *3* doors between them and the studio] open the outside door/windows in the studio and *then* start to ~carefully~ clean it up with a damp sponge and spray mister full of water.

I can’t imagine the concentrations that wet, sticky, sniffing, floor-level noses could accumulate.

To top it off, there’s only *one* brand that has a color temp/flicker rate that doesn’t make me want to commit murder or suicide.

I seriously hate those damn things.

[and unless we’re “doing something wrong”, they haven’t made even a tiny dent in our electric bill, either]


26 posted on 07/23/2011 10:32:28 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: AZLiberty

Yeah...that’s a pretty freaky thought.


27 posted on 07/23/2011 10:34:07 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: Salamander

I hear ya’. I’ve had a circuit melt down on a CFL. It was contained, but it stunk up the house. It’s a complex bulb compared to the incandescents.

I’m not adverse to technology, but the jackasses in DC forced this crap down our throats completely screwing the natural cycle of demand, cost, and quality.

Thanks to CFLs, the nightly ambient warmth of our neighborhoods has been lost to an industrial blue haze.


28 posted on 07/23/2011 11:03:50 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Salamander

While I detest class-action lawsuits you and other should join in the future class-action against the makers of mercury lightbulbs. It is a testament to the stupidity of liberalism and the nanny state that we are introducing a toxic and damaging substance into our homes to be more “environmental”.

Think of all the super-fund cleanup sites we will have at landfills.

Crazy! I bet there will be a huge class-action soon. While there are certainly more important decisions to be made in D.C. this one is absolute proof of how truly broken our country is.


29 posted on 07/23/2011 11:22:24 PM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Mercury poisoning en.wikipedia.org

30 posted on 07/23/2011 11:54:43 PM PDT by Daaave ( "I'm still technically alive!")
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To: Gene Eric

I had that happen with the reading light hovering right over my head...and never knew about it until I looked at one night, for no apparent reason.
[I have no sense of smell so *that* didn’t alert me]

The base was scorched and half melted yet the light was still working...until I threw the evil thing in the trash

My last mercury level test was up from a 4 to a 9.

Coincidence, I’m sure.

/s


31 posted on 07/24/2011 2:15:58 AM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: volunbeer

I’d cheerfully join it even though I know I’d get about $3 after the legal sharks get their chunks of meat.

Spite is good enough for me.

I live in the *huge* Potomac watershed area.

The local landfill is about 13 miles away.

Spring has become “monsoon season” here lately and I can just picture the mercury from the thousands upon thousands of discarded light bulbs happily seeping its way underground, into the streams and aquifers, winding down-river, into the bay and out to the ocean.

It’s just such a wonderfully “green” scenario, isn’t it?

*sigh*


32 posted on 07/24/2011 2:22:17 AM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: Daaave

Signs and symptoms

Common symptoms of mercury poisoning include peripheral neuropathy (presenting as paresthesia or itching, burning or pain), skin discoloration (pink cheeks, fingertips and toes), swelling, and desquamation (shedding of skin).


You cannot *imagine* the burning/itching sensation.

Mercury is thought to inactivate S-adenosyl-methionine, which is necessary for catecholamine catabolism by catechol-o-methyl transferase. Due to the body’s inability to degrade catecholamines (e.g. Epinephrine) a person suffering from mercury poisoning may experience profuse sweating, tachycardia (persistently faster-than-normal heart beat), increased salivation, and hypertension (high blood pressure).


The profuse sweating and tachycardia were a real blast.
My normally abnormally low BP went from mid-80s to 120.
That is a raging high BP for *me*.
I spent last summer feeling like I was having 24/7 heart attacks.
[but I helped save GAIA!]

Affected children may show red cheeks, nose and lips, loss of hair, teeth, and nails, transient rashes, hypotonia (muscle weakness), and increased sensitivity to light. Other symptoms may include kidney dysfunction (e.g. Fanconi syndrome) or neuropsychiatric symptoms such as emotional lability, memory impairment, or insomnia.

Possibly because I’m so small and thin, I had the muscle weakness [and still do, to some extent], was very sensitive to light [and still am], rode an emotional roller coaster, couldn’t remember *squat* and -still- have the insomnia.

My levels are now within “acceptable range”.
When do the freaking residual side effects go away??

Screw GAIA.


33 posted on 07/24/2011 2:30:42 AM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: AZLiberty

“It scares me to think of the 48-inch fluorescent bulbs I smashed over the years because they wouldn’t fit in the trash otherwise.”

I still do it today....I’m a bit of a rebel...Then I go have a smoke.


34 posted on 07/25/2011 8:16:19 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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