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I Miss Bob Dole (Paul Begala)
Newsweek ^ | 17 Jul 2011 | Paul Begala

Posted on 07/24/2011 5:00:00 PM PDT by mandaladon

He stood up to the radical right when it shut down the government in 1995. Who will do the same today? The government shutdown of 1995, dramatic though it was for the country and damaging though it was to the GOP, looks like the height of Republican reasonableness compared with today’s brinksmanship over default.

So much is different from 1995. The economy is weaker. Experts say the economic consequences of default may far exceed a mere government shutdown. The Republicans are much more, shall we say, ideologically inspired—with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner, and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor in constant, furious competition to prove who’s more devoted to the Tea Party’s extremist position that the federal government must never, under any circumstances, increase federal revenue by so much as a penny, no matter how catastrophic the consequences. But perhaps the biggest difference is that Bob Dole isn’t in the room. After then–House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s “crybaby” rant about getting a bad seat on Air Force One (by the way, Mr. Gingrich, there are no bad seats on Air Force One) and the ensuing shutdown, it was Senate Majority Leader Dole who stopped the nonsense.

“Enough is enough,” he barked. “I don’t see any sense in what we’ve been doing.” A nation turns its lonely eyes to you, Senator Dole.

Of course, President Obama has been playing this role—even growling the very words “Enough is enough” at the end of yet another excruciating session of negotiation with intransigent Republicans on July 13. But what about on the right? From my vantage point Boehner appears to want to be our Dole. But he may be a leader without enough followers.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: bobdole; economy; electablebobdole; elections
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It was apparent to Clinton that if it came to a shutdown he would win. An inveterate consensus builder, Clinton also knew when to draw the line. “Gary Cooper–style leader-ship,” he said, was easier than cutting difficult deals. But when Gingrich gave him a chance for a High Noon moment, Clinton stood tall. He pointed to the presidential desk, made from the timbers of the HMS Resolute, and told Gingrich that if he wanted someone to sign those cuts into law, he’d have to get someone else to sit behind that desk...............Begala must've been high when he wrote this.

1 posted on 07/24/2011 5:00:04 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Yes, President Dole was one of the best presidents we ever had.

Oh, wait . . .


2 posted on 07/24/2011 5:02:09 PM PDT by Maceman (Obama: As American as nasei goreng)
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To: mandaladon

Dole = Loser


3 posted on 07/24/2011 5:03:45 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: mandaladon

Take off, great white forehead. We don’t care what you think.


4 posted on 07/24/2011 5:03:57 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: mandaladon
The totalitarian cheerleader who said "Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land. Kinda cool." Paul Begala?

That Paul Begala.

5 posted on 07/24/2011 5:04:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: mandaladon
"Yes ... tens of millions of good people in Middle America voted Republican. But if you look closely at that electoral map you see a more complex picture. You see the state where James Byrd was lynch-dragged behind a pickup truck until his body came apart—it's red. You see the state where Matthew Shepard was crucified on a split-rail fence for the crime of being gay—it's red. You see the state where right-wing extremists blew up a federal office building and murdered scores of federal employees—it's red. The state where an army private who was thought to be gay was bludgeoned to death with a baseball bat, and the state where neo-Nazi skin-heads murdered two African Americans because of their skin color, and the state where Bob Jones University spews its anti-Catholic bigotry: they're all red too."
6 posted on 07/24/2011 5:04:56 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: mandaladon

I wish Paul would SHUT UP!...


7 posted on 07/24/2011 5:05:23 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: mandaladon

Any other day, Begala would be trashing Dole. He’s a punk.


8 posted on 07/24/2011 5:05:26 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: mandaladon
Of course, President Obama has been playing this role—even growling the very words “Enough is enough” at the end of yet another excruciating session of negotiation with intransigent Republicans on July 13.

... then Obama got Republicans to agree in $800B in taxes and then pulled a fast one and upped the ante by $400B more? Did Bob Dole do that? Democrats lie.

9 posted on 07/24/2011 5:06:23 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Last Dakotan

That’s what Begala thinks of Dole too.


10 posted on 07/24/2011 5:06:36 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: mandaladon

there is no possible way I can take this guy seriously...

11 posted on 07/24/2011 5:09:00 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: mandaladon
So much is different from 1995. The economy is weaker. Experts say the economic consequences of default may far exceed a mere government shutdown.

So how is this good for Bob Dole's side? If the shutdown in '95 had produced real lasting fiscal responsibility instead of chickening out, would the economy be so weak today?

12 posted on 07/24/2011 5:09:16 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: mandaladon

We knew Bob Dole was a RINO — there is no reason to twist the knife.

If Clinton was Gary Cooper then I am John Wayne.

The Left lexicon translated into realspeak needed for this article:

* “Reaching Across the Aisle” = capitulating to radical leftist socialism
* “Statesman” = RINO
* “Consensus Builder” = bully who will not hesitate to use invented situations to blackmail Conservatives
* “brinkmanship” = Conservatives who stand for their principles ( “Statemen” who will not “reach across the aisle”)


13 posted on 07/24/2011 5:10:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: mandaladon
Right, who believes this?

Anyone, anyone?

14 posted on 07/24/2011 5:12:29 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: mandaladon

I miss Zell Miller.


15 posted on 07/24/2011 5:13:08 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: mandaladon

Wow did that ‘revenue’ bulliten stick. It must’ve come from the highest dems. ‘Don’t say taxes, always revenue’.

It makes it sound like a passive thing. They are so great at changing words to push agendas.


16 posted on 07/24/2011 5:14:33 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: mandaladon

I am beyond sick to death of people who make a living of talking (both sides of the coin, BTW), especially career insiders like Begala. How this scum sleeps at night amazes me.


17 posted on 07/24/2011 5:15:58 PM PDT by onehipdad (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Last Dakotan

yes.

remember when bob dope (r-kan) did “bipartisanship”

with the socialists and spent the social security surplus?


18 posted on 07/24/2011 5:18:56 PM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: mandaladon
Begala is a liar and deceiver.
19 posted on 07/24/2011 5:21:01 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: mandaladon

The forehead has spoken!


20 posted on 07/24/2011 5:22:10 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: mandaladon

There wasn’t a grain of original or intelligent thought in this communist bilge. Stupid just begins to describe it.


21 posted on 07/24/2011 5:22:16 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: mandaladon

Begala: The most embarrassing product of the state of Texas.


22 posted on 07/24/2011 5:25:30 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: mandaladon

Paul, you wouldn’t have said the same thing back in ‘96. Well, unless you followed it with “...but my aim is improving.”


23 posted on 07/24/2011 5:26:07 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: mandaladon

The Forehead. Writing for Newsweek, the magazine that was sold for $1. Yeah, lots of credibility there.


24 posted on 07/24/2011 5:31:52 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: mandaladon

Bob Dole was gay? Who knew?


25 posted on 07/24/2011 5:33:35 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: kittymyrib

I beg to differ kitty. I’d say the most embarrassing product of the state of Texas was LBJ.


26 posted on 07/24/2011 5:38:05 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: mandaladon

27 posted on 07/24/2011 5:39:46 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: mandaladon

Yeah, the only kind of Republican “The Forehead” likes is one who will roll over for the Democrats. Anyone else is an ‘extremist’.


28 posted on 07/24/2011 5:41:00 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
It's great to hear stories about the old timers. Like the comfort Biden got watching Roosevelt on TV during the depression . Onward into the past .
29 posted on 07/24/2011 5:44:35 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: mandaladon
He stood up to the radical right when it shut down the government in 1995....

Yeah, and he lost in 1996 because of it, the "radical right" stayed home or voted for Perot.

30 posted on 07/24/2011 5:47:14 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Last Dakotan

Dole = Loser

+1


31 posted on 07/24/2011 5:47:19 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: mandaladon

Does Begala actually think anyone reads Newsweek? He’s writing like he thinks he’ll change someones mind. The only average Americans who will read this will be sitting in a doctors waiting room reading it when it’s 3 years old.


32 posted on 07/24/2011 5:49:31 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: fantom

*snort*


33 posted on 07/24/2011 5:56:37 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“the totalitarian cheerleader”

Best description of Begala yet!

Only, I’ve always thought of him as Paul Joseph BeGoebbels.

Similar, ja?


34 posted on 07/24/2011 6:06:52 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: Maceman

Still though, I would imagine Bob and Elizabeth still get a kick when a Democrat says something nice about them. Jack French Kemp always did too.


35 posted on 07/24/2011 6:43:17 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: mandaladon

Of course the Rats miss him he was the “Tax Collector for the Welfare State”.....


36 posted on 07/24/2011 7:00:28 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Maceman

A visual representation of Bob Dole’s accomplishments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWib8GbrIlA


37 posted on 07/24/2011 7:00:43 PM PDT by donna (Imagine women who honor men enough to not tempt them.)
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To: mandaladon

Yeah Dole helped pass Medicare.


38 posted on 07/24/2011 7:02:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: mandaladon

Same reason Democrats love Senator McCain, he’s an easy opponent to defeat.


39 posted on 07/24/2011 7:03:41 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mandaladon

Paul Begala misses Bob Dole because he could walk all over him.

Game over, Forehead. You lose.


40 posted on 07/24/2011 7:48:32 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: mandaladon
Dole the man that represented a state he did not live in and could not have cared less about. What a waste, he was the rino patsy for years. Still living in Washington DC..
41 posted on 07/24/2011 8:24:09 PM PDT by org.whodat (Speaker West, name sounds good.)
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To: Last Dakotan; mandaladon; Maceman

Ah, yes, Bob Dole - the senator from Archer Daniels Midland.


42 posted on 07/24/2011 9:03:13 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: mandaladon

F you, forehead Commie.


43 posted on 07/24/2011 11:12:52 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Huh.

I guess Lawrence King, the gay 8th grader, wasn't murdered by a classmate in California, a blue state.

A terror bombing wasn't attempted at a MLK march in Washington, a blue state.

Eco-terrorists didn't engage in 17 attacks causing $23 million in damages in Oregon, a blue state.

A bombing didn't happen at a Federal Courthouse in California, a blue state.

Or a terror plot to bomb one in Washington, a blue state.

We could go on for weeks. I covered a few of the cases I recall here out West. It doesn't begin to scratch the surface of what's happened in utopian blue states.

The cases he mentioned reached the "national consciousness" because of they fit a template, the fit his the narrative of evil in red states and peaceful paradise in blue.

44 posted on 07/24/2011 11:18:16 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama until 2017. Could happen.)
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To: Tolsti2
Wow did that ‘revenue’ bulliten stick. It must’ve come from the highest dems. ‘Don’t say taxes, always revenue’.
It makes it sound like a passive thing. They are so great at changing words to push agendas.
Please don't throw me in that briar patch!

Tax rates are already so high that the revenue doesn't increase, and probably actuallydeclines, when tax rates are increased.

When the topic is revenue rather than "fairness" or "tax cuts for the 'rich'," the actual history of the revenue booms due to the Mellon, Kennedy, and Reagan tax rate cuts has to be on the table.

Tax rates are for the government just what prices are for businesses - subject to supply and demand. Look at the advertisements, and how often do you see banner headlines boasting about price cuts! Do liberals go all doey-eyed over the public spiritedness of businesses when they conduct sales campaigns?

When they talk about "revenue," what do they say when you point out that they have already overpriced their product?


45 posted on 07/25/2011 3:34:04 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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