Skip to comments.Norway killer is sane, yet utterly mad
Posted on 07/25/2011 4:34:57 AM PDT by Architeuthis Neb
Background: In Breivik's manifesto he conceives a decades-long war between "cultural conservatives" with "Justiciar Knights" as their champions, and the evil alliance of European Islamists and multiculturalists. In the midst of the terrorist-training-manual portion of his manifesto (which generally makes its Al-Qaeda counterpart look amateurish), he contemplates acquiring WMDs from Middle Eastern Islamists with the rationale that they might desire the deportation of European Muslims as a means to enhance their own power. This scheme is humdrum compared to what comes next:
"Assuming we will ever seek common ground, which is unlikely at best, the problem will be the authentication process. How can the Ummah, the enemy of our enemy, know they are really dealing with a Justiciar Knight and not a CIA or EU agent? How can it be proved that the individual seeking to become a proxy for the deployment of nuclear/radiological/biological/chemical weapon(s) isnt an undercover agent working for the US or a Western European countrys intelligence?
"The difference between an agent and a Justiciar Knight is that the latter will be willing to make a great sacrifice for the purpose of proper validation. Now what kind of sacrifice would be great enough to remove all doubt that the candidate is not a EU/US agent? A Justiciar Knight is willing to martyr himself for the cause while a EU/US agent will not be willing to sacrifice much. The entity should demand that the alleged Justiciar Knight in question surgically remove his penis and testicles and/or execute a fixed number of civilian children. While this requirement seems morbid, absurd and unreasonable, it is perhaps the most effective method of confirming the intentions of an individual. Because why would one of the sides part with a powerful weapon which worth exceeds perhaps 100 million Euros? The party would need to make 100% sure that the proxy is trustworthy. A government agent could and would never accept these terms to maintain his cover, but a true Justiciar Knight would willingly sacrifice everything for the cause, including committing smaller atrocities as long as it served the greater good of our cause. He would also be willing to part with these body parts in order to confirm his intent in this validation process. In any case, the entity would have to provide a surgical team to safely complete the operation without risk of loss of life for the Justiciar Knight.
"End note: a CIA/EU intelligence agent with a lethal/terminal disease/virus/cancer might be willing to agree to this sacrifice. Therefore, the party has to complete a full medical examination to ensure that the candidate does not suffer from any lethal, terminal condition. If the candidate suffers from a potentially lethal condition he should not be trusted as it is likely that he is an agent working for the US/EU hegemony."
Good grief. And I thought Ted Kaczinski was crazy...
You are right. There is something so wrong, so detached and inhuman in his photographs.
His is the sin of unchecked intellectual pride, untethered from all conscience, emotion or empathy.
Reminds me a bit of Charles Manson. He desired to create a race war by his murderous gang and then thought the blacks would win and would need his gang for guidance.
If he didn’t like Muslim why didnt he kill Muslims?
I am not endorsing that , just asking.
and should be put to death as slowly and as painfully as modern 21st Century technology is capable of...as an example to other aspiring demons.
time to call in some n-words with pliers and a blow torch!
Same with the bizarre and coerced tests. Remember how Ayers forced a coed to be raped by his black roommate to test her lack of bigotry? And how new WU initiates had to participate in group orgies and have sex with the same gender to prove themselves?
The Fort Dix plot to massacre a large number of soldiers at a dance would be right up this Norwegian guy's alley.
The whole thing makes no sense at all. He thinks Muslims are hurting Norway, so he goes and kills a lot of Norwegian children.
And the media pretends not to notice how nonsensical this is. They're trying to see him as indicative of a widespread political trend.
Ummm. Hello? He's crazy.
He sounds really cracked. How does someone function long enough to finally cost the lives of so many others?
I’ll tell you how!! TOLERANCE!!! In the past, when people were ‘strange’ red flags went up and steps were taken.
NOW ... well, we say people have a right to be any way they want to be, and everyone ELSE is CRACKED if we don’t TOLERATE them!!!!!!!!
All handmaiden to the will to power. Those ideas never went away. This man and others like him are actually seeking to institute a pan-European Fourth Reich.
It's not surprising to see a familiar evil rise again to oppose the abomination that is Islam.
I’m wondering why the Norwegian Police released this info so quickly to the U.S. media.
Breivik posted his Manifesto on the internet a couple of hours before he ignited the bomb.
The cops had nothing to do with making the manifesto public.
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I've always said that I would cheer if I saw someone initiate a new bid for Liberty in this country.
I cannot cheer what this Norwegian guy did, but maybe I understand it.
I pretty much agree.
This incident reminds me of the quote from Golda Meir regarding the Moslem arabs:
“When peace comes, we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.”
And the quote attributed to Orwell:
“Gentle folk sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”
This guy had no coherent philosophy, he just took pieces of this or that, and tried to make him sound real deep, there’s really no coherent philosophy behind it, much of his writings contradict each other. There was no outrage in this guy, he just killed for the sake of it, and tried to make up a bunch of excuses, to make it sound like it was politically motivated.
This guy had no coherent philosophy. . . . . .
I think you would have to live in his country to come close to understanding him, that is if he could be understood. His country is turning into something his parents couldn’t recognize. The Moslem’s are turning his country into an evil place. They make squalid ghettos of formerly nice neighborhoods, kinda of like New Orleans. They have a value system totally different than old Europe.
Some people see what is happening and try to do something about it, some go crazy. This poor fellow went crazy. It is a shame he couldn’t have used his energy for more persuasive activities.
I feel sorry for Europe. They have abandoned God and reason and will pay a very heavy price for it. I hope that in this country we can wake up and see truth before the same thing happens to us. I don’t mean the mass murders by Muslim haters, I mean the mass murders by the Muslims like what happened on 9/11.
This guy, he needs to pay for his crime, since they don’t have capital punishment in Norway he won’t. They used to draw and quarter in Europe, for him they should bring it back.
There is NOTHING that justifies what this guy did. If he had wanted to start a political movement to achieve his goals, he could have done so or joined with an existing one - he lived in Norway, for pete’s sake, not the Soviet Union or Saudi Arabia. But he didn’t publish his manifesto before his atrocities because he knew he would have been laughed off the block and maybe even some would-be followers would have been freaked out by his suggestion that they cut off their penises and testicles (and kill civilian children) in order to show their loyalty to his cause.
He was not “doing violence” on behalf of anyone’s cause or protection, and twisting those words to justify what he did is sickening.
The only way you can understand it is to realize that he was insane. He sat around and fantasized that women were looking at him longingly (because he was so well dressed!) but was obviously even too crazy to find his Eva Braun, since he saved up 2000 euros to spend on a high-class “escort” the night before he went on his killing spree.
All loonies, ranging from Charles Manson to Ted Kaczinski to the Columbine killers to anybody you want to mention, have some little narrative playing in their heads that (a) justifies them as special and above common, ordinary morals; and (b) is the grand plan that will prove their unrecognized genius.
There was NOTHING that made this man’s acts justifiable, understandable or anything remotely acceptable to a conservative or anyone else.