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Why do Jews still support Obama?
BizPac Review ^ | July 25, 2011 | Alan Bergstein

Posted on 07/25/2011 4:51:11 AM PDT by T.O.K.

I’ve been puzzled ever since Obama first started campaigning for president. Why do Jews support him? It cannot be their love for learning influenced by his great grades in any of his colleges. He has refused to disclose them. So it’s, Oh! Who cares about them? “He had to do well to become editor and chief of the Harvard Law Review,” they chirp. Actually, he was the president of the HLR, and he was appointed to that position. It couldn’t be because of his great record in the Illinois Senate. He never initiated a bill and merely voted a majority of times “present.” It couldn’t be because of his support for Israel throughout the years. He was close friends with Louis Farrakhan, Father Pfleger and Rashid Khalidi, and he attended the meetings of Palestinian radicals in Chicago.

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I am not Jewish, but I am a strong supporter of our allied country. I am forever trying to understand why being a liberal Democrat means sacrificing something as important as support for ones heritage? Why does Obama get a pass from the Jewish community?
1 posted on 07/25/2011 4:51:15 AM PDT by T.O.K.
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To: T.O.K.

The same reason that Jews in Germany went along with Hitler. The wanted to be the “good German Jew”. We remember how well that worked out.


2 posted on 07/25/2011 4:53:02 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: T.O.K.

I have a relative who hates Israel and Jews with a passion and voted for Obama. He thinks it should be called Palestine and Jews should get out. I think he got his moneys worth. I think they, the Jew haters and the Lib Jews, both view themselves as enlightened and tolerant.... Progressives. When Iran punts a Nuke into Israel, they’ll all blame Einstein.


3 posted on 07/25/2011 5:06:49 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: T.O.K.

Because Jews hate Christians, who MAY want to convert them, WAY more than they hate Muslims, who want to KILL them!


4 posted on 07/25/2011 5:11:22 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Maybe they’re just stupid that way.


5 posted on 07/25/2011 5:15:38 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: T.O.K.

Because God has not lifted the veil over their eyes...yet.


6 posted on 07/25/2011 5:17:49 AM PDT by PrepareToLeave (Arrows of the Almighty @ Amazon.com)
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To: T.O.K.

Jews are taught from the cradle that Republicans are right-wing AND that the right-wing is one step away from morphing into Naziism.

Most Jews believe this to their core...to the point that they will vote in droves for a confirmed disciple of the Jew-hating “Reverand” Wright.


7 posted on 07/25/2011 5:20:00 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Dick Vomer
I don't think Jews in Germany supported Hitler and certainly not to the extent that Jews in America support Obama (who may facilitate Hitler's work against the Jews in the Middle East btw....).

I wish someone would tell my co religionists that Liberalism is not a religion and it is not even in accord with the Jewish religion with its Leviticus saying about homosexuality and its Genesis 16:23 remarks about the Arabs.

I also think that my fellow Jews should not pat themselves over the back to much with their civil rights work. They were real meddlers back then and antagonized the races when the races in the south were finally coming together. If there is any of my tribe whose heart still bleeds for the black man, then put that... bleeding to good use by supporting war hero, Allen West or presidential candidate, Herman Cain.

p.s. As a sidebar, it wasn't for nothing that then candidate Ronald Reagan called the 1964 Civil Rights act a bad piece of legislation.

8 posted on 07/25/2011 5:20:07 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Ann Archy
Because Jews hate Christians, who MAY want to convert them, WAY more than they hate Muslims, who want to KILL them!

Your inner skinhead is showing through. Just read "Elders of Zion", eh?

For the record, Jews do not hate Christians, in fact PM Benjamin Netanyahu recently said that Israel is very thankful for the American evangelical community.

And, for the record, for 1,800 years it was "Christians" who persecuted, raped, pillaged, and murdered Jews, while Jews living in Muslim lands were largely left alone.
9 posted on 07/25/2011 5:21:20 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat
Your ANTI-CHRISTIAN is showing!

My Jewish family says these things.....BiBi is NOT part of my family....too bad, I LOVE him!!

10 posted on 07/25/2011 5:24:02 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: T.O.K.

Fear of folks like that guy in Norway which brings back memories unpleasant coupled with tikkun olam

Read Abbie Hoffmans eulogy...that rabbi said it better than I’ve ever seen it better


11 posted on 07/25/2011 5:24:41 AM PDT by wardaddy (Palin or Bachman..either with Marco....I'm often on a DroidX..in bed late...hence my spelling..sorry)
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To: T.O.K.

I really think it is “Please kill us last.” They try hard to show their most likely oppressor and murderer that they are fiercely loyal and shouldn’t be killed or oppressed too severely.


12 posted on 07/25/2011 5:28:47 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: T.O.K.

Most Jews are socialists, whether they realize it or not.


13 posted on 07/25/2011 5:31:05 AM PDT by Huck
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To: T.O.K.

I’m Catholic, but attended a coworker’s son’s Bar Mitzvah service a couple of years ago.

From the ‘pulpet’ (or whatever the Jewish equivalent is) came an endless liberal rant. Karl Rove’s name came up frequently. Even heard sympathy for the ‘plight of the Palestinians’.

With this one experience, I’m left with the impression that the liberal slant comes from the Jewish leadership


14 posted on 07/25/2011 5:35:38 AM PDT by kidd
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To: PrepareToLeave

Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. (Romans 11:25)


15 posted on 07/25/2011 5:52:45 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: "Let them eat peas!")
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To: kidd

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and — as chairman of the Central Executive Committee — head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.6


16 posted on 07/25/2011 5:54:36 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Stepan12
I don't think Jews in Germany supported Hitler and certainly not to the extent that Jews in America support Obama

What about American Jews supporting Hitler?

As far as I can tell, there are enough baby-killing, Israel hating "secular jews" to screw up the whole demographic. The decent, conservative, real Jews should be loudly repudiating the disgraceful persona of their "brethren"

I wish someone would tell my co religionists that Liberalism is not a religion

Of course it is, complete with top leaders such as algor, obama, Oprah and terd kennedy. The regular clergy are psychiatrists and psychologists. The tenets of the liberalism are based totally on junk-science faith such as global warming, environmentalism or junk-policy faith, such as Marxism.

it wasn't for nothing that then candidate Ronald Reagan called the 1964 Civil Rights act a bad piece of legislation.

And your details?

17 posted on 07/25/2011 5:56:14 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( I love the smell of burning Hope & Change in the morning.)
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To: T.O.K.

This endless fascination of the Jew vote. I would say who cares, but for some reason many people do.


18 posted on 07/25/2011 6:00:12 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: T.O.K.

....because communist support fellow communist....it is that simple...


19 posted on 07/25/2011 6:03:46 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: kidd

I’ve been trying to figure this out for years. I’ve asked Jewish people why they seem to have propensity for cozying up to the very people who will eventually annihilate them.

The only response (it was certainly not an answer) was “its a tribal thing”.

For what it’s worth here’s my take:

1. Jews have been persecuted for eons. This has led to self defense behavior which includes keeping your enemies close and going along to get along. The WWII lesson seems to be totally forgotten.

2. Jews, because they have been persecuted, tend to circle the wagons for protection. They live in imposed or self imposed ghettos or communes where it’s all for one and one for all. Very similar to Marxist communes. Thus, they’re preconditioned to accept communal Utopian ideologies. The Israeli kibbutz is organized around the Marxist ideal.

3. Jews want desperately to be thought of as socially advanced and caring people. I believe this need is what drives many Jews into being care givers—doctors, dentists, psychiatrists etc. Unfortunately this also draws them to Utopian ideologies like Marxism. One of the left’s aliases is “progressive”. It perfectly captures the Jewish mindset.

Certainly some Jews understand perfectly well the threats facing them. But they are constrained from speaking out for fear of being ostracized by the larger Jewish community. It seems the larger Jewish community only stirs itself to fight when it is on the brink of annihilation.


20 posted on 07/25/2011 6:08:46 AM PDT by dools0007world (uestion)
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To: SJackson

possible ping on the original article, written by a Jewish commentator challenging his liberal “kinsmen”. (Which should demonstrate to some of the posters here on this thread that not ALL Jewish voters support Obama.)


21 posted on 07/25/2011 6:26:52 AM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: Ann Archy

It’s an old chestnut: Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans. I’m a non-Jew, who grew up in New York City. In my experience, Jews, taken as a group (pace), are as generous, kind, grateful and thoughtful as any people on earth, if a bit clannish. Jews tend to identify with outsiders and align themselves with the party of the outsiders, the Democrats. Even if it kills them.


22 posted on 07/25/2011 6:36:19 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: T.O.K.

Not all Jews support Obama, To many its a case of who brought this schmuck to the convention when we had Hillary? Being a democrat is usually passed on from one generation to the next. It isn’t only a Jewish thing. Politics is being treated as sports team, its more like a Red Sox’s vs Yankees mind set.


23 posted on 07/25/2011 6:41:17 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fight with smear, Conservatives fight with truth. Palin & West team are 2012's dream)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I wish someone would tell my co religionists that Liberalism is not a religion

Of course it's a religion with abortion as its highest sacrament. I equate the Jews' total love of the anti-Semitic, muslim Hussein Nobama with the Negroes' love of the Democrat left who historically have embraced the Civil War south's insurrection, murdered Abraham Lincoln, created the KKK, had Negro-hating politicians such as George Wallace and Sen. Sheets Byrd in positions of power, were totally against the Civil Rights laws, and have done nothing more than destroy their entire family lifestyle and return them to abject political slavery and subservience.

So the Jews love Hussein Obambi, and the Negro-Americans are on the plantation with the Democratic Party. Go figure. And no matter how many facts you place in front of either groups, they're totally blinded by Republican hatred. I'll never figure that out.

24 posted on 07/25/2011 6:43:54 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: scooby321

After the Czarist Pogroms, can you blame them? BTW, I think you left out Lazar Kaganovich, the Wolf of the Kremlin and his relatives, one of which, his sister, was Stalin’s 3rd wife. (LOL, Now that’s what I call moving up in the Party.) Gotta love FR, you really can get well educated here compared to DU.


25 posted on 07/25/2011 6:46:41 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fight with smear, Conservatives fight with truth. Palin & West team are 2012's dream)
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To: Ann Archy
Because Jews hate Christians

I just love how you know what we think. (Actually, no I don't.)

FTR, the only Christians I have a problem with the ones who helped return Elian Gonzales to Castro, &c. But I don't even hate them. I just oppose them. I suppose it's a distinction with a difference you would have trouble understanding.

ML/NJ

26 posted on 07/25/2011 6:47:34 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: T.O.K.

Easy. Jews aren’t Jews.


27 posted on 07/25/2011 6:52:26 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: T.O.K.
I actually talked to Jackie Mason about this once when he was a guest on The Mike Gallagher show. I didn't know it at the time but Mason had once been a Rabbi. I just knew he was Jewish. I started my question by asking, "Mr. Mason, I know you're Jewish. Can you explain why so many of your fellow Jews support DemocRATS when it seems their values are values are closer to Republicans' than DemocRATS'?"

Mason said, "You know, Michael, I get this question a lot. I know whenever a Gentile starts a question by saying, 'I know you're Jewish...', he's going to ask me why so many Jews are DemocRATS."

He went on to explain that so many Jews feel guilty about their success in life. Jews seem to attract success without even trying and then when it comes they feel like they don't deserve it. So they support DemocRATS because they believe The DemocRAT Party is the friend of the poor and the downtrodden and they think they can atone for their success by supporting DemocRATS.

At the end, he went into one of his classic Jackie Mason rants, "It's craziness, Michael. It's a sickness. Gentiles can't understand it. I don't understand it." He went on for about two more minutes in that vein. It was awesome.

28 posted on 07/25/2011 6:56:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: veritas2002

Jews who are REAL Jews (actual believers) wouldn’t vote for Obambi’s socialism.


29 posted on 07/25/2011 6:56:43 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: laweeks
they're totally blinded by Republican hatred. I'll never figure that out.

Marketing.

30 posted on 07/25/2011 7:05:44 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( I love the smell of burning Hope & Change in the morning.)
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To: T.O.K.
Why do Jews still support Obama? Good question.

First of all, it may be more accurate to ask "Why do so many Jews still support Obama?".

Jews, after all, are not monolithic, as is evidenced by the number of Jewish FReepers we have around here.

The great Jewish immigration of the early 20th century brought many people to this country who were influenced by the writings of Karl Marx, at a time when the true horrors of Marxism were not yet apparent. Jews had a long history of persecution in Europe, and they came with a strong tradition of sympathy for the downtrodden which still prevails today, which has translated into support for liberal causes.

Accordingly, during the 20th century, Jews have been in the forefront of support for liberal, neo-socialist causes such as trade unionism, and later, black civil rights. And although Jews have prospered in the United States, pulling themselves by their own bootstraps from the slums of New York to a position of power and prosperity in America, for many, this liberal tradition has become an integral part of the American Jewish self-identity which still carries on today.

Secondly, Jews, like many other Americans, can be intellectually lazy when it comes to politics. Let's face it, FReepers are "politics junkies", but the vast majority of Americans are largely apolitical and only become slightly interested in politics in election years, and it's easy if your self-identity is long established by years of family and group tradition. This isn't just an American Jewish phenomenon - one can easily wonder why blue-collar Americans (you know, those gun-owning, deer hunting patriotic Christian "bitter clingers") are easily persuaded to vote like their union stewards tell them they should, or why 97% of African-Americans vote for the party that keeps them in perpetual second and third-class bondage by convincing them that they are indeed so inherently deficient that they cannot prosper on their own talents, without their liberal plantation masters to guide them and provide them with massive income redistribution,

Thirdly, there is the comforting self-delusion that liberals are morally and intellectually superior to the "others" who are not liberal. It's kind of like the college sophomore who think that they are intellectuals by default, smarter than their parents, smarter than those "Joe Lunchbucket" types who work for their living.

So why do so many Jews (and blacks, union lemmings and academics) support a leftist ideology that trades in anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, anti-Christian bigotry, anti-capitalism and a general disdain for Western Civilization? Why is it that so many American Jews are truly more paranoid about scary, gun-toting Christians who they actually fear will force them to convert their religion combined with a knee-jerk tradition of supporting the same liberals who have now taken up with their greatest true threat, genocidal Islamic imperialism?

IMHO, it's due to a long-standing tradition of allegiance to an ideology that tells them they morally and intellectually superior to those "others", a combination of intellectual laziness and the self-delusion of enlightenment, entitlement, and elitism.

31 posted on 07/25/2011 7:14:59 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Kenton
Thanks for the explanation, I have always wondered how Jews can be liberal.
32 posted on 07/25/2011 7:18:48 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: T.O.K.

Because they are neo-Bolsheviks wirh Jewish surnames.


33 posted on 07/25/2011 7:29:32 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Texas Eagle

I would love to have a conversation with Jackie Mason, I love him. We saw him at a comedy club here in Houston several years ago. The Jewish community really came out to see him, I think we were the only gentiles in the place.


34 posted on 07/25/2011 7:30:47 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: T.O.K.

do you think it is impossible for a jew to be totally void common sense?


35 posted on 07/25/2011 7:32:21 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: scooby321

Your information is known to me in general, but thank you for the extent of the detail.

It makes me wonder: recent studies have shown that a there is a genetic component for a person’s tendency towards liberal thinking. Might it be that this unseen force explains some of this otherwise inexplicable thinking and behavior in this group (and others)? Other explanations don’t do the job for me.

Of course, for a trait like this to be bred into a people, it would have to offer some survival advantage, and I don’t see much of one historically for these people.


36 posted on 07/25/2011 7:32:35 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Tzfat

Jews do hate Christians - perhaps with good reason - but they hate them. The terms “goyim” and “shiksa” are not terms of endearment.


37 posted on 07/25/2011 7:34:31 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Kenton

good points, but let me also add that the 20th century immigration was quite selective. The Rabbeim were against going to the golden medina and hence those who didn’t care came.
Hence we have a community that quickly stopped being Jewish in practice, ignored the Shoah ( FDR was more important) , but still had anti-xtian xenophobia.
Just imagine if the Pope had opposed immigration to America and the only Irish who came were the Sinead Oconner’s , or the only Italians were tje Sacco and Venzettis?
Fortunately the future of American jewry is the survivors and refugees from the 20s-50s who are the heart and soul of Torah Judaism today ( and the core of Rep voters)


38 posted on 07/25/2011 8:17:04 AM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: kabumpo
Jews do hate Christians

What a stupid statement. Some Jews/Christians is not same thing as your assertion. Hyperbole is a mark of desperation.

For the record, "goyim" is simply the Hebrew word for "nations" - found hundreds of times in the Bible.
39 posted on 07/25/2011 8:50:08 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Jews are taught from the cradle that Republicans are right-wing AND that the right-wing is one step away from morphing into Naziism.

Most Jews believe this to their core...to the point that they will vote in droves for a confirmed disciple of the Jew-hating “Reverand” Wright.


Yup.


40 posted on 07/25/2011 8:52:50 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Welcome to the USA - where every day is Backwards Day!)
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To: T.O.K.

Most people who call themselves Jews do are social liberals who not believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as He is portrayed in the Bible. If they did, they would be much more careful as to who gets their support.


41 posted on 07/25/2011 9:04:50 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (Socon-Econ)
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To: ml/nj

Why don’t you be honest and say my ENTIRE quote instead of just the snippet?? You are not a truthful person.


42 posted on 07/25/2011 9:22:35 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ml/nj

The conversation is about the 80% liberal Jewish voting block, not about freepers.


43 posted on 07/25/2011 10:26:04 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Ann Archy
Why don’t you be honest and say my ENTIRE quote instead of just the snippet?? You are not a truthful person.

Here ya go, Pal:

Because Jews hate Christians, who MAY want to convert them, WAY more than they hate Muslims, who want to KILL them!
Nice! You seem to know a lot about hate.

ML/NJ

44 posted on 07/25/2011 11:03:11 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
it wasn't for nothing that then candidate Ronald Reagan called the 1964 Civil Rights act a bad piece of legislation. And your details?

Public accomodation was/is a vicious attack on private property rights. The previous civil rights legislation -- which such people as Barry Goldwater supported -- had no such violations of private property rights.

45 posted on 07/25/2011 11:12:19 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
it wasn't for nothing that then candidate Ronald Reagan called the 1964 Civil Rights act a bad piece of legislation. And your details?

Public accomodation was/is a vicious attack on private property rights. The previous civil rights legislation -- which such people as Barry Goldwater supported -- had no such violations of private property rights.

46 posted on 07/25/2011 11:12:32 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: ansel12
The conversation is about the 80% liberal Jewish voting block, not about freepers.

The "conversation" that you have commented on here is about Jewish "hate" of Christians. Virtually none of us hate Christians.

Most of us have numerous Christian friends. The ones who do not are generally the MOST conservative; and in fact they have few liberal Jewish friends either. They live in their Orthodox communities and really know little about Christians or Christianity, and they generally know just as little about non-Orthodox Judaism and Jews. (But, overwhelmingly, they know how to vote!)

ML/NJ

47 posted on 07/25/2011 11:19:27 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
What about American Jews supporting Hitler?

No no no.... American Jews supporting OBAMA!

American Jews did not support Hitler. Perhaps the exception to that were those real Hollywood Communist Jews such as Leo Penn (Sean Penn's father), who did support Hitler if an article from Free Republic is to be believed.

Supporting Obama, if not as bad as supporting Hitler, is pretty bad in itself.

p.s. I just heard over the news that a Rabbi and a Conservative Christian group have filed suit against New York's efforts to shove gay marriage down the population's throat.

Not all Jews are mush headed neo commies.

48 posted on 07/25/2011 11:20:50 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: ml/nj

I think there is general agreement from people of all political persuasions, that the Jewish revulsion against the Republican party is largely driven by the strong support of Christians for the party, and their influence within it.


49 posted on 07/25/2011 11:24:53 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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