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Less Than Half Of Americans Know Romney's A Mormon
Examiner ^ | 07/25/11 | Khelil Bouarrouj

Posted on 07/25/2011 4:25:41 PM PDT by freespirited

If the Mitt Romney campaign has worries that the candidate's Mormon faith may be an insurmountable obstacle to the White House, they may take solace from one recent survey: According to the Public Religion Research Institute and Religion News Service, only 40% of Americans identify Romney as a Mormon.

46% claim they do not know the candidate's faith and 10% figured him to be a Protestant or Catholic. Incidentally these numbers mirror those of the man Romney is seeking to unseat, President Barack Obama. Four in ten Americans do not know the president's faith, 18% believe he is a Muslim and only a quarter correctly listed him as a Protestant.

Many Americans tell pollsters they are uncomfortable with a Mormon candidate. A recent Quinnipac poll found that while a majority of 60% of Americans are either entirely or somewhat comfortable with a Mormon president, this figure is less than those accepting of a Catholic of Jewish head of state, 83% and 80% respectively. 54% of African Americans and roughly 40% of women are uncomfortable with a Mormon president. The latter may be due to the church's history of excluding blacks from the priesthood and the past doctrine of polygamy.* The church has long disavowed polygamy and the exclusion of blacks from the priesthood was lifted in 1976.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; candidatereligion; harryreid; inman; mormon; obamaonreligion; romney; themoromonquestion
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His religion does not matter to me. It's his ever shifting positions that make me cringe.
1 posted on 07/25/2011 4:25:44 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited
"Less Than Half Of Americans Know Romney's A Moron"

Remarkable. I've known that about Slick Willard a long time.

2 posted on 07/25/2011 4:27:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: freespirited

I can’t WAIT to not vote for that RINO hair-helmet..!


3 posted on 07/25/2011 4:27:44 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: freespirited

I doubt he’s really a Mormon. He’s no more a Mormon than he is a conservative.


4 posted on 07/25/2011 4:28:43 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: freespirited
Less Than Half Of Americans Know Romney's A Mormon

But more than half of Freepers know that he's a good, solid democrat who's gumming up our party.

5 posted on 07/25/2011 4:29:23 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: freespirited

Same here.
Mitt’s religion is about 3% of his total problem for me.
Socialized medicine blows.


6 posted on 07/25/2011 4:29:31 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: freespirited

Absolutely. I don’t care about Mormonism, but I do care about him being a RINO


7 posted on 07/25/2011 4:29:51 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: freespirited

It is a miracle that half of Americans can breathe.


8 posted on 07/25/2011 4:30:28 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: freespirited
In the new releases department:

Mitt Romney's Deception:


9 posted on 07/25/2011 4:32:46 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Brilliant

I’m far more concerned with his liberalism anyway.


10 posted on 07/25/2011 4:32:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: freespirited

Romney believes in man made global warming.

He originated RomneyCare, the father of ObamaCare.

Romney supported gay rights.

He supported the GM/Dodge bailout.

He supported the bank bailout.

He was for abortion until he ran for president.

NO THANKS.


11 posted on 07/25/2011 4:33:06 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: freespirited

Romney’s answers to Planned Parenthood:

1. Do you support the substance in the Supreme Court decision, Roe vs. Wade? YES

2. Do you support state funding of abortion services through Medicaid for low-income women? YES


12 posted on 07/25/2011 4:34:33 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: freespirited

Mittens is an anchor baby.

The Romney lawyers investigated this question in the 1960s, when Mitt Romney’s father, Governor George Romney of Michigan, was vying for the Republican presidential nomination. George Romney had been born in a Mormon colony in Chihuahua, Mexico, as his grandfather moved there with his wives in the 1880s after polygamy was outlawed in the U.S.

While some opponents nicknamed him “Chihuahua George,” his suitability for the highest office because of his birth was never seriously challenged. The reason his campaign faltered was because of his shift in position on the Vietnam War: He went from being a supporter to opposing it, infamously claiming to have been “brainwashed” by military officials. After that Richard Nixon’s lead in the polls more than doubled.

Article II of the U.S. Constitution states that “No person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the Office of President,” and so the question is: Does natural born citizen mean born a citizen or born in the U.S.? The Founding Fathers were of course aware of both jus soli (birthright citizenship) and jus sanguinis (citizenship through parentage), but deliberately wrote “natural born” rather than something like “born on U.S. soil,” arguably to include children born to U.S parents outside the country.

This makes sense now doesnt it Huh?

Romney to Trump: Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate - Politics .....
Apr 12, 2011 ... Romney to Trump: Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth CertificateBy Daniel Freedman ...

When the polygamist Mormons fled to Mexico rather than conform to American law, one of the conditions for their relocation was the total loss of their American citizenship. (i.e. they were kicked out, never to return.)

Any who wanted to return to America had to petition and take the citizenship tests and swear in... to become citizens again.

The Romneys sneaked back in. They did not petition to become citizens of America.

Mittens is an anchor baby.

White skin and oodles of green money buy acceptance, but they don’t buy honor. However, what does honor matter to a politician?


13 posted on 07/25/2011 4:35:08 PM PDT by bodfish ((Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity.))
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To: gaijin

14 posted on 07/25/2011 4:37:19 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: freespirited

Yes, but 100% of Freepers know he’s a MORON!


15 posted on 07/25/2011 4:37:44 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: freespirited

>>Less Than Half Of Americans Know Romney’s A Mormon<<

Yeah, but plenty of us know he’s a RINO.


16 posted on 07/25/2011 4:37:47 PM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: freespirited

About the same number of people who don’t know obama is a muslim and a kenyan.


17 posted on 07/25/2011 4:38:34 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: laweeks

18 posted on 07/25/2011 4:39:20 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: bodfish
My great grandfather had to renounce his loyalties, declare his intent to become a citizen, swear that he wasn't an anarchist or a polygamist.

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19 posted on 07/25/2011 4:40:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: freespirited
Less Than Half Of Americans Know Romney's A Mormon

That's funny, because I bet double that don't know hussein is a muzzie; poor infidels.

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20 posted on 07/25/2011 4:40:16 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: freespirited

If Romney gets the nomination his Mormon religion will become a big issue after he gets the nomination and it is too late. There will be billions of dollars spent on negative advertising. A lot of people, especially in the south, will not vote for a Mormon. They will vote third party. 0bama and the media are waiting to spring thier trap.


21 posted on 07/25/2011 4:40:16 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: freespirited

... meaning more than half don’t care. Drop it.


22 posted on 07/25/2011 4:41:03 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: cripplecreek

1912

It was also 1912 that the illegal alien Romneys snuck across the border into our country...

They didnt sign any promise that they were not polygamists..


23 posted on 07/25/2011 4:46:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

True enough, if less than half know, you can bet that a fair number of those don’t care.


24 posted on 07/25/2011 4:47:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

25 posted on 07/25/2011 4:49:54 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: freespirited

How many know that Harry Reid is also a mormon...as well as being dinghy.


26 posted on 07/25/2011 4:50:30 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: freespirited

They’ll all know if he runs against The Bamster.


27 posted on 07/25/2011 4:50:41 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Obamania in 2012)
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To: luvbach1

Half of Americans don’t know what a Mormom IS! Unfortunately, I’m serious!


28 posted on 07/25/2011 5:00:54 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: freespirited

Romney’s a Mormon? Seriesly?? This is HUGH!!!


29 posted on 07/25/2011 5:16:34 PM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: freespirited; 3D-JOY; 50mm; AGreatPer; Bockscar; calcowgirl; cindy-true-supporter; concretebob; ...
I'm not a moron. I'm a flying a-hole.

29½ posted on 07/25/2011 8:02:08 PM EDT by Myth Romney (A Scout is: Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Gay, Courteous, Kind, Gay, Cheerful, Thrifty, Gay, Clean, and Gay.)

To: Myth Romney; 3D-Joy; 50mm; AGreatPer; Bockscar; calcowgirl; cindyTrueSupporter; concretebob; ...
He said Mormon - not moron, you moron!

If you want off my ping list get over it!


30 posted on 07/25/2011 5:18:46 PM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: freespirited

Most church going black voters mistakenly think Barak Obama believes in the divinity of Jesus Christ.


31 posted on 07/25/2011 5:33:45 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The liberal press applauded when the NY Times hacked Newt Gingrich's phone calls.)
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To: freespirited

Less than 50% of Americans know Mitt is alive.


32 posted on 07/25/2011 5:37:49 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: freespirited

Romney is the best liberal democrat in the race so far.


33 posted on 07/25/2011 6:03:13 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: cripplecreek

cripple,

Romney’s great-grandfather, Miles Park Romney, married his fifth wife in 1897. That was more than six years after Mormon leaders banned polygamy and more than three decades after a federal law barred the practice.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254362,00.html#ixzz1TATNRBKH

Your post is a sham and a farce. In fact, its a farce of a sham.

Mittens IS an anchor Baby!


34 posted on 07/25/2011 6:05:43 PM PDT by bodfish ((Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity.))
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To: bodfish
Your post is a sham and a farce. In fact, its a farce of a sham.

And what did I say to deserve that?
35 posted on 07/25/2011 6:11:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: colorcountry

LOL


36 posted on 07/25/2011 6:13:10 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: bodfish; cripplecreek

cripplecreek was I think just showing hoew his own monogamous ancestor had to sign and swear that he was not a polygamist before he could enter the US the same year that the polygamist Romney and his family snuck into the country under the radar and without that same necessary paperwork....

George Romney, Willie Mitty’s dad, was one of those children, and the first generation of Romneys for generations who appears to have had no extra wives like his own dad, grandfather and great grandfather


37 posted on 07/25/2011 6:20:52 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I just thought it was interesting that such things were even asked back then. My great grandfather was somewhere between 9 and 13 at that time anyway.

We’ve been digging around in the family tree and finding old documents in Michigan and Wisconsin. I discovered that my grandfather began his life as a Catholic but became a Methodist during WWII. Nobody in the family ever talked about it so I assumed he had always been Methodist.


38 posted on 07/25/2011 6:31:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Tennessee Nana; colorcountry

Say it ain’t so!


39 posted on 07/25/2011 6:46:50 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58; colorcountry

actually I was LOL at # 29 1/2

:)


40 posted on 07/25/2011 6:58:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: freespirited

And it does matter to me. I know too much about Mormonism to ever trust one in office.


41 posted on 07/25/2011 7:03:50 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Brilliant; Colofornian; greyfoxx39; aMorePerfectUnion; SZonian

I doubt he’s really a Mormon. He’s no more a Mormon than he is a conservative.

- - - - -
He’s a Mormon all right, a true believing, faithful, ‘active’, tithe paying temple attending Mormon. I’ve been there and you don’t go through all the BS you have to to get a Temple Recommend and keep it (which Romney has) if you don’t really believe it.


42 posted on 07/25/2011 7:15:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: freespirited
Less Than Half Of Americans Know Romney's A Mormon

Well; the registered Dems are spoken for...

43 posted on 07/25/2011 7:18:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
I’ve been there and you don’t go through all the BS you have to to get a Temple Recommend and keep it (which Romney has) if you don’t really believe it.

I'll bet that MORE than half of FREEPERs do not know what questions are asked on a Temple Recommend...


 
 
 
Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

       Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
       Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
 
 
 

44 posted on 07/25/2011 7:25:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: freespirited

More than half the voters voted for Obama, so I’m not surprised to hear that the title of this article is true, ie, less than half of Americans have a clue.


45 posted on 07/25/2011 7:29:31 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: cumbo78

Sadly true. Or what they really believe. I wasn’t told 80% of their beliefs until after I joined and I studied it for over a year. They only gave me the basics.


46 posted on 07/25/2011 7:37:04 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Tennessee Nana; bodfish; cripplecreek

Knowing the LDS as I do, I wouldn’t be surprised if they ‘lied for the Lord’ and signed they didn’t believe in polygamy to get into this country.

FWIW, the LDS still BELIEVE in Polygamy, they just believe they cannot practice it at the moment, but the time will come when it is restored.


47 posted on 07/25/2011 7:41:51 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
FWIW, the LDS still BELIEVE in Polygamy, they just believe they cannot practice it at the moment, but the time will come when it is restored.

RESTORED?

I've never been LDS; but from what I've STUDIED of their writings, I cannot find that it was EVER taken AWAY!! (The Flds folks seem to know this.)

If any MORMONs have any LATER "Words of GOD" to add to THIS; now would be a GOOD time to post them!!


 
 
 
OFFICIAL DECLARATION—1

To Whom It May Concern:

Press dispatches having been sent for political purposes, from Salt Lake City, which have been widely published, to the effect that the Utah Commission, in their recent report to the Secretary of the Interior, allege that plural marriages are still being solemnized and that forty or more such marriages have been contracted in Utah since last June or during the past year, also that in public discourses the leaders of the Church have taught, encouraged and urged the continuance of the practice of polygamy

I, therefore, as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, do hereby, in the most solemn manner, declare that these charges are false. We are not teaching polygamy or plural marriage, nor permitting any person to enter into its practice, and I deny that either forty or any other number of plural marriages have during that period been solemnized in our Temples or in any other place in the Territory.

One case has been reported, in which the parties allege that the marriage was performed in the Endowment House, in Salt Lake City, in the Spring of 1889, but I have not been able to learn who performed the ceremony; whatever was done in this matter was without my knowledge. In consequence of this alleged occurrence the Endowment House was, by my instructions, taken down without delay.

Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriages, which laws have been pronounced constitutional by the court of last resort, I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws, and to use my influence with the members of the Church over which I preside to have them do likewise.

There is nothing in my teachings to the Church or in those of my associates, during the time specified, which can be reasonably construed to inculcate or encourage polygamy; and when any Elder of the Church has used language which appeared to convey any such teaching, he has been promptly reproved. And I now publicly declare that my advice to the Latter-day Saints is to refrain from contracting any marriage forbidden by the law of the land.

WILFORD WOODRUFF
President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 




President Lorenzo Snow offered the following:

“I move that, recognizing Wilford Woodruff as the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the only man on the earth at the present time who holds the keys of the sealing ordinances, we consider him fully authorized by virtue of his position to issue the Manifesto which has been read in our hearing, and which is dated September 24th, 1890, and that as a Church in General Conference assembled, we accept his declaration concerning plural marriages as authoritative and binding.”

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous.

Salt Lake City, Utah, October 6, 1890.







 

EXCERPTS FROM THREE ADDRESSES BY
PRESIDENT WILFORD WOODRUFF
REGARDING THE MANIFESTO

The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty. (Sixty-first Semiannual General Conference of the Church, Monday, October 6, 1890, Salt Lake City, Utah. Reported in Deseret Evening News, October 11, 1890, p. 2.)

It matters not who lives or who dies, or who is called to lead this Church, they have got to lead it by the inspiration of Almighty God. If they do not do it that way, they cannot do it at all. . . .

I have had some revelations of late, and very important ones to me, and I will tell you what the Lord has said to me. Let me bring your minds to what is termed the manifesto. . . .

The Lord has told me to ask the Latter-day Saints a question, and He also told me that if they would listen to what I said to them and answer the question put to them, by the Spirit and power of God, they would all answer alike, and they would all believe alike with regard to this matter.

The question is this: Which is the wisest course for the Latter-day Saints to pursue—to continue to attempt to practice plural marriage, with the laws of the nation against it and the opposition of sixty millions of people, and at the cost of the confiscation and loss of all the Temples, and the stopping of all the ordinances therein, both for the living and the dead, and the imprisonment of the First Presidency and Twelve and the heads of families in the Church, and the confiscation of personal property of the people (all of which of themselves would stop the practice); or, after doing and suffering what we have through our adherence to this principle to cease the practice and submit to the law, and through doing so leave the Prophets, Apostles and fathers at home, so that they can instruct the people and attend to the duties of the Church, and also leave the Temples in the hands of the Saints, so that they can attend to the ordinances of the Gospel, both for the living and the dead?

The Lord showed me by vision and revelation exactly what would take place
if we did not stop this practice. If we had not stopped it, you would have had no use for . . . any of the men in this temple at Logan; for all ordinances would be stopped throughout the land of Zion. Confusion would reign throughout Israel, and many men would be made prisoners. This trouble would have come upon the whole Church, and we should have been compelled to stop the practice. Now, the question is, whether it should be stopped in this manner, or in the way the Lord has manifested to us, and leave our Prophets and Apostles and fathers free men, and the temples in the hands of the people, so that the dead may be redeemed. A large number has already been delivered from the prison house in the spirit world by this people, and shall the work go on or stop? This is the question I lay before the Latter-day Saints. You have to judge for yourselves. I want you to answer it for yourselves. I shall not answer it; but I say to you that that is exactly the condition we as a people would have been in had we not taken the course we have.

. . . I saw exactly what would come to pass if there was not something done. I have had this spirit upon me for a long time. But I want to say this: I should have let all the temples go out of our hands; I should have gone to prison myself, and let every other man go there, had not the God of heaven commanded me to do what I did do; and when the hour came that I was commanded to do that, it was all clear to me. I went before the Lord, and I wrote what the Lord told me to write. . . .

I leave this with you, for you to contemplate and consider. The Lord is at work with us.
(Cache Stake Conference, Logan, Utah, Sunday, November 1, 1891. Reported in Deseret Weekly, November 14, 1891.)
 
 
 

Now I will tell you what was manifested to me and what the Son of God performed in this thing. . . . All these things would have come to pass, as God Almighty lives, had not that Manifesto been given. Therefore, the Son of God felt disposed to have that thing presented to the Church and to the world for purposes in his own mind. The Lord had decreed the establishment of Zion. He had decreed the finishing of this temple. He had decreed that the salvation of the living and the dead should be given in these valleys of the mountains. And Almighty God decreed that the Devil should not thwart it. If you can understand that, that is a key to it.
 
(From a discourse at the sixth session of the dedication of the Salt Lake Temple, April 1893. Typescript of Dedicatory Services, Archives, Church Historical Department, Salt Lake City, Utah.)
 

 
 
 
 
What kind of  'Leadership' is THIS???
 
compared to...
 
 
 
 
Hebrews 11:35-40
 35.  Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.
 36.  Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison.
 37.  They were stoned ; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated--
 38.  the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground. 
 
 
or compared to...
 

Acts 4:19.  But Peter and John replied, "Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God's sight to obey you rather than God.
 


 
So much for an 'Everlasting Covenant' that thundered out of Heaven!!!
 
Well; it DID last about 47 years!
 



 
Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriage...
I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws..."

~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President

 


48 posted on 07/26/2011 4:38:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: cripplecreek; colorcountry
We’ve been digging around in the family tree and finding old documents in Michigan and Wisconsin. I discovered that my grandfather began his life as a Catholic but became a Methodist during WWII. Nobody in the family ever talked about it so I assumed he had always been Methodist.

Well, all those ancestors are probably mormon now.

“We have been authorized to perform baptisms vicariously so that when they hear the gospel preached and desire to accept it, that essential ordinance will have been performed. They need not ask for any exemption from that essential ordinance. Indeed, the Lord Himself was not exempted from it.

Here and now then, we move to accomplish the work to which we are assigned. We are busily engaged in that kind of baptism. We gather the records of our kindred dead, indeed, the records of the entire human family; and in sacred temples in baptismal fonts designed as those were anciently, we perform these sacred ordinances.

“Strange,” one may say. It is passing strange. It is transcendent and supernal. The very nature of the work testifies that He is our Lord, that baptism is essential, that He taught the truth.

And so the question may be asked, “You mean you are out to provide baptism for all who have ever lived?”

And the answer is simply, “Yes.” For we have been commanded to do so.

The Redemtion of the Dead


49 posted on 07/26/2011 9:46:24 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Hell more than half of Americans...can’t tell you one of their States Senators.


50 posted on 07/26/2011 10:48:09 AM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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