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Breivik's father: I wish my son killed himself
CBS News ^ | July 22nd 2011 | David Morgan

Posted on 07/25/2011 4:46:29 PM PDT by KantianBurke

The father of Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian who confessed to last Friday's twin terror attacks, said he was ashamed and disgusted by his son's acts and wished he had committed suicide. Jens David Breivik, a former diplomat who lives in retirement in the south of France, said he first learned of his son's attacks from media websites.

"I couldn't believe my eyes. It was totally paralyzing and I couldn't really understand it," he said.

Breivik's parents divorced in 1980, and his father lived in London while he and his mother lived in Oslo.

In an interview with the Swedish tabloid Expressen, Breivik said he and his son have had virtually no contact with one another since 1995 (when Anders was 16), except for a "bland" phone call about 10 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: jensbreivik; jensdavidbreivik; murderer; norway; oslo
I wish he had raised his kid properly.
1 posted on 07/25/2011 4:46:38 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke

Even so, the guilt must be agony.


2 posted on 07/25/2011 4:48:18 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: KantianBurke

talk about having daddy issues.


3 posted on 07/25/2011 4:48:18 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: KantianBurke
I wish he had raised his kid properly.

Maybe it would have helped; maybe not. Perhaps the perp is truly insane. For some people, nature trumps nurture, no matter what is done.

4 posted on 07/25/2011 4:48:36 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: KantianBurke
I wish he had raised his kid properly.

Maybe it would have helped; maybe not. Perhaps the perp is truly insane. For some people, nature trumps nurture, no matter what is done.

5 posted on 07/25/2011 4:48:44 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: KantianBurke

And make himself a martyr to his various cells he has created still operating in the libtardland of Norway? Yeah, that would work.... /s =.=


6 posted on 07/25/2011 4:49:25 PM PDT by cranked
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To: KantianBurke

Maybe he should have spent more time with his son being a Dad.

I, too, wish he had killed himself.


7 posted on 07/25/2011 4:49:38 PM PDT by beandog
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Insane or insanity is not an issue here nor is it to be looked to as an excuse. Breivik is far from being clinically insane. =.=


8 posted on 07/25/2011 4:50:47 PM PDT by cranked
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To: KantianBurke

What a putrid and utterly european thing to say. Nice job, pops!

Absentee-father-retired-to-France-to-drink-wine-with-the-cheese-eaters bump.


9 posted on 07/25/2011 4:52:51 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: cranked
Insane or insanity is not an issue here nor is it to be looked to as an excuse. Breivik is far from being clinically insane.

Judicially speaking, I agree with you. What I was saying is that in my opinion, there are some people who are going to be psychos regardless of their upbringing. This guy is fryable. He knows what he's doing--but I suspect he would have been a ticking time bomb regardless of how well his parents got along, or what type of home they made for him.

10 posted on 07/25/2011 4:53:48 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

True but the Dad essentially wrote his son off from day one. That’s a sure fire recipe for trouble for younger men. Larry Elder pointed out that the violence and dysfunctionalty of the inner city was a direct result of the lack of fathers. “Dads matter.”


11 posted on 07/25/2011 4:54:43 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke
Jens David Breivik, a former diplomat who lives in retirement in the south of France

Kinda' sounds like a snotty elitist, don't he?
12 posted on 07/25/2011 4:55:24 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: KantianBurke

What kind of a father says that about a son, even a son like this? He hadn’t had any contact with his son since he was about 15 or 16, refusing to see him and giving the excuse of his health. At age 21 or 22 he meets up with an older man in England (that Scotland Yard is still looking to identify) who calls him a ‘perfect knight’. Years of planning later...


13 posted on 07/25/2011 4:57:04 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: KantianBurke
Norway doesn't have the death penalty.

Breivik faces 21 years in prison for the terrorism charges, but he has told authorities he never expects to be released. While 21 years is the stiffest sentence a Norwegian judge can hand down, a special sentence can be given to prisoners deemed a danger to society who are locked up for 20-year sentences that can be renewed indefinitely.

14 posted on 07/25/2011 5:02:12 PM PDT by hercuroc
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To: KantianBurke
I will say that I have known several offspring over the years from very good families that went bad. ALL had siblings that turned out great. There such a thing as bad seed.
15 posted on 07/25/2011 5:04:48 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: KantianBurke

This is just a small family disagreement as far as the ancient Norse tradition is concerned.


16 posted on 07/25/2011 5:06:04 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: KantianBurke

It says ol’ Dad was a diplomat in an earlier time. Can we assume he’d been a Norsky diplomat? That would mean that Dad was part of, or helped create, the un-assimilated immigrant problem that Mom’s basement boy was PO’d about. With only 5 million peeple there can’t be that many diplomats at any one time. I’m gonna take a leap and guess that absentee Dad was busy creating the circumstance that basement Boy got jerked about-——but I’m just natchurly suspicious.


17 posted on 07/25/2011 5:06:44 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: KantianBurke
Do you know the story of the elephants and the rhinos?

http://www.rhinoresourcecenter.com/pdf_files/125/1253211728.pdf

18 posted on 07/25/2011 5:08:06 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: KantianBurke

Breivik:

Q Do you party a lot and what about a girlfriend/wife?

A I have partied a lot since I was 16 and I still do. The path of the Justiciar Knight isn’t really compatible with that of person seeking to establish a family. I have traditionally been too ambitious and self centered to focus on a serious long term relationship.

Q Tell us about your experiences growing up in the urban multicultural streets of Oslo.

A Since I was 12 years old I was into the hip-hop movement. For several years I was one of the most notable “hip-hop’ers” from Oslo’s West side.... I was the most active tagger [graffiti artist] in Oslo ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8661003/Norway-killer-Anders-Behring-Breiviks-father-says-he-should-have-turned-gun-on-himself.html


19 posted on 07/25/2011 5:09:09 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: cherokee1

Both parents were members or supporters of the political party he targeted. The majority of the people he targeted were about the same age he was when his father last saw him.


20 posted on 07/25/2011 5:11:05 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: KantianBurke

Mr Breivik said that he had not seen his son for 15 years but added: “I will never have any more contact with him.”

The pair were once close. After Mr Breivik’s divorce from Anders’s mother, Wenche, when Anders was a toddler, he sought custody of his son but was unsuccessful.

In his 1,500 page manifesto Anders Breivik speaks about staying with his father and his new wife, Tore, in Paris, where they lived by then, and at a holiday home in Normandy.

But he said that he had lost contact when he was 15 claiming that his father had “isolated himself” from the family and had disapproved of his son’s obsession with graffiti.

Speaking earlier ‘I don’t feel like his father,’ said Jens Breivik, 76, from his isolated villa in rural France, where he and his wife were both under armed guard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8661003/Norway-killer-Anders-Behring-Breiviks-father-says-he-should-have-turned-gun-on-himself.html


21 posted on 07/25/2011 5:11:21 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: mad_as_he$$
There such a thing as bad seed.

That reminds me of an Unsolved Mystery episode I saw.

A couple adopted a baby when he was a couple months old and who's dad was a drug addict and in prison for murder.

They gave the kid all the love they could but he left at about 18 and came back like a year later and killed them.

22 posted on 07/25/2011 5:11:21 PM PDT by hercuroc
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To: kcvl

“Since I was 12 years old I was into the hip-hop movement. For several years I was one of the most notable “hip-hop’ers” from Oslo’s West side”

Sounds very much like John Walker’s start. Come to think of it, John Walker’s dad was also AWOL though not due to diplomatic jobs - Walker’s dad was more of a bath house patron if you get my drift.


23 posted on 07/25/2011 5:13:59 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: hercuroc

Yikes!!!


24 posted on 07/25/2011 5:14:40 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: OldNewYork
-- What kind of a father says that about a son, even a son like this? --

A self-absorbed athiest.

25 posted on 07/25/2011 5:18:07 PM PDT by Cboldt
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I little premature on your wish there, dad. The case is still open and your son has not yet been convicted.


26 posted on 07/25/2011 5:18:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: KantianBurke
English as a foreign language at CBS. Correct sentence, since it is a paraphrase and not a direct quote: " I wish my son had killed himself."
27 posted on 07/25/2011 5:20:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: KantianBurke
Perp's parents both had children from prior relationships when they married and then divorced when perp was an infant. The father (a diplomat) tried to get custody, but lost him to his mother. Perp lived with his mother or next door to her, at least until recently. Father moved to France and remarried. Perp did visit him regularly and got along well with that stepmother (who worked for the government department dealing with applications from immigrants) until father split with her over a decade ago. No contact with father since. Father's current wife has never even met him. Thus perp was brought up in what passes for liberal elite "family" life. Perp lost £227k in a stock market crash at age 19 in 1997. How does a 19 year old get to have that much in the stock market to lose? By being the child of the liberal elite. He had major plastic surgery done at about that time. He thinks he's hot stuff for the girls, but has little to show for it. He goes out of his way to stress the "need" to kill girls, even pretty ones. His top intended target on the island was Norway's former FEMALE PM Gro Harlem Brundtland. His timing was off and he missed her. A former friend said perp became mad at muslims after losing a girl to a Pakistani muslim.

I've downloaded but haven't had time to read his manifesto. The above is 3rd hand from reading a bunch of articles in mainly the UK press. It sure looks like we're dealing with a narcissistic egotist who's had his false pride stepped on too many times and decided to strike back. None of his failures could possibly HIS fault. Mommy and Daddy ultimately failed to get him what he wanted so what they stood for to him must be bad. Girls rejected him so they must die. There's nothing Christian here. He's just rejecting the cultures he sees as rejecting his superior self and trying to glom on to whatever options he thinks remain and may accept him.

I think a key clue is his failure to commit suicide, unlike most mass shooters, when the Keystone SWAT finally got there. He was way too self-important to do that; instead he wants to milk this for all the notoriety he can get and be the star of Norway's cushy penal system. The worst thing we could do to him (as Norway's system bars the more creative choices of his hero Vlad the Impaler) would be to shun him. As Boris Johnson, the Conservative Mayor of London, writes in today's UK Telegraph "We should spend less time thinking about him, and much more on the victims and their families." I'd add the press should seek out old pre-plastic surgery pictures of the perp and use them in place of his current ones when pictures are required. The uglier the better!

The scary thing about this is how far it shows a narcissistic egotist will go. We've got one in position to do much worse. Will Biden pull the 25th Amendment trigger for us if necessary?

28 posted on 07/25/2011 5:52:32 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks KantianBurke.
Jens David Breivik, a former diplomat who lives in retirement in the south of France, said he first learned of his son's attacks from media websites.
Sounds like a real close relationship.


29 posted on 07/25/2011 6:03:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Over at another forum (Belmont Club) an interesting observation was made: the attack on the island was a profoundly political act. These weren't random young people -- these were the children of Norway's politically connected who were there. It would be like somebody shooting up DC's Sidwell Friends School.
30 posted on 07/25/2011 6:14:55 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

The south of France is a popular and cheap (relative to euro norms) place to retire.


31 posted on 07/25/2011 6:34:26 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Since this killer is the son of two elites of the same party as this kids on the island... was he also sent to the camp on this island when he was younger?


32 posted on 07/25/2011 7:18:12 PM PDT by piasa
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Good question. I’m not certain, but suspect not. The camp has been going on for years I gather. His parents were civil servants who supported the liberal party, but weren’t active in it and I’d guess the camp was for those who were active. His revolt started a decade or more ago, aged a bit older than most of his victims, and he then became somewhat active in the youth groups of the Progress Party, one of Norway’s then rising conservative party (it made it to #2, but I gather is now #3 behind the “Conservative Party.) Youth groups with political ties must be common in Norway as articles throw around acronyms expecting readers to know them, but I don’t know enough Norwegian politics to understand them.


33 posted on 07/25/2011 7:41:22 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: traderrob6

I always include the family members of the perp when I pray for victims. It must be horrifying to have a child turn rabid like this.


34 posted on 07/25/2011 9:32:51 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: ecomcon

They would probably call you a Puritan while looking down their noses at you. Marriage and responsibility is so passe.


35 posted on 07/27/2011 1:36:43 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: kcvl

Don’t they have their OWN culture?


36 posted on 07/27/2011 1:41:19 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: KantianBurke

Sons can be so disappointing sometimes, can’t they?


37 posted on 07/27/2011 1:47:15 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: JohnBovenmyer

This must really be a jolt to the Euro-left elite since this is one or their very own who has turned on them? How could someone who was brought up in the busom of everything that was politically correct and so enlightened end up becoming an extreme right wing killer?


38 posted on 07/27/2011 1:53:27 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
I've downloaded but haven't had time to read his manifesto. The above is 3rd hand from reading a bunch of articles in mainly the UK press. It sure looks like we're dealing with a narcissistic egotist who's had his false pride stepped on too many times and decided to strike back.

That's because you haven't bothered to read his manifesto.

You'd be embarrassed if you knew how far off your "analysis" were, but that's to be expected given your sources.

39 posted on 07/27/2011 1:59:15 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: PapaBear3625

“somebody shooting up xxxxxxxxx”

You just showed up on a screen somewhere with that phrase.


40 posted on 07/27/2011 2:04:43 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: KantianBurke

KEEP in touch with your KIDS.


41 posted on 07/27/2011 3:06:12 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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