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Behring Breivik had extensive links to English Defence League
Telegraph (UK) ^ | July 25, 2011 | Mark Hughes, and Gordon Rayner

Posted on 07/25/2011 4:48:49 PM PDT by Scanian

Breivik was understood to have met leaders of the EDL in March last year when he came to London for the visit of Geert Wilders, the Dutch Right-wing politician. Daryl Hobson, who organises EDL demonstrations, said Breivik, who told police there were “two more cells” ready to follow him, had met members of the group.

Another senior member of the EDL said Breivik had been in regular contact with its members via Facebook, and had a “hypnotic” effect on them.

Scotland Yard was investigating Breivik’s claims that he began his deadly “crusade” after being recruited to a secret society in London, and that he was guided by an English “mentor”. David Cameron, who was being kept updated on developments, said Breivik’s claims were being taken “extremely seriously”.

Breivik wrote of having strong links with the EDL, saying he had met its leaders and had 600 EDL members as Facebook friends.

Mr Hobson said in an online posting that: “He had about 150 EDL on his list … bar one or two doubt the rest of us ever met him, altho [sic] he did come over for one of our demo [sic] in 2010 … but what he did was wrong. RIP to all who died as a result of his actions.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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Breivik may have been ingratiating himself with the EDL but those guys have nothing to do with fascism and even burn Nazi flags at rallies. They are opposed to Muslim immigration but that in no way equates to promoting violence and murder.
1 posted on 07/25/2011 4:48:52 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

I’m an EDL fan on Facebook. I agree with you 100%.


2 posted on 07/25/2011 4:52:01 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Scanian
The international left in Europe is really gonna clean house after this.

Expect criminalization of any talk not in line with the multiculturalists prattle. They were dangerously close to that anyway.

3 posted on 07/25/2011 4:53:00 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Scanian
The killer in Norway was a fan of Dexter . In the second season in Episode # 19 , (That Night, a Forest Grew) Dexter makes a manifesto that is cut and pasted together from a bunch of odd sources solely to make detectives waste their time and come to the wrong conclusions. I mention this because it is now known sections of the Unibomber writings were lifted with minor changes. Was this a episode a source of inspiration to the Norway killer?

Another odd fact. On June 24 Norway banned Sharia courts. Why would the killer massacre so many children of the elite when the country was already heading the way he wanted it too?

Last odd tidbit. A convincing case can be made that the United States and Europe were tricked into the War against Serbia by a Moslem massacre of their own people. Deceit is integral to the Koran and that scam worked out pretty good for their side. It all boils down to one question. Could this latest act of terror be just be an another act of deception designed to discredit anti-islamic activists?

4 posted on 07/25/2011 4:57:57 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: Scanian

Breivik was very much anti-Nazi as well, and very pro-Israel.


5 posted on 07/25/2011 5:01:23 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: buccaneer81

I’m sure that page must be interesting. What does everyone do, share streetfighting tips? Prison pruno recipes?


6 posted on 07/25/2011 5:14:02 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: skeeter

Pretty much reading what constitutes conservative thought over this atrocity I think being against multi-culturalism is wrong headed, conservatives should worry about tax cuts and winning in AfPak instead. We keep pressing on side issues like multiculti it will only drive away the women’s vote by appearing mean. I say open the borders let the chips fall where they may except securing tax cuts and AfPak (which we need to triple our forces and expenditures on).


7 posted on 07/25/2011 5:29:46 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: 1rudeboy
I’m sure that page must be interesting. What does everyone do, share streetfighting tips? Prison pruno recipes?

Isn't time for you to face east and raise your butt in the air?

8 posted on 07/25/2011 5:34:04 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: junta

I’m not quite willing to cede all of western civilization and our cherished liberties yet. I don’t care how many murdering lunatics kill in its name.


9 posted on 07/25/2011 5:35:19 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: junta
I say open the borders let the chips fall where they may

An 11 year sleeper troll. Unbelievable.

10 posted on 07/25/2011 5:36:21 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Best projectiles to throw at opponents of your soccer team? The benefits of a studded baton over a blackjack? Drug preparation tips?


11 posted on 07/25/2011 5:40:06 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Let’s see you back up your smart ass remarks.


12 posted on 07/25/2011 5:44:33 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

How to beat an assault charge? Best way to rush a police barricade?


13 posted on 07/25/2011 5:50:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Dhimmi.


14 posted on 07/25/2011 5:56:53 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: junta
We keep pressing on side issues like multiculti it will only drive away the women’s vote by appearing mean.

Well, I guess they could learn to like being gang raped.

Voting is FUN!!! Rock The Vote!!!

15 posted on 07/25/2011 6:01:43 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: buccaneer81

I’ve also observed that a lot of them appear to be latent homosexuals.


16 posted on 07/25/2011 6:02:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Nateman
On June 24 Norway banned Sharia courts. Why would the killer massacre so many children of the elite when the country was already heading the way he wanted it too?

Interesting.

In '95, McVeigh's (and AbuSayeff's ) bombing in OK City happened when the hearings had been scheduled into BATF and FBI excesses at Ruby Ridge and Waco, and there was gathering support for a repeal of the AWB in Congress and at the grass roots. The 'militia movement' was flourishing.

IOW, the timing couldn't have been worse for such an event that the media could use against those who objected to the Clintons' excesses and their Administration trashing the Constitution.

Suddenly, conservatives were on the defensive, distancing themselves from the bombing and the idealogical meme that led to all of us 'bitter clingers' being branded as a likely pool for 'homegrown terrorism' by the likes of the SPLC.

Of course, pushing the meme takes the heat off of a very real and pervasive threat by removing those who object to current policy or placing them on the defensive.

Debate could be dismissed as 'dangerous' or 'crackpot'.

17 posted on 07/25/2011 6:12:47 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 1rudeboy
I’ve also observed that a lot of them appear to be latent homosexuals.

Takes one to know one?

18 posted on 07/25/2011 6:14:31 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

No, I don’t even have a Facebook account. Is that where they troll for encounters?


19 posted on 07/25/2011 6:16:32 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: OldNewYork
Breivik was very much anti-Nazi as well, and very pro-Israel.

Quite true. Those folks who only listen to Glenn Beck, of course, wouldn't know those uncomfortable facts. He is also very neo-conish in his approach to religion e.g. a Christian culture is good for the benefit of maintaining a unitary culture but, of course, all that stuff is nonsense.

20 posted on 07/25/2011 6:22:47 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Smokin' Joe

The immediate pretext seems to be that Norway is recognizing the PLO.


21 posted on 07/25/2011 6:24:15 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Smokin' Joe
Suddenly, conservatives were on the defensive, distancing themselves from the bombing and the idealogical meme that led to all of us 'bitter clingers' being branded as a likely pool for 'homegrown terrorism' by the likes of the SPLC.

I've also thought that both Oklahoma City and the Norway attacks were False Flag operations.

22 posted on 07/25/2011 6:31:03 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Keep shoveling the crap. You’ve always lived up to your name. Now you’re a Muzzie apologist. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.


23 posted on 07/25/2011 6:37:57 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

You are taking it personally. That’s not my problem.


24 posted on 07/25/2011 6:40:14 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You are running your mouth about a group that actually walks the walk. A group that you perceive from the MSM as extreme. The EDL does what we should be doing in this country. Remember that when you see the dedication of the Ground Zero mosque, dhimmi.


25 posted on 07/25/2011 6:44:40 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

“Walks the walk.” LOL You could say that about the KKK.


26 posted on 07/25/2011 6:50:23 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

So the EDL is the equivalent of the KKK? What an ignorant fool you are.


27 posted on 07/25/2011 7:06:17 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: 1rudeboy

Have you renewed your SPLC membership?


28 posted on 07/25/2011 7:07:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

How many of these homo soccer hooligans have “friended” you?


29 posted on 07/25/2011 7:09:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the info. Another piece falls into place.


30 posted on 07/25/2011 7:09:35 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: 1rudeboy
Awfully sure of yourself with the homo talk. Tells the world a lot about you.

My Facebook account details are none of your business.

Let's see your evidence of your views on the EDL. Put up or shut up.

31 posted on 07/25/2011 7:12:30 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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So the EDL is the equivalent of the KKK?

Slow down, Francis. Breathe. What you think someone says is not always what someone has actually said. Did you learn to do that on Facebook also?

32 posted on 07/25/2011 7:14:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: buccaneer81
Let's see your evidence of your views on the EDL.

Do you want news, or actual arrest records?

33 posted on 07/25/2011 7:16:43 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: buccaneer81

Unbelievable is reading all this emoting, now I understand the first thing is to duck and run when incoming is coming in, but reading these threads the last few days made me think that conservatives first wish is to please liberals.
It was sarcasm folks.


34 posted on 07/25/2011 7:19:50 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: buccaneer81

Unbelievable is reading all this emoting, now I understand the first thing is to duck and run when incoming is coming in, but reading these threads the last few days made me think that conservatives first wish is to please liberals.
It was sarcasm folks.


35 posted on 07/25/2011 7:22:02 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: 1rudeboy
So what if there are arrests? That's going to happen when the opposition like UAF starts a riot and the police start grabbing whoever they can.

I want to know just why you personally are so adamantly opposed to the EDL. I see nobody else on the thread sharing your oddball views.

36 posted on 07/25/2011 7:22:11 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: junta
It was sarcasm folks

My apologies for my mistake.

37 posted on 07/25/2011 7:24:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: 1rudeboy
An American Salute to the EDL
38 posted on 07/25/2011 7:34:38 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
I want to know just why you personally are so adamantly opposed to the EDL.
Well, it starts after having researched soccer hooliganism in most countries (except Latin America). You take your fascists (England), neo-Nazis (Germany), Communists (Yugoslavia and elsewhere), mix in a healthy wallop of ethnic nationalism and a desire to kick in people's heads, and form a political party. What can possibly go wrong?

I see nobody else on the thread sharing your oddball views.
I'm hurt. Maybe I should register for Facebook after all.

39 posted on 07/25/2011 7:39:22 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: buccaneer81

My apologies for my lame attempt at sarcasm, my excuse being I’m tired of the overwrought emoting.


40 posted on 07/25/2011 7:49:20 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: buccaneer81

I appreciate that.

The thing about the EDL is that they have stopped Choudary-planned Muslim rallies un English cities just by announcing that they were going to show up in force.

The EDL coming raises the event to another level...more police will go to the scene...more protesters as well...and most of the propaganda effect of the so-called “Muslim rights” rally will be lost.

Plus Anjen Choudary is an obvious coward.

The muzzies decided to call the whole thing off in a couple instances though I haven’t kept track as closely this year.


41 posted on 07/26/2011 5:42:14 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: buccaneer81; OldNewYork

Official EDL Statement on Breivik:

Unfortunately, due to some uneducated members of the media, blindly only reporting half a story, we have been forced to make another statement on the Norwegian terrorist Anders Brievik and further give attention to him, rather than the 94 innocent victims, their families and the people of Norway who deserve the attention as they recover from this tragedy.

It would seem shameful that journalists have been all too quick to link the English Defence League to this murderous creature, quoting from his blog that ‘on some occasions [he] had discussions with SIOE and EDL and recommended them to use certain strategies (via facebook)’. We can categorically state that there has never been any official contact between him and the EDL, our facebook page had 100,000 supporters and receives tens of thousands of comments each day. And there is no evidence that Brievik was ever one of those 100,000 supporters. Even so, anyone who expresses any extremist beliefs of any kind, be it white supremacist, christian fundamentalist or Islamic extremists, they all get banned from the site.

We have a long and successful history of ridding this peaceful and patriotic organisation of anyone who doesn’t agree with our mission statement, or shows extremist beliefs. This includes successful stewarding of our demos, ensuring that any racists are removed from the areas, strict moderating on our forums and constant monitoring of our facebook pages and affiliated groups. It has been reported that Norway has some problems far-right groups and neo-Nazi organisations, in February, our friends at the Norwegian Defence League had many new supporters after our peaceful Luton demonstration. Unfortunately, due to irresponsible and libellous journalism, some of these new supporters believed the NDL to be a group to express their far-right and neo-Nazi beliefs. It wasn’t and the NDL did a fine job of quickly acting and banishing such unwanted fascists and putting the record straight that fascists are not welcome in the Defence Leagues, only patriots worried about the rise of extremism that causes unnecessary death and pain to innocent people. It is not known whether Brievik was one of those to be banished, but the fact that one of his aims was to set up a Norwegian version of the EDL, when there already was one, goes some way to showing that he hasn’t got a clue about the EDL movement.

If these pathetic and sensationalist journalists had bothered to give the due respect to Norway, its readers and the truth, they would have read the entire writings of Brievik and reported the whole story. They would see that Brievik talks about the EDL in a negative light because of our anti-extremist stance. They would have reported the facts, they would have reported our history of being anti-fascist, anti-violent and anti-extremist. They would have reported that Brievik also states on page 1438 of his document, ‘The EDL are in fact anti-racist, anti-fascist and anti-Nazi. They have many members and leaders with non-European background (African and Asian)…EDL and KT (Brievik) principles can never be reconciled as we are miles apart ideologically…The EDL harshly condemns any movement that use terror as a tool, such as the KT. This is why, we, the KT, view the EDL as naïve fools.’

It couldn’t be made any clearer that Brievik did not like the way the EDL was a peaceful organisation, open to all, making our point through legal and democratic means, as Brievik recognises we do ‘The EDL is a democratic movement, they still believe that the democratic system can solve Britain’s problems‘. He even knew before hand that the EDL would harshly condemn his terrorist atrocity and his terrorist group, and as the leading anti-terrorist, anti-fascist, anti-racist organisation in the country, this is exactly what we have already done in our release yesterday http://englishdefenceleague.org/extremism-strikes-in-norway/.

No form of terrorism can ever be justified and the taking of innocent lives, can never be justified. We are proud to stand strongly against all forms of extremism and we will continue to speak out against the biggest terrorist threat to our nation, Islamic extremism. With our next protest in the most extremist filled area of the UK, home to many past terrorists and no telling how many future terrorists, East London. Just last week, a Somalian national from the area went on trial for funding terrorism, so it is vitally important the law abiding citizens of this land make a stand to urge the government into decisive action to prevent the next act of terrorism and scene of devastation, again being in the UK.

Again, our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Norway.


42 posted on 07/26/2011 5:58:53 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Here's his video, he saw himself as a Knight Templar:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89a_1311444384

43 posted on 07/26/2011 8:50:10 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: buccaneer81; junta

Junta - Why do we have to fold on all issues to get the budget in order? WE don’t. I am not folding. Has FR taught you nothing but how to cave like a GOP senator?

Buc - good catch......11 year troll.......LMAO.


44 posted on 07/26/2011 8:57:42 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

He meant it as sarcasm...just didn’t tag it. I was all fired up about the garbage 1rudeboy was spewing and I took it out on junta.


45 posted on 07/26/2011 10:25:52 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

good thing you caught me with a ping...good. an 11 sleeper is scary .....LOL


46 posted on 07/26/2011 10:54:45 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

You catch my mea culpa?


47 posted on 07/26/2011 11:20:24 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Scanian

Their second statement should pretty much settle it then. I can’t see anyone seriously condemning the English Defence League just because Breivik liked them - he clearly concluded that they were hopelessly trusting in the democratic process. I guess they’re so used to being accused of being racist, fascist, nazis, ‘Christian fundamentalist’ that they had to keep repeating in it that they’re not - but neither was Breivik. He was anti-nazi, pro-Israel, culturally Christian, alright with multiculturalism as long as it wasn’t a Mohammedan takeover. But as they pointed out, they don’t believe in mass-killings, targeted killings, sowing terror, whereas Breivik and his group (if it exists) do.


48 posted on 07/26/2011 11:51:57 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: buccaneer81

maybe he’s related to Charles Johnson


49 posted on 07/27/2011 7:09:20 AM PDT by dervish (women presidential candidates, the last frontier)
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To: buccaneer81

You never know. He certainly lives up to his name.


50 posted on 07/27/2011 10:19:26 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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