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Allen West backing Boehner’s debt deal, Pelosi welcomes “age of austerity” (World turns upside down)
Hotair ^ | 07/25/2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 07/25/2011 7:48:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Via the Standard, the scoop on West comes from Cox Radio reporter Jamie Dupree. West himself weighed in on Twitter:

I will support the new debt deal- it has enough of what I need including no tax hikes, spending caps and a step toward a balanced budget.

US Senate has no credibility. Sen Reid has had 815 days to produce a budget- nothing & now he wants to produce a debt plan. Zero credibility

Big news, needless to say. West’s support gives Boehner’s plan instant grassroots cred and therefore political cover for other tea-party freshmen to grudgingly support it, which is exactly what the GOP leadership needs to keep the plan viable in the House. It also signals a fracture within the Cut, Cap, and Balance Coalition, of which West is a member and which, as a group, opposes the plan because it punts entitlements to a commission and doesn’t demand a vote up front on a balanced-budget entitlement. Boehner’s back in the game!

Or … maybe not:

The chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee wasted little time announcing his opposition to the House GOP leadership’s two-step plan to raise the debt ceiling.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), who stood — visibly uncomfortable — next to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) during Monday’s announcement of the plan, released a statement saying he would vote “no” on the measure…

Jordan argued that his leadership team should stand behind a measure that the House approved on a party-line vote last week — the “cut, cap and balance” bill that failed in the Senate.

“The credit rating agencies have been clear that no matter what happens with the debt limit, the U.S. will lose its AAA credit rating unless we produce a credible plan to reduce the debt by trillions of dollars. Cut, Cap, and Balance is the only plan on the table that meets this standard. Only a Balanced Budget Amendment will actually solve our debt problems,” Jordan stated.

DeMint’s also against it, of course, but Mike Pence is reserving judgment and Grover Norquist’s group supports it because it includes no new tax hikes. (Neither does Reid’s plan, actually. Do they also support that?) With so many conservative power-brokers pointing different ways, maybe Boehner can get to 218 with most of his caucus plus a few Hoyer-ish Democrats.

Or … maybe not:

Washington, D.C. – Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement on proposals announced today to reduce the deficit and avoid default:

It is clear we must enter an era of austerity; to reduce the deficit through shared sacrifice…

“The latest proposal from the House Republicans is a short-term plan that burdens the middle class and seniors, and continues this debate about whether we will default in a few months from now.

Senator Reid has put forward a responsible plan to reduce the deficit that protects the middle class, and Medicare, Social Security and Medicare beneficiaries. It also includes many proposals already supported by Republicans.”

So there’s the answer to my exit question in the earlier post about Reid’s proposal. Yes, in fact, House progressives will support a bill that doesn’t raise taxes and cuts over $2.5 trillion (almost half of it in phony war “savings,” of course) so long as it doesn’t touch entitlements and spares the Lightbringer the inconvenience of dealing with this issue again before the election. And if they’re willing to do that, maybe centrist Democrats will decide to go for broke by lining up behind Reid as a viable option and voting no on Boehner. Either way, take some comfort in the fact that the GOP’s resolute push for meaningful cuts now has Nancy Pelosi croaking out praise through gritted teeth for “austerity.”

Which brings us to the new exit question: Can either of these bills pass both chambers? With Democrats lining up behind Reid, Boehner will have to pass his bill mostly or even solely with Republican votes. Even with West on his side, I’m not sure he can get to 218 — although, ironically, the fact that Democrats are pulling together may help convince reluctant freshmen Republicans to back Boehner either in the name of party solidarity or to make sure that Reid’s plan, with the help of moderate GOPers, isn’t the only one that gets to the Senate. Even if Boehner gets it through the House, though, how does McConnell get it through the Senate with DeMint and a few other Republicans bound to vote no while Senate Democrats rally behind Reid’s plan as some sort of gaudy fiscally conservative alternative? Hard to see how the GOP gets to 60 but it’s pretty easy to see how Reid does thanks to Brown, Murkowski, Collins, Snowe and three or four other Republicans who’ll vote yes simply in the interest of averting default at the eleventh hour. The only question is whether House Republicans can hang together to block Reid’s bill in the lower chamber, which will now be much harder with Pelosi supporting it. If she and Hoyer deliver, say, 160 Democrats, are moderate Republicans really going to walk away from that, knowing that Default Day is impending and that Boehner’s bill is DOA in the Senate? I’m skeptical.

Update: West on the Boehner plan:

Even Rep. Allen West (R., Fla.), a freshman and tea-party favorite, told National Review Online that while the plan was a “75 to 80 percent solution,” it was something he could ultimately support. “You know, son, one thing they tell you in the military — if you sit around and wait to come up with the 100 percent plan, then the enemy has probably already attacked you,” he said.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alanwest; austerity; debtceiling; debtdeal; johnboehner

1 posted on 07/25/2011 7:48:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Everything reminds Nan Pelosi of smoking pot...


2 posted on 07/25/2011 7:54:47 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: SeekAndFind

Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement on proposals announced today to reduce the deficit and avoid default:

“It is clear we must enter an era of austerity”


Well Nancy, you can start with David Wu.


3 posted on 07/25/2011 8:07:44 PM PDT by eaglestar
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To: eaglestar

Nothing is worse than watching a lying Dummie fain fiscal responsibility. Especially the pathetic record Nasty Nan has.


4 posted on 07/25/2011 8:11:58 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: eaglestar

Nothing is worse than watching a lying Dummie fain fiscal responsibility. Especially the pathetic record Nasty Nan has.


5 posted on 07/25/2011 8:11:58 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yippee WEST...I saw your posting on FaceBook and am proud of the position you have taken.


6 posted on 07/25/2011 8:14:59 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: Marty62

Is Nasty P. flying coach yet?


7 posted on 07/25/2011 8:15:55 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: oblomov

Nope,,,just another bad trip.......


8 posted on 07/25/2011 8:16:35 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: shield

Demint is ratcheting up the war against the RINOs. I wonder if he will give West any money in the next election.

walkerdl Daniel Walker
RT @MattMackowiak: DeMint on Fox News: “Reid’s plan is only a decoy to drive people to Boehner’s plan, which is essentially the same thing.”
12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

chucktodd Chuck Todd
DeMint is against BOTH Reid and Boehner: “I will work to oppose both of these downgrade deals and continue to fight for Cut, Cap & Balance”

Chuck Todd
chucktodd Chuck Todd
If Boehner can’t get HIS plan thru the House, then all bets are off on how this ends. Surprised at how many House GOPers r publicly against


9 posted on 07/25/2011 8:18:34 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Judith Anne

Maybe she has he rich hubby coughing up the dough for her luxuries.

Nasty Nan on Commercial airline...when pigs fly.


10 posted on 07/25/2011 8:21:01 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: RummyChick
DeMint is against BOTH Reid and Boehner: “I will work to oppose both of these downgrade deals and continue to fight for Cut, Cap & Balance”

At least someone has integrity, and fortitude.

11 posted on 07/25/2011 8:25:54 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: SeekAndFind

Another trillion in debt spending is “austerity”??


12 posted on 07/25/2011 8:27:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Marty62
Nothing is worse than watching a lying Dummie fain fiscal responsibility.
The only thing worse than watching them fain fiscal responsibility is to watch them feign fiscal responsibility.
13 posted on 07/25/2011 8:29:53 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Prokopton; shield

DeMint is correct. They are all bad proposals.

I heard the Bohner proposal would have draconian cuts like $25B this year and $28B next year. Laughable. Insane. National-suicide level self-deception.


14 posted on 07/25/2011 8:32:29 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Fain n Fial sounds like an Irish political party


15 posted on 07/25/2011 8:33:34 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Marty62

someone needs to tell her what “austerity” means....


16 posted on 07/25/2011 8:33:43 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: GeronL

You have some bad information...it is not true.


17 posted on 07/25/2011 8:43:37 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: RummyChick

You are in for a big surprise...


18 posted on 07/25/2011 8:49:17 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Allen West does not walk on water. The sooner various elements of the TEA Party accept this fact, the better off they’ll be.

And let’s see if DeMint does anything other than flap his gums, as usual.


19 posted on 07/25/2011 8:55:23 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Typical.


20 posted on 07/25/2011 8:59:53 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with political parties. The GOP is useless. Anarchy is perferable to this CRAP!)
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To: GeronL
DeMint is correct. They are all bad proposals.

Yeah, including the one DeMint supports, which raises the debt ceiling by almost two and a half TRILLION dollars.

21 posted on 07/25/2011 9:02:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tax and spend is bad enough. But tax and borrow and spend is doing us in.)
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To: EternalVigilance

That is why I said “ALL” of them.


22 posted on 07/25/2011 9:08:10 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind

That RINO West. /sarc


23 posted on 07/25/2011 9:20:24 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming
That RINO West. /sarc

Actually, he is. He makes exceptions on abortion that would allow for virtually any abortion. He voted to keep the funding for Obama's school medical clinics, which are nothing more than collection centers for the Planned Parenthood killing centers. No sarcasm.

24 posted on 07/25/2011 9:24:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tax and spend is bad enough. But tax and borrow and spend is doing us in.)
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To: GeronL

DeMint deserves a hearing before we jump to conclusions that Boehner’s great speech means he has mastered the art of the deal, which he is selling before we have a chance to even hear from all the representatives we just put in office in the mid-terms. This “commission” thing needs to be a NO SALE, since it cuts out those same newly elected right out of the power structure. Hopefully, the commission is no more than a point for negotiation to be negotiated right out of existence once the House Tea Party caucas get their hands on it. Bipartisan, my left foot. The full House deserves some respect given the way they have stood fast on CC&B


25 posted on 07/25/2011 9:34:25 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: SeekAndFind
Okay, uh huh, Reid and Pelosi are for it.

Are there any Repubs left in the beltway who trust anything that comes out of their mouths?

My guess is that, like Obama a few days ago, they will try to shove something down our throats at the last minute, quickly quickly quickly, before anyone has a chance to think about it, with the threat of Armageddon coming from Bernanke, Obama, Geithner, and the MSM.

Hey, Repubs: the answer is NO.

The Dim playbook is short, old, and boring.

26 posted on 07/25/2011 9:47:29 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: shield

Really, I just scratched west off my list of people I thought knew something.


27 posted on 07/25/2011 9:51:12 PM PDT by org.whodat (third party time.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Sorry..didn’t use sc. My bad.


28 posted on 07/25/2011 10:07:24 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
The only thing worse than watching them fain fiscal responsibility is to watch them feign fiscal responsibility.

But is there anything worse than faining fiscal responsibility twice?

29 posted on 07/25/2011 10:15:30 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: bigbob

No doubt SHE would love it. Right up her alley:

Word Origin & History

austerity

mid-14c., “sternness, harshness,” from O.Fr. austerite (14c.), from L.L. austeritatem (nom. austeritas ), from austerus (see austere). Of severe self-discipline, from 1580s; hence “severe simplicity” (1875); applied during WWII to national policies limiting non-essentials as a wartime economy.


30 posted on 07/25/2011 10:21:05 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: SeekAndFind
“You know, son, one thing they tell you in the military — if you sit around and wait to come up with the 100 percent plan, then the enemy has probably already attacked you,” he said.

Good point.

31 posted on 07/25/2011 11:58:11 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SeekAndFind; All

OMG! Allen West supports Boehner?! He must be a RINO!
< \sarcasm>


32 posted on 07/26/2011 2:24:35 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Tennessean4Bush

The reign in Speign stays meignly in the pleign


33 posted on 07/26/2011 4:23:53 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: Fledermaus

?


34 posted on 07/26/2011 6:21:57 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess what McCain said hurt West’s feelings.

I hope AZ is over run by Mexicans. It serves them right for re-electing McCain. And when Brewer slammed the birthers.


35 posted on 07/27/2011 10:46:37 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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