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Issa: Obama admin intimidating witnesses in ATF gun probe
Washington Times ^ | July 26, 2011 | By Stephen Dinan and Chuck Neubauer

Posted on 07/26/2011 7:14:09 AM PDT by Mozilla

The Obama administration sought to intimidate witnesses into not testifying to Congress on Tuesday about whether ATF knowingly allowed weapons, including assault rifles, to be “walked” into Mexico, the chairman of a House committee investigating the program said in an interview Monday.

House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa, California Republican, said at least two scheduled witnesses expected to be asked about a controversial weapons investigation known as “Fast and Furious”received warning letters from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to limit their testimony.

Mr. Issa's committee is set to hear testimony from six current or former ATF employees, including agents and attaches assigned to the bureau’s offices in Mexico, about the operation — in which, federal agents say, they were told to stand down and watch as guns flowed from U.S. dealers in Arizona to violent criminals and drug cartels in Mexico.

Among other questions, the agents are likely to be asked about a large volume of guns showing up in Mexico that were traced back to the Fast and Furious program; whether ATF officials in that country expressed concerns about the weapons to agency officials in the U.S., only to be brushed aside; and whether ATF officials in Arizona denied ATF personnel in Mexico access to information about the operation.

Nearly 50 weapons linked to the Fast and Furious program have been recovered to date in Mexico.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
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This is about the 100th thing Obama and his cronies have done to destroy and subvert the constitution. He think he is invincible. It is like OBama is wanting to get impeached.
1 posted on 07/26/2011 7:14:12 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Now the question is, will the Republicans grow a spine and stand for something.


2 posted on 07/26/2011 7:18:33 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Mozilla

"Holder openly proclaimed his connection to the operation in April 2009 during a publicized speech in Mexico, then told a Congressional Committee in May 2011, "I probably heard of Fast and Furious the first time in the last few weeks."

3 posted on 07/26/2011 7:21:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Mozilla

Don’t forget to include the Honduras angle also. More than one Central American country is involved in this.


4 posted on 07/26/2011 7:25:35 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Mozilla

bump.


5 posted on 07/26/2011 7:38:24 AM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: Mozilla

“This is about the 100th thing Obama and his cronies have done to destroy and subvert the constitution. He think he is invincible. It is like OBama is wanting to get impeached.”

Is BHO dba POTUS arming a civilian defence force (CDF) like he promised to do in his campaign?

What is the status of his CDF promise?


6 posted on 07/26/2011 7:43:30 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: Mozilla; Joe Brower; neverdem; marktwain

Hearings are going on right now, as of 10am eastern time.

Everybody stay tuned for big news—at least that’s what Codrea and Vanderbaugh are saying.


7 posted on 07/26/2011 7:45:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

are these hearing being broadcast anywhere? was I hoping to listen on c-span


8 posted on 07/26/2011 7:48:01 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Newton

It’s being streamed through the Fox News web site. Opening statements of witnesses are occurring now.


9 posted on 07/26/2011 7:50:33 AM PDT by Helen
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To: Mozilla

The reason Obama keeps the debt ceiling negotiations in turmoil is to take the focus off Issa’s investigation.


10 posted on 07/26/2011 7:51:10 AM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: Mozilla; Mikie
Interfering with the cooperation or testimony of a witness undermines the judicial system and is a serious crime.

Often called witness tampering or intimidation, it is usually punished as a felony.

Leni

11 posted on 07/26/2011 7:51:10 AM PDT by MinuteGal (We need ObamaCare Like Nancy Pelosi Needs a Halloween Mask)
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To: Newton

I’m not sure where the hearings are being carried live, but we’ll be getting reports shortly, I’m sure of that.


12 posted on 07/26/2011 7:52:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KeyLargo

Napolitano is the most masculine of the three.


13 posted on 07/26/2011 7:56:47 AM PDT by surrey
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To: Travis McGee

I confess..I listen to NPR in the morning before my dog walk.
It get’s both me and my dog awake.
There was a break threw this AM. NPR finally reported on Fast and Furious. It was a very guarded report,but basically accurate. Short a lot of details, but it seems that they have been forced to acknowledge that some of the weapons were used to kill a USBP Agent.
Except now that the MSM will start reporting and spinning these hearings down, but eventually the shite will hit the spinners.


14 posted on 07/26/2011 8:00:14 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Travis McGee

I found it on c-span radio, listening now.... (they didn’t list it on their regular schedule like they did last time)If you have a smart phone and can get the cspan radio app you can listen....


15 posted on 07/26/2011 8:02:37 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Newton

It’s also being streamed throughout the Oversight Committee website:

http://oversight.house.gov.


16 posted on 07/26/2011 8:07:08 AM PDT by Helen
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To: Mozilla

Isn´t witness tampering supposed to be a crime?

Silly me, eh?


17 posted on 07/26/2011 8:09:17 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: MinuteGal
Let's say it one more time:

Often called witness tampering or intimidation, it is usually punished as a felony.

18 posted on 07/26/2011 8:10:55 AM PDT by Ben Hecks (Democrats: We didn't invent lying - we just brought it to a whole new level)
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To: Mozilla

Gangsta Governement.


19 posted on 07/26/2011 8:12:09 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Mozilla

Witnesses before the committee this morning (from the Committee’s website):

Mr. Carlos Canino
ATF Acting Attaché to Mexico

Mr. Darren Gil
Former ATF Attaché to Mexico

Mr. Jose Wall
ATF Senior Special Agent
Tijuana, Mexico

Mr. Lorren Leadmon
ATF Intelligence Operations Specialist

Mr. William Newell
Former ATF Special Agent in Charge
Phoenix Field Division

Mr. William McMahon
ATF Deputy Assistant Director for Field Operations
(West, including Phoenix and Mexico)


20 posted on 07/26/2011 8:12:36 AM PDT by Helen
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To: onedoug

Witness tampering is a crime that should get Obama is trouble. But nobody has a spine to call him under the carpet yet. I’m hoping Issa is the guy to go after him and call for impeachment. Wouldn’t shock me to learn that the Obama administration is tampering with evidence as well. These were the same tactics they used in the black panther voter intimdation case. Obama wants desperately to get away with doing whatever he wants and it seems to me that he is going great lengths to hide just about everything he is up to behind closed doors.


21 posted on 07/26/2011 8:24:53 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Witness tampering is so... Clintonian.


22 posted on 07/26/2011 8:27:22 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Mozilla
Hmmmm. I wonder how much of the border violence the past couple of years might be a result of the F&F fiasco... validating the law of unintended consequences?

When one has no clue or care of the ramifications of what he's doing, he should expect the worst.

23 posted on 07/26/2011 8:28:38 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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To: Real Cynic No More

Newell was just asked by Burton where the records and documentation was of all these weapons being sold. Newell had a sudden attack of stupid.


24 posted on 07/26/2011 8:32:03 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Newton

They are nailing Newell’s butt to the wall.... he is an idiot!


25 posted on 07/26/2011 8:40:45 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Helen

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Fox news streaming is blocked at work due to heavy bandwidth.


26 posted on 07/26/2011 8:42:35 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: Helen

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Fox news streaming is blocked at work due to heavy bandwidth.


27 posted on 07/26/2011 8:42:37 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: DCBryan1

if you have a smartphone there is a cspan radio app that you can download and listen


28 posted on 07/26/2011 8:48:34 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Helen

Mr. Gowdy is kicking Newells ass. Newell needs firing now. Hell, this is CRJU 101 type questions and statements.


29 posted on 07/26/2011 8:50:23 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: DCBryan1

He is. Newell is slimy and is not a good face for BATF. This is amazing!


30 posted on 07/26/2011 8:52:57 AM PDT by Helen
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To: Newton

I have an Iphone...Ill check it out....thanks


31 posted on 07/26/2011 8:53:05 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: DCBryan1

Mr. Gowdy: If Mexican criminal justice requested that we extradited ATF officials that allowed straw purchasers to send guns to criminals in Mexics what would your reaction be? (my paraphrase)

Agent Newell: uh, uh, uh,.....

OUCH


32 posted on 07/26/2011 8:54:38 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: dagogo redux

no doubt, we must remove the cancer...take away all federal rights to raise money, no taxes, nada, all states should have balanced budget amendments and it should be up to the states what they want to allow the federal g to get..I doubt 1/10 of the money we spend gets where it was allocated to..


33 posted on 07/26/2011 8:56:44 AM PDT by aces
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To: Mozilla

0bama knows that Congress would never have the nerve to impeach him, or even to hold hearings where he is accused of wrong doing. He has an impenetrable melanin based impeachment shield.


34 posted on 07/26/2011 8:58:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: DCBryan1

its the right price too.... free! LOL


35 posted on 07/26/2011 8:59:52 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mozilla

Does being half black mean you can’t be impeached?


36 posted on 07/26/2011 9:14:41 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Mozilla
“If you don’t think this is fun, you’re in the wrong line of work — period"

According to the article, the above was written in an e~mail from an ATF Supervisor to ATF agents who were complaining about the operation. Something tells me this guy was either at WACO or really mad he wasn't. De-fund BATFE, NOW.

37 posted on 07/26/2011 9:16:24 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: liberalh8ter

...Interesting point about Waco, another debacle. Will we find out what really happened there, besides a BBQ...


38 posted on 07/26/2011 9:26:37 AM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: paint_your_wagon

the ‘rats on the committee are desperate to make this about gun control and ignoring the real issue.... gawd they are stupid.


39 posted on 07/26/2011 9:44:59 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Newton; bang_list
BREAKING during testimony (1158hrs) : ATF SA McMahon, Newell's direct superior at Phoenix, AZ ATF office just told Congressman Labrador and Issa that, "NO one, NO ONE above his level knew anything of guns being "walked" across the border". Can you say PERJURY!? Can you say Obstruction of Justice?! TIME FOR A GRAND JURY!

Looks like the Dept. of Just Us and maybe the White house itself might be giving these two idiots marching orders to obstruct Congress and hope for a Pardon from the POTUS.

....but that is just my observation.

40 posted on 07/26/2011 10:18:07 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: TauntedTiger

...”Is BHO dba POTUS arming a civilian defence force (CDF) like he promised to do in his campaign?”...

I would say yes and offer the SWAT teams of DHS, TSA, IRS, local law enforcement departments in addition to the Secret Service and alphabet agencies. All off the radar. I have no documents to verify inter city hiring and in country training centers but throw it out in case others do. We have no shortage of goon squads.


41 posted on 07/26/2011 10:32:29 AM PDT by mcshot (Under construction..Ditch Mitch, expose Barry's real life and handlers,Save US.)
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To: gargoyle
As far as I'm concerned, what happened at WACO was well documented in “Rules of Engagement” and if you aren't already aware of what a total piece of excrement Chuck Schumer is, this film puts that in perspective, as well.
42 posted on 07/26/2011 10:44:12 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: DCBryan1

“NO one, NO ONE above his level knew anything of guns being “walked” across the border”

But, but Holder said they were in 2009. Am I missing something or did Newell just get his pension?

By the way, be careful what you ash for. Newell’s replacement is a Chicago gun grabbing thug.


43 posted on 07/26/2011 11:27:37 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law)
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To: mcshot

“All off the radar.”

I agree, xyz SWAT teams conduct activities and are postured like a standing army.

In any case, as far as I know, Obama has never been asked to give the American public an update on the status of his Civilian Defense Force plan.


44 posted on 07/26/2011 11:47:45 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: onedoug

Do you mean illegal like Voter Intimidation? s


45 posted on 07/26/2011 12:44:46 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: onedoug

Do you mean illegal like Voter Intimidation? s


46 posted on 07/26/2011 12:55:16 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: jellybean
"The reason Obama keeps the debt ceiling negotiations in turmoil is to take the focus off Issa’s investigation."

Very interesting thought.

47 posted on 07/26/2011 8:20:22 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: jellybean

...Spin, twist, distract, they’re all standard operation procedure...


48 posted on 07/26/2011 11:09:40 PM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: cookcounty
Think about it. Obama didn't seem that interested in dealing with the debt crisis until after Kenneth Melson's secret testimony July 4th. Also, when is the last time he's spent more than 1 or 2 days in Washington? His purpose is to manipulate the media and keep their focus off Issa's investigation.
49 posted on 07/26/2011 11:10:35 PM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: gargoyle
...Spin, twist, distract, they’re all standard operation procedure...

Exactly! He's manipulating the media by causing as much chaos as possible. If he can keep them distracted with the debt ceiling long enough, maybe the Issa investigation will wind down without the media ever reporting it.

50 posted on 07/26/2011 11:16:18 PM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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