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Toyota to Equip Prius With Power Supply Function
TechON! ^ | Jul 21, 2011 16:45 | Naoshige Shimizu, Nikkei Automotive Technology

Posted on 07/26/2011 12:15:56 PM PDT by Red Badger

Toyota Motor Corp announced July 19, 2011, that it will equip the Prius with a function to provide electricity from its rechargeable battery to external equipment.

The function enables to power, for example, home electric appliances in the case of power outage. Toyota plans to release it as an option for the Prius in 2012. Its price has not been determined yet. The company intends to make the function available to other hybrid electric vehicles, too.

Toyota has already equipped the hybrid electric version of the Estima with a power supply function.

"(After the Tohoku Earthquake,) users in the afflicted areas told us that they charged their mobile phones by using the Estima during the long blackout and it helped them," Toyota President Akio Toyoda said.

Because of such responses from the users, Toyoda decided to equip other hybrid electric vehicles (HEVs) with the function.

The maximum output of the power supply function is 1.5kW, and it can power almost all kinds of home appliances including TV, PC, rice cooker and dryer. When the SOC (state of charge) of the rechargeable battery is lowered due to power supply, the engine is automatically started to charge the battery. When the fuel tank is full, it is possible to continuously supply electricity at the maximum output for about two days.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Japan; Technical
KEYWORDS: auto; generator; hybrid; prius
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The Prius equipped with the power supply function

1 posted on 07/26/2011 12:15:58 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; sausageseller; ...

$40,000 Generator ping!...........


2 posted on 07/26/2011 12:17:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger

Also known as “the cigarette lighter.”


3 posted on 07/26/2011 12:18:37 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Red Badger

Sorry I’m late, Boss. The car wouldn’t start because Junior was up playing Xbox till 2:30 in the morning...


4 posted on 07/26/2011 12:19:19 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red Badger

That’s beautiful. Simple, obvious, yet unexploited to this point.

With enough features, and the price dropping, I could see myself in one of those things.


5 posted on 07/26/2011 12:22:37 PM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: Red Badger
Hmmm, every other car on the planet has one too.


6 posted on 07/26/2011 12:22:49 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Red Badger

Gee, swell. Then when people run their hybrid battery dead by powering the Playstation and big screen, they’ll be totally screwed!


7 posted on 07/26/2011 12:23:21 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Red Badger

Plus an additional grand or two for a short piece of heavy wire and an inverter. There is also a probably little box that monitors charging voltage and current flow direction. The one on my Sprinter produces 1.2 kw right out of the boxes .

All are stock RV/marine stuff available off the shelf. Toyota probably picked up the idea of a Prius users forum


8 posted on 07/26/2011 12:23:54 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: Red Badger
Or...


9 posted on 07/26/2011 12:24:13 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Red Badger

8 bucks and change on Amazon

10 posted on 07/26/2011 12:25:25 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; Yo-Yo; thefactor

The difference is, those adapters give you a 1A current draw. The rating of the Prius is 1.5kw, or roughly a 15A circuit. You could run your refrigerator and a sump pump on that.

Try that with the little cigarette lighter adaptors, and get back to me on how well it worked.


11 posted on 07/26/2011 12:28:49 PM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: Red Badger
power supply function is 1.5kW, and it can power almost all kinds of home appliances including TV, PC, rice cooker and dryer.

Rice cooker? The only cooking appliance mentioned?

You can't make this up.

12 posted on 07/26/2011 12:29:23 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Red Badger

This was already available as an aftermarket product available through the Priuschat forum, also there is an aftermarket DIY kit to do the same on older models.

The coolest application I’ve seen is someone set up their Prius up to keep their refrigerator operating during power outages in tornado alley. The second coolest application of this was the tailgating system at Giants stadium, guy had a blender and hotplate running off his Prius.


13 posted on 07/26/2011 12:30:36 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: cicero2k

Well, it is Japanese, and TechON! is an Asian website.................


14 posted on 07/26/2011 12:30:49 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: SoothingDave
Also known as “the cigarette lighter".

Good one....though I suggest, "Previously known as the cigarette lighter.

Kind of like how whole warehouses of Discwasher™ Record Cleaner became Discwasher™ CD Cleaner overnight.

15 posted on 07/26/2011 12:33:27 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: brownsfan

I don’t have one that will plug in to the lighter. it connects directly to the battery. 5000 watt output. If the calculator is correct that is 41 amps of 120 volt electricity. I use this to power my fish store when the lights go out.

It connects to my car much like a set of jumper cables connects to a tow truck. (because that is what I used) connect the large plug and it’s powered. My cars remote start has voltage protection. it automatically starts the car when voltage in the batteries drops below a set point.

A full tank of gas will power my shop for 1 day.

Total amount spent on the car, the cables and the inverter.
5% of the cost of a new Prius. I also use it at job sites when needed. I also produce the power of 3 Prius with it.


16 posted on 07/26/2011 12:36:44 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: brownsfan

http://www.theinverterstore.com/the-inverter-store-product.php?model=pwri150012s-top-rgb


17 posted on 07/26/2011 12:37:40 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: Red Badger
I hope they tell people to keep the garage door open when using this option. Otherwise, CO deaths will be a "feature."

It would be interesting to know the efficiency of the Prius in this mode vs. my Saturn (4-cyl) with a 1500w inverter, or just a 1500kva portable generator.

18 posted on 07/26/2011 12:38:41 PM PDT by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: brownsfan

Of course. But no one is going to buy a Prius simply because they offer this option. They’ll save money and buy a small generator.


19 posted on 07/26/2011 12:38:57 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: brownsfan

“The rating of the Prius is 1.5kw, or roughly a 15A circuit. You could run your refrigerator and a sump pump on that.”

This could be a seller for those folks that went without power in the tornado areas this year.


20 posted on 07/26/2011 12:39:13 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: brownsfan

Now they need a fold out solar panel that can be used instead of gas from the car. Why not go all the way?


21 posted on 07/26/2011 12:39:25 PM PDT by RC2
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To: thefactor
Will that little plug-in inverter deliver 1500W?

(The answer to my question is "No".)

22 posted on 07/26/2011 12:40:37 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Red Badger

Ford has had it for years. I have an ‘09 hybrid and it has it.


23 posted on 07/26/2011 12:41:21 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

See post #19.


24 posted on 07/26/2011 12:42:59 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: SoothingDave

I would not recommend trying to power a 1.5 kW load though a cigarette lighter, but that’s just me.


25 posted on 07/26/2011 12:43:04 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: RC2
Now they need a fold out solar panel...

Good point. I wonder how much of a home solar installation you could install for that $40k.

26 posted on 07/26/2011 12:43:39 PM PDT by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: Red Badger

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27 posted on 07/26/2011 12:43:43 PM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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Actually many options, the Aims 1250 Watt Power Inverter seemed to be the most popular choice in Florida after the 4 hurricanes in 2004, which was the last time I thought about this.

http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-prius-audio-electronics/10745-power-inverter-option.html

also people have built UPS systems in their houses to connect to their Prius, running separate electrical systems etc.
http://priups.com/riddle/answer-1.htm


28 posted on 07/26/2011 12:44:09 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: cableguymn

“A full tank of gas will power my shop for 1 day.”

Very cool. I’m not a tree hugger, but, I’m not opposed to doing what’s smart. If a Prius will serve enough functions, it could become useful. As I said the price has to drop, I think it’s around $24k for 2011 Prius. I wouldn’t spend $24k for a car that gets slightly better mileage than a Hyundai Elantra.

My commute is short, I have no objection to alternatives if they make sense.


29 posted on 07/26/2011 12:45:27 PM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: Red Badger
My brother's Escape Hybrid (2 years old) has a built-in 15A, 120VAC outlet between the front seats.

Nice feature, glad to see Toyota including it.

30 posted on 07/26/2011 12:46:00 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Pretty cool. Not a cigarette lighter plug in, but it’s worth a look. We don’t have power issues, but something like this would be almost as good as having a generator, and save a lot of food in the case of an outage.


31 posted on 07/26/2011 12:47:23 PM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: brownsfan
The difference is, those adapters give you a 1A current draw. The rating of the Prius is 1.5kw, or roughly a 15A circuit. You could run your refrigerator and a sump pump on that.

Given a choice between running my refrigerator and a sump pump from my Pious or buying a $300 2 KW generator, I'll take the generator, thank you.

This whole concept is stupid.

For the record, my 2005 Chevy Uplander has a 120VAC outlet in the tailgate area, and my kids have run their Wii from it, connecting the audio and video to the DVD entertainment system's flip down LCD screen.

There is a use for 120VAC inverter power in a car, but not as an emergency power source to run your home.

32 posted on 07/26/2011 12:47:23 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: RhoTheta

You could install a whole house solar system for that price. You can also buy a solar generator that can almost run your whole house for less than $10K.


33 posted on 07/26/2011 12:48:03 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Red Badger

I just bought a pressure washer for my house. As I look at it I’m thinking why didn’t they provide a way to use it as an air compressor too?


34 posted on 07/26/2011 12:48:13 PM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: cableguymn

Can you provide a website for this product. I am interested and certainly can’t afford to buy a Prius when I can use my Chevy truck. Thanks for any info.


35 posted on 07/26/2011 12:50:37 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Red Badger

Designing cars for the collapse of American civilization! So forward thinking and clever.


36 posted on 07/26/2011 12:50:46 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: ArrogantBustard

If they weren’t so damned expensive, I’d buy one but the extra $9,000 for 2-3 miles per gallon isn’t even cost effective at $10 a gallon, much less $4.


37 posted on 07/26/2011 12:51:19 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: thefactor
But no one is going to buy a Prius simply because they offer this option.

Of course not. I have a 1500W generator, not a Prius. I'm not in the market for a hybrid vehicle at all. If I were, though, the presence or absence of a built-in 15A 120VAC circuit might well be a deciding point among competing vehicles.

38 posted on 07/26/2011 12:51:43 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cableguymn
Can you get us a Bill of Materials and some directions on how to set it up in a car/truck?

This would be useful in California when the Big One hits.

Thanks

39 posted on 07/26/2011 12:53:19 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: cableguymn
Can you get us a Bill of Materials and some directions on how to set it up in a car/truck?

This would be useful in California when the Big One hits.

Thanks

40 posted on 07/26/2011 12:53:31 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: ArrogantBustard

Among hybrids, Prius is the best. Unless you need an SUV/truck for more room. The Prius gets excellent mileage and has plenty of power. However, the cost of replacing the batteries will eat up anything you save on gas. The technology just ain’t there yet.


41 posted on 07/26/2011 12:54:51 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: SoothingDave

You got a cigarette lighter that provides 120V, doofus?


42 posted on 07/26/2011 1:06:08 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Red Badger

My 2007 Dodge Nitro has a AC plug in the back seat center console area. I haven’t used it much except for to occasionally charge my phone.


43 posted on 07/26/2011 1:07:54 PM PDT by lwd
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To: RhoTheta

My 1997 Escort will run the 5000 watt inverter at half its output (any more than that and the alternator can’t keep up) for 24 hours. it burns about 12 gallons of fuel in that time frame.

The main reason is the remote start will start and stop the engine as needed. So it works much like the prius system. however, I suspect the prius battery might be larger than the 2 I have in my car.


44 posted on 07/26/2011 1:12:29 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: brownsfan

They are embarrassing to drive, but they really are good cars. My friend has one and if I could just get over the whacky liberal reputation of the car I would get one. I didn’t know the Prius had a “power” button that converts the car to internal combution only and gives it more power for acceleration.


45 posted on 07/26/2011 1:19:07 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Remote start
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Excalibur-Remote-Start-Keyless-Low-Battery-Guard-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ110611501575#ht_2171wt_939

Inverter (be sure to use the 20% off code!)
http://www.harborfreight.com/5000-watt-continuous-10000-watt-peak-power-inverter-96706.html

Jumper cables are out their from towing supply companies. I just happened to have a set from a tow truck that we scrapped out after it rolled over.

The only advantage the prius has over my setup is it’s ability to generate massive amounts of amperage to charge the battery. I have the largest alt I could find for my car.

And that would be this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-FORD-ESCORT-TRACER-HIGH-OUTPUT-ALTERNATOR-200-AMP-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b59f55a8QQitemZ140486071720QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_2888wt_1165


46 posted on 07/26/2011 1:22:17 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: thefactor

But with every other car, you either get a few hours until you run your 12-volt battery dead, or you get 8-12 hours because you run the car until you run out of gas.

The Prius can operate as a generator. It’s computers can turn the engine on and off as needed to charge the traction batteries, which then feed this power function. As it said, at 1.5 kw full load, it can run for about 48 hours before it runs out of gas.

It isn’t the most efficient generator — a generator would be the most efficient generator. But if you already own the car, it’s a free emergency generator that can power your home’s essential functions in a power failure situation.


47 posted on 07/26/2011 1:22:39 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Red Badger

My wife’s RAV4 has a 100 watt power outlet. Of what possible use is that ?


48 posted on 07/26/2011 1:23:07 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: thefactor

Is there any avaliable record yet that documents how many miles people have gone before having to change the batteries out? My understanding is they are guaranteed for 150k, and about 7 grand for new ones. Yah, I think even at 150,000 miles that 7k will eat up most if not all of the gas savings. However, maybe at 200 or 300k? Or, better yet, just sell the car at 149k...:)


49 posted on 07/26/2011 1:23:53 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: thefactor

I had one for a week when ford kicked me out of my van for a recall. It musta been broken because it had zip, zero, modda for power.

I got honked at trying to get on the highway.

Come to think of it. I honk AT THEM when they are trying to get on the highway.

So I dispute your claim that they have plenty of power. Unless you mean in the battery.


50 posted on 07/26/2011 1:25:03 PM PDT by cableguymn
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