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Holder Lied, Agents Died?
IBD Editorials ^ | July 26, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 07/26/2011 4:40:08 PM PDT by Kaslin

Scandal: As hearings reveal the attorney general to be either a charlatan or a boob, word comes of possible FBI complicity in letting guns "walk" into Mexico, ordered by an administration pushing gun control.

If there was any doubt that Project Gunrunner and its offshoot, Operation Fast and Furious, had little to do with stopping gun-trafficking into Mexico and a lot to do with creating an atmosphere for more gun control, it ended with the revelation by Fox News that two convicted felons were allowed to buy and move more than 300 guns into Mexico, something the FBI should have caught but didn't.

Under current federal law, people with felony convictions are not permitted to buy weapons, and those with felony arrests are typically flagged while the FBI conducts a thorough background check through its National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS).

According to court records reviewed by Fox News, two of the 20 defendants indicted in the Fast and Furious investigation — and, yes, there have been indictments — have felony convictions. Jacob Wayne Chambers and Sean Christopher Stewart obtained more than 360 weapons despite criminal records that should have prevented them from buying even one gun.

When asked about the breakdown, Stephen Fischer, a spokesman for the NICS System, said the FBI had no comment. We are not surprised. Since day one, you could here crickets chirp every time the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives or the Department of Justice was asked about an operation that got two U.S. agents killed.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; dea; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ibd; ibdguns; johndodson; obama

1 posted on 07/26/2011 4:40:10 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Gunrunner = IranContra X Watergate.

The MSM averts its eyes.


2 posted on 07/26/2011 4:44:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

OK lemme get this straight:

The FBI is charged with running NCIS with the goal of PREVENTING guns to reach criminals.

But:

The FBI instead accepted their pay while deliberately intervening to ASSURE that the most dangerous types of weapons reached the VERY WORST CRIMINALS.

Right?

Not that the system didn’t work, no, but that the people IN CHARGE of the system MADE SURE that it did NOT work.

Right?


3 posted on 07/26/2011 4:45:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kaslin

Most stinging and mainstream credible source to comment on this. When the IBD calls the US Attorney General a charlatan or boob, and backs it up with facts, it’s a very good day for America.


4 posted on 07/26/2011 4:49:14 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: gaijin

They wanted to show that the Second Amendment was past its due date and must be done away with.

The ends justify the means.


5 posted on 07/26/2011 4:50:33 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Kaslin

And I used to hate Ed Meese. I’d take a hundred Ed Meese’s over one Holder anyday.


6 posted on 07/26/2011 4:51:10 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Steely Tom
This administration thinks applying rules for radicals against the US Constitution is a valid tactic, even though they are sworn to defend the constitution.

Can they be prosecuted in any way shape or form for violating their sworn oath?

7 posted on 07/26/2011 4:54:13 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: blackdog

Ed Meese was a hundred times better then that criminal Holder


8 posted on 07/26/2011 4:54:24 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Travis McGee

> The MSM averts its eyes.

That’s because the big story, the really REALLY *REALLY* BIG story is Rupert Murdock!!

I mean, where’s your sense of history?

Where’s your sense of geometry?


9 posted on 07/26/2011 4:55:12 PM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Kaslin
The lies, the intimidation of witnesses, the administration denials — all are part of a cover-up strongly reminiscent of Watergate except for one thing: Nobody died at Watergate.

The entire article is dead on the money, especially the above.

10 posted on 07/26/2011 4:55:13 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: anyone

Is it possible that certain parties are dragging out the debt ceiling drama right now in part because that keeps the public eye off of the Fast and Furious investigation, which may eventually prove to be a very serious criminal enterprise involving a number of federal agencies and key figures of the current administration? The economy and our debt are extremely important - I am not discounting that. I am just wondering whether reports about Fast and Furious are pushed off the page by media on both the Left and Right because their attention is being directed to the exciting new daily developments in the debt and budget negotiations being orchestrated for them and for their audiences.


11 posted on 07/26/2011 4:55:28 PM PDT by Coyote Choir
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To: Kaslin

Even worse, Mexican kids died... yes I mean in Mexico! SHAME on the Bummer.


12 posted on 07/26/2011 4:59:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution!)
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To: Kaslin
people with felony convictions are not permitted to buy weapons

Why not? They if they have paid their debt they should be able to vote and buy guns, right!

/sarcasm

13 posted on 07/26/2011 5:07:20 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Coyote Choir

Yes, not only possible, but very likely the case.


14 posted on 07/26/2011 5:07:38 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Kaslin
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Any time a firearms-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "banglist" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it. Just a suggestion.

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15 posted on 07/26/2011 5:07:46 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Kaslin

For a better overview of “Operation Fast and Furious” visit:
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/david-codrea

Recent reports indicate the “odoure” permeates thru multiple levels of the Obama Administration. In consequence a lot of “feddies” appear to be getting “chilly in the arches”, talking to save their own bacon. Now, it appears we have the FBI running interference for a pair of “prohibited felons” enabling them to conduct multiple illegal purchases of weapons eventually ending up in the hands of criminal elements !

The multiple malfeasances of career and appointed officials concerning “OFF” is rapidly making Ollie North’s “loose canon” treatment of the “Iran-Contra” debacle seem like a kintergarten spat. >PS


16 posted on 07/26/2011 5:09:11 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: Kaslin; mickie
I wasn't listening too closely, but I think I heard Judge Napolitano say on "The Five" that he was going to have either two of the gun runners or two whistle-blower agents on his show tonight (Fox Business Network, 8 pm Central). Spn't know which.

Don't tar and feather me if I heard Da Judge incorrectly.

At any rate, I'm not going to miss it the program. I hope it's the gun runners. I listened to and watched Cong. Issa's congressional investigative committee today on the internet....it's darkly fascinating stuff, folks.

Leni

17 posted on 07/26/2011 5:10:01 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Those of Us who Work for a Living Support Those who Vote for a Living)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Let’s see.

Casey Anthony
Rupert Murdoch
Corrupt Teachers
Record Temperatures
Michelle Bachmann

This was more important than American Law Enforcement walking weapons into Mexico, getting our agents killed and promoting illegal immigration.

Screw the debt ceiling. Full court press on Holder.


18 posted on 07/26/2011 5:11:10 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law)
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To: Kaslin
that's pretty much it...
19 posted on 07/26/2011 5:19:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Kaslin

Did anyone see the hearings today where an ATF chief said that “sir, to my knowledge, no guns have walked” and where Isaa responded, “Sir, you hold to what you believe, we will hold to our facts’? =.=

Of course Holder is lying.
Of course the ATF and FBI are lying?
And be assured, of course, the White House will lie on this matter.


20 posted on 07/26/2011 5:43:00 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Kaslin
[ the attorney general to be either a charlatan or a boob, ]

-OR complicit in a brilliant conspiracy of financial destruction and legal malfeasance..
Maybe he's as stupid as a Fox.. effecting Americas morale..

21 posted on 07/26/2011 5:55:45 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Kaslin

Two agents and uncounted hundreds of Mexicans.


22 posted on 07/26/2011 7:07:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: gaijin

You have it. The goal of the operation was NOT to stop gunrunning into Mexico. The goal of the operation was to increase the number of guns found at crime scenes in Mexico so that the president could claim that more gun control was needed and he did not care how many agents and innocent Mexicans were murdered with those guns.

A special prosecutor has not been appointed because his net would catch dozens of ATF and FBI agents as well as Holder and Obama himself.


23 posted on 07/26/2011 7:23:16 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Gun control ping


24 posted on 07/26/2011 7:54:04 PM PDT by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: Kaslin

George Bush dit it.

/s/

IMHO


25 posted on 07/27/2011 4:27:18 AM PDT by ripley
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To: cranked

Of course Holder is lying.
Of course the ATF and FBI are lying?
And be assured, of course, the White House will lie on this matter.

But we are trying Roger Clemens for lying to Congress.


26 posted on 07/27/2011 4:41:42 AM PDT by csmusaret (If abortion is a choice, let the fetus decide.)
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To: blackdog

Ed Meese was the best AG of our lifetime- perhaps, ever.


27 posted on 07/27/2011 6:52:18 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: csmusaret

Government is never liable.
Government is never held accountable.
In most cases to none, you can’t sue the Government; what’s that tell you? Hence, let’s try Clemens for purjury and not Holder, etc. =.=


28 posted on 07/27/2011 8:48:31 AM PDT by cranked
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To: raptor22

Thanks for the ping.


29 posted on 07/27/2011 7:21:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (Honk if I'm paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
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