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U.S. to Take Another Look at Gay Blood Donation Ban
National Journal ^ | 7/26/11 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 07/26/2011 6:29:31 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum
Men who have sex with other men, including gay and bisexual men, have an HIV infection rate 60 times higher than that of the general population.

If you exclude intravenous drug users, I would bet that the rate of infection for gay men is 300 or more times higher than the general public.

51 posted on 07/26/2011 8:10:27 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: JimmyMc

My GF is an RN who originally worked in Vancouver, BC. The AIDS ward had only ONE nurse, and no one wanted the shift. Because of her seniority in the union, my GF was able to position herself not to take the shift. It’s the most depressing department and ALL the patients were gays. More depressing than the Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s wards.


52 posted on 07/26/2011 8:10:56 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: meatloaf

Yes. But it’s been 25 years and I think we would have exhibited symptoms by now. Although we do go to Britain yearly and we do eat beef. Hyped up ridiculousness.


53 posted on 07/26/2011 8:15:58 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: meatloaf

Yes. But it’s been 25 years and I think we would have exhibited symptoms by now. Although we do go to Britain yearly and we do eat beef. Hyped up ridiculousness.


54 posted on 07/26/2011 8:16:10 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Nachum
Just when I think I've seen and heard it all, some insanity like this pops up. There's just no end to the stupidity that queers and their minions (liberals) can come up with.
55 posted on 07/26/2011 8:20:45 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Simplistic answers to complex problems never work and are only proposed by simple people.)
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To: Nachum

This is what liberal governments do at all levels. Waste time and money on left wing endeavors that hurt people.


56 posted on 07/26/2011 8:20:57 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: mewzilla

mu thoughts too. i once worked for a company for 3 months in England only to find out later that i can’t give blood anymore.


57 posted on 07/26/2011 8:33:36 PM PDT by patriot5186
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To: mewzilla

mu thoughts too. i once worked for a company for 3 months in England only to find out later that i can’t give blood anymore.


58 posted on 07/26/2011 8:33:51 PM PDT by patriot5186
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To: Nachum

Rest in peace, Ryan White.


59 posted on 07/26/2011 8:40:22 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Boehner, you B@st@rd!)
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To: Nachum
Men who have sex with other men, including gay and bisexual men, have an HIV infection rate 60 times higher than that of the general population

60 times higher! Heaven forbid though that we should call it the queer disease.

60 posted on 07/26/2011 8:42:14 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Simplistic answers to complex problems never work and are only proposed by simple people.)
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To: Nachum

I don’t want pink blood that is full of homoglobin...


61 posted on 07/26/2011 8:44:02 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Nachum

Is there not any way to get rid of the Marxist POS in the White House before he completes destroying the country?


62 posted on 07/26/2011 8:44:24 PM PDT by Marathoner (Government schools = Marxist indoctrination centers)
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To: fwdude
Sure, the homos can lie, but a sane society would make the detection of infection after the pretense of qualification by a homosexual a felony punishable by imprisonment.

Agreed. I'm on the side of banning this group entirely, just as other groups (e.g. IV drug users) are banned.

Speaking of IV drug use, when I donate (every eight weeks, I have a blood type that's in demand and the blood bank loves to call me) they check my bare forearms as part of the health interview.

63 posted on 07/26/2011 9:07:22 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Nachum

OK. Give fags the right to donate blood.

Stick the large dull needle directly in the penis, suck out two gallons of blood, and flush it all down the toilet with some Clorox. If they live, I dont think they will want to visit the blood clinic again!


64 posted on 07/26/2011 9:14:17 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: Nachum

Great idea, just mark the blood for use only on Congress people, the POTUS and other high Federal officials.


65 posted on 07/26/2011 9:14:42 PM PDT by Kent1957
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To: Amadeo

Well, I understand the anger, but if a lot of healthy donors stop giving, then some poor person who needs blood will be that much more likely to get something bad from a transfusion.


66 posted on 07/26/2011 9:18:38 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: eclecticEel

Yes, and that includes Hepatitis C.


67 posted on 07/26/2011 9:19:28 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Nachum

This is frightening. I know a young man who needs to get blood at least several times a year to stay healthy. This makes me want to cry.


68 posted on 07/26/2011 9:37:55 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: GeronL

Of course, you certainly aren’t allowed to say or portray any homosexuals in a bad light in Western Civilization anymore (truth not allowed).

No Christian thinking allowed!!!! No Christian worldview allowed, although it is what made Europe great and their later adoption of “God is Dead” delivered the reign of Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pot, Mussolini, etc....100,000,000 murdered, but that’s ok with “let’s try man’s standard of right and wrong again, Brown”...

America the most perfect and free government in history based on the idea of Just Law and Supra Positive Law and Brown thinks he is more intelligent than the Founding Fathers genius combined?????? and his is the highest law of the land....is he claiming himself “god”?

God’s standard of Right and Wrong is the Rule of Law—Just Law—in AMERICAN legal system up until Legal Positivism and the Progressive/Socialists twisted the meaning and intent of the Constitution with Holmsian (non) logic....and the start of this Rule of Man instead of the Rule of Law.

—the Bible is now hate speech (No first Amendment for Christian children in public schools NONE!!!!!.....Forced agenda in public schools to indoctrinate young children into thinking the unnatural is “natural”...up is down—so they will believe any lies the Marxists spin....no God views—cuz you have NO natural rights cuz that comes from God.

By Jerry—teach little kids all about sodomy so they think it’s cool and not icky and try it—monkey see, monkey do— Brown.

BTW, how many children did Jerry raise? and does he even have any genetic interest in the future—any grandchildren? Shouldn’t men with only an interest in here and now, not be allowed to be a politician which affects the future of civilization? Maybe there should be laws against people holding office who don’t take part in raising children since they don’t understand how their stupid laws and regulations will affect the thinking of children.....such a profound power for people who can’t understand the consequence of their actions.

Genetic ties give a person an interest in leaving a better country for posterity-—but not if you have no children or ties to “family” ==what the Marxists are trying to deliberately destroy—the support system needed to defy government totalitarianism. They want power and to dictate what little johnny is allowed to think....yes, sodomy is what they want to put into his mind so they can create a playground for themselves with the children. (Pink Swastika)and Marcuse. Evil is afoot again....guess it always has been—it just has total control of government now.


69 posted on 07/26/2011 10:26:10 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: liberalism is suicide

It will help validate themselves and make them feel less filthy as they drag everyone else into their sewer. It is the nature of evil, to want company.


70 posted on 07/26/2011 10:28:07 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: Nachum

Someone in England just got Hepatitis B because the Brits thought having homosexuals donate organs would be a good idea.

It’s just a waste of money. The blood screening assays will kick out practically all of homosexuals’ donated blood so it can’t be used.


71 posted on 07/26/2011 10:35:14 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: max americana
I had 2 friends die of AIDS. It is not a pretty site. But when is dieing ever a pretty site.
Oh, I am straight. But they were friends anyway.
72 posted on 07/26/2011 10:36:57 PM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: Pining_4_TX

My mother died from Hepatitis she got from tainted blood during a blood transfusion. She got the transfusion in 1970 and her liver finally gave out in 1991. I think I’m going to be against this one.


73 posted on 07/26/2011 10:40:16 PM PDT by socal_parrot (I hate to say I told you so, but...)
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To: originalbuckeye

Apparently BSE hasn’t disappeared in Britain.

http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publicationsandstatistics/Publications/PublicationsPolicyAndGuidance/DH_112073


74 posted on 07/26/2011 10:54:33 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: NYer

This is all part of the homosexual agenda.


75 posted on 07/26/2011 11:35:06 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: savagesusie

As the old saying goes:”misery loves company”. How can they call such wretched behavior “gay”?


76 posted on 07/26/2011 11:46:36 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: liberalism is suicide

It is what Marxist’s do....control the language—twist the meaning of words and they can posit the ideas that they want into the next generation.

Kids hear “gay” think fun....they hear “choice” they think freedom, not kill.

They need to change the word “marriage” so they can condition children into thinking there is no difference between having two daddies and a mommy and daddy.

They have to destroy natural instincts and pervert the object of sexual desire—so they can design man in their own image and destroy the idea of “the laws of nature and Nature’s God the foundation of Freedom. Can’t be free if we are ruled by man. Rule of Law (freedom) requires Supra Positive law—a higher power than man’s made up standard of right and wrong.

it is all about controlling what and how children think....to a dysfunctional, addictive state of no solid relationships where nanny government takes care of all the needs even raising the children so they are conditioned to think properly.


77 posted on 07/27/2011 12:01:38 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: originalbuckeye

Here’s a link to the updated statistics. Note that it appears there’s a roughly constant level of vCJD cases per year.

http://www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/figures.htm


78 posted on 07/27/2011 12:25:43 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Nachum
HHS asked a committee of experts on blood and tissue donations to reexamine the policy and see if there is a way to let at least some gays donate blood.

Some gays? We need blood diversity now? When people start contracting blood diseases who gets sued?

We have lost all common sense as a country.

79 posted on 07/27/2011 2:49:40 AM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Truth29

“unless you have enough time to bring your own donors “

Unless they can guarantee you that you’ll receive the exact blood of the donors you’ve lined up, that may not be the answer. I think they just take those people’s blood and stockpile it in the bank, and you may or may not receive that blood. It’s considered to be donated for you, but it’s on behalf of you in reality. (Anyhow, that’s what I was told when I did our blood drives at the office years ago.)


80 posted on 07/27/2011 5:22:10 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: max americana

“More depressing than the Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s wards.”

I can’t imagine it being more depressing than Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s. The majority of the AIDS patients have engaged in risky lifestyles that they know will most likely result in their deaths — and deaths of others. The other groups are there due to twists of fate.


81 posted on 07/27/2011 5:29:04 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Nachum

But.....but...but.....HOW can what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom affect ANYONE else? /s


82 posted on 07/27/2011 6:35:15 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: LostInBayport

“So when liberals contract some vile illness because of a change in this policy, will they smile and “celebrate diversity” as their lives are cut short by said vile illness?”

The elites will have “private” or directed blood transfusions. You...... Not so much. Ever wonder how Arthur Ashe got aids????


83 posted on 07/27/2011 6:36:58 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I have a family member who has Alzheimer’s. With AIDS patients, they know who’s visiting them. With Alzheimer’s, the patient does not have a clue who the family members visiting them are..now which scenario is more painful emotionally?

50 billion and counting for AIDS research while other diseases like Lou Gehrig or breast cancer are not given the time of day due to pc..unbelievable.


84 posted on 07/27/2011 8:40:36 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Nachum

Pandering to faggotry has reached the level of purposefully polluting the nation’s blood supply ?


85 posted on 07/27/2011 8:47:04 AM PDT by jimt
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86 posted on 07/27/2011 8:49:51 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Nachum

Totally insane.


87 posted on 07/27/2011 1:15:26 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Nachum
Here's an article discussing this same debate in 2010.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/11/panel-votes-keep-restrictions-gay-blood-donations/?page=1

"The policies are intended to reduce the risk of known and unknown infections that could be passed to blood recipients, said Mr. Skinner. The issue of emerging pathogens is real, he added. 'We don’t know what the next HIV will be.'" [Emphasis added]

Good point. Another AIDS is bound to spring from these degenerates.

88 posted on 07/27/2011 5:13:53 PM PDT by fwdude
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Fwdude's comment 88 notes that homosexuals have so many horrible diseases (and parasites) that AIDS is just one of the many that can be passed via blood transfusions. Homosexual activists have wanted AIDS to get into the general population for a long time - remember "AIDS isn't a "gay" disease! You're all at risk!!!" and other nonsense? Anal sex is particularly good at spreading AIDS no matter who engages in such perversion. It is the plain truth that the vast majority of AIDS cases are directly or indirectly related to homosexuals.

89 posted on 07/27/2011 9:53:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Not only other diseases, but various permutation of HIV itself, which is always mutating. The HIV of today won’t be the HIV of tomorrow.


90 posted on 07/27/2011 10:24:37 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: prairiebreeze

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91 posted on 07/28/2011 5:35:54 AM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: GeronL

So, now they want to spread disease?”

Newsflash: Male homos are the #1 vector for the spread of infectious diseases and the development of antibiotic resistant strains. This is precisely why there are so many questions about homo sex for blood donors.


92 posted on 07/28/2011 7:19:31 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This is all part of the homo agenda and they have been pushing this since the 90s.


93 posted on 07/28/2011 7:26:09 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: MayflowerMadam

I did that before my hip replacement surgery. It works well if you have scheduled surgery and have the time, but in an emergency, what can you do?””

You can also get a normal relative to donate.


94 posted on 07/28/2011 7:28:32 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: eclecticEel

Finally, the public health issues posed by the #1 infectious disease vector, male homosexuals, not females-—highest incidence of HIV/AIDS, syphilis, drug-resistant gonorrhea, entamoeba histolytica, chlamydia, herpes simplex II, Chancroid, Drug Resistant TB, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis non A & B, just to name a few. Hollywood and the press, of course, never discuss the CDC facts, but if you want to look for yourself the information is in the scientific literature.


95 posted on 07/28/2011 7:31:09 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: JimmyMc

I had 2 friends die of AIDS. It is not a pretty site. But when is dieing ever a pretty site.
Oh, I am straight. But they were friends anyway.”

You might be wise to better pick your friends. I knew two queers that died of AIDS and one was also a known pederast—this obsession with young boys is a part of the lifestyle. Beware of sleeping next to a dog with fleas for you are likely to come away with the same ectoparasite.


96 posted on 07/28/2011 7:40:54 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: savagesusie

Bingo and hear, hear.


97 posted on 07/28/2011 7:44:03 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Nachum

Agenda 21, depopulate. Cut off water to the bread basket of CA/EPA, taxpayers paying for more abortions for others (add non-reporting of rapes/molestations and deaths due to sepsis on death certs, not abortion), swine flu shots, gardisil killing girls, keep the jails full and spread the hate, the deathcare bill (it wasn’t only Schiavo starved to death who had no terminal disease), seed purchase regulations (and GMOs), bring in migrants... dangerous ones, who rape, gang bang, kill, use up resources/triple populate/all forms of jihad, next will be polygamy (thanks gay ‘marriage’), feminize the boys in school (Title), gay up the military and give sex changes to inmates (at your cost), oh and the viagra courtesy of Hill and Schumer in the past to inmates (more rape).

Now not only are your children forced to think they’re gay, they want to give straights AIDS as well.

We need a huge, secure star chamber folks.


98 posted on 07/28/2011 10:21:26 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. For all the latest, check out: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: LostInBayport

Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of it’s stated intent - Jim Quinn.


99 posted on 07/28/2011 10:24:43 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. For all the latest, check out: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: liberalism is suicide
Will they finally be satisfied when half the world is queer and the other half is infected with AIDS?

Post of the day.

100 posted on 07/28/2011 3:12:42 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
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