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The Cult That Is Destroying America (Krugman :"Obama is a conservative")
NY times Opinion ^ | July 26, 2011 | Paul Krugman

Posted on 07/26/2011 8:32:13 PM PDT by sickoflibs

Watching our system deal with the debt ceiling crisis — a wholly self-inflicted crisis, which may nonetheless have disastrous consequences — it’s increasingly obvious that what we’re looking at is the destructive influence of a cult that has really poisoned our political system.

And no, I don’t mean the fanaticism of the right. Well, OK, that too. But my feeling about those people is that they are what they are; you might as well denounce wolves for being carnivores. Crazy is what they do and what they are.

No, the cult that I see as reflecting a true moral failure is the cult of balance, of centrism.

Think about what’s happening right now. We have a crisis in which the right is making insane demands, while the president and Democrats in Congress are bending over backward to be accommodating — offering plans that are all spending cuts and no taxes, plans that are far to the right of public opinion.

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The reality, of course, is that we already have a centrist president — actually a moderate conservative president. Once again, health reform — his only major change to government — was modeled on Republican plans, indeed plans coming from the Heritage Foundation. And everything else — including the wrongheaded emphasis on austerity in the face of high unemployment — is according to the conservative playbook.

(Excerpt) Read more at krugman.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: business; debt; dementalillness; economy; krugman; leftuniverse
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Obama is "a moderate conservative president" .

Obama-care was a conservative bill created by the Heritage Foundation. LOL

1 posted on 07/26/2011 8:32:18 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

Yo Paul, I think you are diseased.


2 posted on 07/26/2011 8:35:33 PM PDT by umgud
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To: sickoflibs
...while the president and Democrats in Congress are bending over backward to be accommodating...

Krugman is delusional. Where does he get his news? PMSNBC or the Algore Channel?

3 posted on 07/26/2011 8:36:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Barry! Compromise this!!!)
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To: LMAO; DeaconBenjamin; April Lexington; murphE; RipSawyer; Tunehead54; preacher; 1234; coloradan; ...
The Peter Schiff/Austrian Economics ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

Krugman is anti-Austrian which is why I get a kick out of him.

4 posted on 07/26/2011 8:37:05 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

Paul is a very sick man. He needs medical attention right away.


5 posted on 07/26/2011 8:37:28 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: sickoflibs

Tertiary syphilis is bad JuJu.

Apparently.


6 posted on 07/26/2011 8:38:12 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik ("The trouble with internet quotations is you don't know if they are true"-Abraham Lincoln.)
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To: sickoflibs

Krugman needs a rubber room. Reality is entirely absent in Krugman’s world.


7 posted on 07/26/2011 8:38:34 PM PDT by DB
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To: Parley Baer

If conservatives are wolfes, liberals are vampires.


8 posted on 07/26/2011 8:39:05 PM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This lunatic probably thinks Hugo Chavez and Castro are right wingers too.


9 posted on 07/26/2011 8:39:14 PM PDT by Bobalu (He who is compassionate to the cruel will ultimately become cruel to the compassionate)
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To: sickoflibs

>>The reality, of course, is that we already have a centrist president — actually a moderate conservative president<<

And he carries the torch of historical moderate conservatives such as Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, and. of course, that conservative humanitarian Joey Stalin.

barry’s desire about what to do about his “Jewish Problem” also follows that famous conservative Hitler, who barry admires from afar and whose work barry wants to complete.


10 posted on 07/26/2011 8:40:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: sickoflibs

Paul Krugman proves once again, that Keynesisan (Communism-lite) economics are fraudulent and ficticious...Obama is a “moderate”?

People need to understand that the Left does move the goalposts in language, culture, morality and ultimately, in removing unwanted parts of history they want to erase.

Krugman is an intellectual, yes, but his entire world is incorrect and a fantasyland of faculty lounge and dinner party madness that comes from a trust fund, movie script or tenured professorship.

He is ruling class, like Obama, with no f*ing clue.


11 posted on 07/26/2011 8:40:30 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: wac3rd
RE :"Obama is a “moderate”?"

He said a "moderate conservative".

:)

12 posted on 07/26/2011 8:43:18 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

To paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson, Krugman is full-blown, batpoop crazy.


13 posted on 07/26/2011 8:43:35 PM PDT by hometoroost (Per Oceander: The only guarantees in life are death, taxes, and stupidity.)
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To: sickoflibs

evil.


14 posted on 07/26/2011 8:43:35 PM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: sickoflibs

Krugman gets invited to all the important dinners and parties because he says what the liberals want to hear. It doesn’t have to make sense. It just has to support the failing liberal philosophy.


15 posted on 07/26/2011 8:43:39 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: sickoflibs

The Left mis-quotes a 1990’s study done by the HF. Rush read it earlier this year, it’s another flat ass lie by the Communists.


16 posted on 07/26/2011 8:44:11 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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Krugman's lies are almost as laughable as Ubama.
17 posted on 07/26/2011 8:44:28 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: sickoflibs

I wonder how far up the ass one’s head has to be in order to see obama as a conservative.

Krugman is offal.


18 posted on 07/26/2011 8:44:40 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: DB


19 posted on 07/26/2011 8:46:50 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: sickoflibs
Well, one think Boehner has done...he's gotten the left spitting fire about the deal; they're even talking about a primary opponent for the Won now.

A lovely thing to watch.

20 posted on 07/26/2011 8:47:27 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: sickoflibs

Well, Bambi has a record now and it is broken beyond repair. Maybe America’s conservatives will understand he’s always been on the side of the Constitution.

It’s all Baseball, Hotdogs, Apple-Pie and Chevrolet, right Bambi.........


21 posted on 07/26/2011 8:49:47 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Rocky

I guess when you have a black maid, a Mexican gardener and a French au pair, with $50 million on ice at Northern Trust from great-granddaddy’s 50 years of sweat, stress and success...Krugman fills your self-loathing self with sugarplum fantasies of “chickens in pots” and “to each as to his need” and you quickly thumb past NYT pages desribing the starving masses in North Korea and the failed European Nanny State...

“Please pass the Bordeaux, Mr. Krugman, how do you like the ‘61, Sir...?” (using my best Glenn Beck pipeman voice).


22 posted on 07/26/2011 8:49:52 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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This is really sad. Krugman is a professor at an esteemed US college. He has to know that there is not one example, either today or in history, of successful socialism on a large scale. It has failed everywhere it has been tried and one need not look farther than across the pond to see how it has made Europe almost irrelevant. Europe is a continent where businesses sell to one another. No grand innovations on a global scale ala Microsoft, Boeing, or even Walmart. He reaches a wide audience and is beloved by leftists across the country. Go figure.....


23 posted on 07/26/2011 8:51:36 PM PDT by JudyM
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To: sickoflibs
Krugman is a laughing stock. That little creep has no idea what he is babbling about other than he hates the right and with there were no elections so geniuses like Obummer can get thing right, unopposed.


24 posted on 07/26/2011 8:58:35 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Parley Baer; DB; Bobalu

The “disastrous consequences” he speaks of are entirely possible, as a reaction to the delusional policies he and his ilk promote. It almost makes you wish for the collapse so that these sickos riding the government-academic merry-go-round would be thrown off and have to get real jobs to survive.


25 posted on 07/26/2011 8:59:12 PM PDT by ngat
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To: sickoflibs

I was just think that in the Obama/liberals version of the Story Of The Prodigal Son when the younger son returns to his Father he returns to ask for more inheritance money.


26 posted on 07/26/2011 9:00:21 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: sickoflibs

And, to think, that Biffy’s and Buffy’s parents spend $50,000 a year to attend Princeton, just to hear this asswipe, and A-hole Blinder, muddle their young brains.
Amazing!


27 posted on 07/26/2011 9:01:32 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: sickoflibs

Not having out of control debt and deficits is an insane demand??


28 posted on 07/26/2011 9:02:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: JudyM

Ask Mr Krugman why poverty was at 14% in 1964 and is at 14% in 2011. He cannot educate his butt out of that one.


29 posted on 07/26/2011 9:02:19 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: sickoflibs
Austerity is not a conservative idea, nor conservative policy. Krugman of course means limited government is de facto austerity, which is nonsense.

Conservatives would turn the engine of production back where it belongs, the people. Krugman wishes to continue the discredited notion of government spending and taxing us into prosperity. Which has never happened, despite numerous failed attempts.

30 posted on 07/26/2011 9:03:46 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: freedumb2003

Look at the “scenery” when Hitler made his speech as he took charge. Then look at the “scenery” when obama took charge in Denver and officially opened the “Office of the President Elect”.

You, me and the rest of the Jews (conservatives) are a problem to him and his National Socialist Party. They truly do want to get rid of all opposition.


31 posted on 07/26/2011 9:09:07 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: sickoflibs

Not nice of him to take advantage of the stupidity of the obama voter. LOL


32 posted on 07/26/2011 9:12:14 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: eyedigress
Ask Mr Krugman why poverty was at 14% in 1964 and is at 14% in 2011. He cannot educate his butt out of that one.

When Alexis de Toqueville toured the USA in 1831, he observed that one in seven households lived in poverty and squalor.

Even though they lived in the midst of plenty, in a land that was literally full of opportunity, one in seven Americans were unwilling to take advantage of what was there for the doing.

One in seven = 14%.

33 posted on 07/26/2011 9:15:17 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: sickoflibs

Yes, the cult of twisted, crosseyed dwarves who think they know what the hell they are talking about is leading us over a cliff. A cliff of spectacular vistas, from whence wonderful panoramas and scenarios are visible. But what the Krugmans and Friedmans of the world do not realize is that when you jump off that cliff by way of celebration, you end up smashed into a bloody pool of quivering tissue just as if you jumped off a really, really ugly cliff when the floor of the valley rushes up and crushes you.


34 posted on 07/26/2011 9:17:36 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both sides need to put aside the partisan bickering, & work out how much free stuff I get)
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To: umgud

I think he has a closet full of high heels, and several drawers full of pink lingerie. JMO.


35 posted on 07/26/2011 9:19:00 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: okie01

A lib will never understand. God commands us to help the poor.

The Government can never help the poor.


36 posted on 07/26/2011 9:22:34 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: sickoflibs

Isn’t Krugman the same goof that said Sarah Palin murdered Congresswoman Giffords?


37 posted on 07/26/2011 9:23:04 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: sickoflibs

Paul Krugman mainly admires the Chinese fascism. Somebody gets in the way of The State Plan, POW, shot in the neck.

Real efficient like.


38 posted on 07/26/2011 9:24:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: wac3rd
"$50 million on ice at Northern Trust from great-granddaddy"

Why doesn't he give it to the government????

Is he handicapped? Can't he make a living?

39 posted on 07/26/2011 9:26:17 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: sickoflibs
Krugman’s gig is that he creates complex mathematical arguments for liberalism. As an economist he works to create arguments for redistribution. Even with half the country not paying taxes he says raise taxes on the wealthy. With Tarp and stimulus obviously doing little for the poor, he writes theories on why billions more must be spent on stimulus. Liberal economic professors all over the country adore him. If spending continues to slow a few professors and academic types will be out of work.
40 posted on 07/26/2011 9:27:03 PM PDT by alrea
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“...Democrats in Congress are bending over backward to be accommodating (lie) — offering plans (lie) that are all spending cuts (lie) and no taxes (lie), plans that are far to the right of public opinion (lie).”

Five lies in three lines. He’s slipping a bit.


41 posted on 07/26/2011 9:28:15 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: sickoflibs
Watching our system deal with the debt ceiling crisis — a wholly self-inflicted crisis, which may nonetheless have disastrous consequences — it’s increasingly obvious that what we’re looking at is the destructive influence of a cult that has really poisoned our political system.

Would those be the folks who chanted -"0-ba-ma", "0-ba-ma", Paulie? You're right, they reminded me of a really creepy cult.

And no, I don’t mean the fanaticism of the right. Well, OK, that too. But my feeling about those people is that they are what they are; you might as well denounce wolves for being carnivores. Crazy is what they do and what they are.

So we're not going get a piece of thinking from you, the thing you want us to do a few paragraphs down. My feeling about you is similar: You might as well denounce Krugman for being an ignorant Marxist. Nothing crazy about it, really, it's what he does and the American people categorically reject it.

No, the cult that I see as reflecting a true moral failure is the cult of balance, of centrism.

Think about what’s happening right now. We have a crisis in which the right is making insane demands, while the president and Democrats in Congress are bending over backward to be accommodating — offering plans that are all spending cuts and no taxes, plans that are far to the right of public opinion.

No, Paulie, these are not insane demands. What is insane is defending an entity that takes in $6 billion a day and borrows $4 billion above that. Every day. E-v-e-r-y d-a-y. Got it, Paulie? You are saying it is insane to demand that this piece of mathematical impossibility stop is "insane"? That would make you...pathologically delusional? Retarded? What's the word?

So what do most news reports say? They portray it as a situation in which both sides are equally partisan, equally intransigent — because news reports always do that. And we have influential pundits calling out for a new centrist party, a new centrist president, to get us away from the evils of partisanship.

Yes, let's consult news reports because they are so accurate, so accountable, and if they lead us astray, they'll be there to apologize...? More Paulie smartness.

The reality, of course, is that we already have a centrist president — actually a moderate conservative president. Once again, health reform — his only major change to government — was modeled on Republican plans, indeed plans coming from the Heritage Foundation. And everything else — including the wrongheaded emphasis on austerity in the face of high unemployment — is according to the conservative playbook.

You're not qualified to discuss reality, Paulie. You've already established that. But that's cool, misstate half a dozen other things too. Once you've proven yourself batshit crazy, what's a few more delusions thrown into the mix?

What all this means is that there is no penalty for extremism; no way for most voters, who get their information on the fly rather than doing careful study of the issues, to understand what’s really going on.

Thanks, I'll read the NYTimes to get my version of the truth, that what's you're saying?" Do I puke or laugh in your face?

You have to ask, what would it take for these news organizations and pundits to actually break with the convention that both sides are equally at fault? This is the clearest, starkest situation one can imagine short of civil war. If this won’t do it, nothing will.

And yes, I think this is a moral issue. The “both sides are at fault” people have to know better; if they refuse to say it, it’s out of some combination of fear and ego, of being unwilling to sacrifice their treasured pose of being above the fray.

It’s a terrible thing to watch, and our nation will pay the price.

If the ravings of a proven lunatic unfortunately elevated to a position of commentator in a widely read newspaper that once had some credibility had any usefulness, people would listen. As things are, it's a gimme for Paul Krugman that he can say so many goofball things at once. Once you've shown yourself batshit crazy, what difference does it make if you blather four or five more pieces of blather?

42 posted on 07/26/2011 9:35:37 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both sides need to put aside the partisan bickering, & work out how much free stuff I get)
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To: sickoflibs

Didn’t he work for Tass news Agency way back when???


43 posted on 07/26/2011 9:58:19 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: sickoflibs
Paul are you out of your mind? Obama is a Conservative?

You are known by who you associate with.

Obama’s close friend and confidante Bill Ayers wants to destroy this nation and murder thirty million Americans who don't agree with him.

Obama sought out Marxist professors during his college years.

Obama Sat in Reverend Wrights “Church” for twenty years.

Obama Has hired numerous czars, many of which profess being Communist, Marxist, Marxist socialist or Socialist.

Obama is not far left. He is radical left. When you look at his policies, he is Marxist Socialist.

The only one who might see Obama as a moderate conservative would have to be extreme radical Communist, far far far far left. Is that your problem Paul?

44 posted on 07/26/2011 10:09:14 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Actually, Krugman is a genius here. He knows how to push Obama’s buttons and he’s doing it. The left is calling Obama out. It’s a sham of course, they will support him again as soon as this farce ends. This is all just part of the negotiating process for Krugman and the like.


45 posted on 07/26/2011 10:21:23 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Throw away your papers, blow up your TV...and set yourself free.)
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To: sickoflibs

Is there a single true statement in this screed?


46 posted on 07/26/2011 10:23:52 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: sickoflibs
Hmm... Kruggie has finally gone insane. God does work in a mysterious way.:-)
47 posted on 07/26/2011 10:35:49 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: sickoflibs

Krugman is a frigging academic economist. You could read an entire year of his columns, and if you didn’t know it was Krugman, it would never dawn on you that he had any more economic knowledge than theater critic Frank Rich.


48 posted on 07/26/2011 10:45:59 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: sickoflibs

Krugman is attaching the words “conservative playbook” to Obama’s failures for obvious and desperate reasons.
He has no balls to say that Obama is a failure period.


49 posted on 07/26/2011 10:46:42 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: sickoflibs

Hey Krudman...when your sicko economics fail...just admit it....you look like a fool.


50 posted on 07/26/2011 10:47:22 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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