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To: lentulusgracchus
The last time i used the word ordoliberalism was in my last work at university about german ordoliberalism i guess it was Eucken an i do not know if i ever used the word marxism before.

Ideology or to use a more positive word values are a good thing but this is not a classroom the university or a church we are talking about here.

It´s a serious economic crisis and huge structural problems. It´s not the time for general debate or ideology. It´s time to unite and get together and find a solution for all people for the complete country.

The deficit is insane and everybody with a clear mind knows that both things are needed less spending and higher taxes.

The political debate should perhaps be about the how not the if. The question is where to cut and which taxes to increase how much.

71 posted on 07/27/2011 6:57:42 AM PDT by flambo
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To: flambo
everybody with a clear mind knows that both things are needed less spending and higher taxes

Nonsense. Lower spending -- of course that's true. But higher taxes? No way. The government doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem, one that has not been created by the current Administration, but certainly exacerbated by it (and the Democrat Congress over the previous 2 years) by tripling the annual deficit.

And even if revenue were the problem, higher taxes do not equate to higher revenue. There's already a ton of money sitting unproductive on the sidelines instead of being invested into economic growth because the capital holders are being punished for success and are being threatened with even more punishment in the future. Lower the taxes and the regulatory burdens (e.g., Obamacare mandates) and investment in business will return, which leads to more jobs, more profits, and a larger tax base.

72 posted on 07/27/2011 9:04:17 AM PDT by kevkrom (This space for rent.)
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To: flambo
The deficit is insane and everybody with a clear mind knows that both things are needed less spending and higher taxes.

Wrongo ace. Now is the EXACT time for idealogy. Raising taxes is an idealogical event is it not? The US Govt taks in 200B / month. The Feds have a spending problem not an income problem.

For revenue we need to exact a tribute from europe for the Marshall Plan and defending their lazy socizaliastr asses for 50 years.

74 posted on 07/27/2011 10:48:06 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: flambo

socizaliastr = socialist


75 posted on 07/27/2011 10:50:08 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: flambo

socizaliastr = socialist


76 posted on 07/27/2011 10:50:08 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: flambo

The higher taxes will crush any hopes of an economic recovery.

Even the Democrats agreed when they extended the Bush tax cuts earlier this year.


78 posted on 07/27/2011 10:56:52 AM PDT by listenhillary (2007 deficit 160 Billion, 2008 - 458 billion, 2009 -1.4 Trillion, 2010 - 1.6 Trillion)
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