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Right Out of Atlas Shrugged’..Exasperated AL Businessman Tell Feds – ‘I’m Just Quitting’
The Blaze ^ | 7-26-11 | Dave Urbanski

Posted on 07/26/2011 11:32:26 PM PDT by STARWISE

Complete title:

Right Out of Atlas Shrugged’: Hear an Exasperated Alabama Businessman Tell the Feds – ‘I’m Just Quitting’

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Leaning against a wall during a recent Birmingham, Alabama, public hearing, Bryant listened to an overflow crowd pepper federal officials with concerns about businesses polluting the drinking water and causing cases of cancer.

After two hours, Bryant—a coal mine owner from Jasper—had heard enough and, in a moment being described as “right out of Atlas Shrugged,” took his turn at the microphone:

Audio .. (turn up volume)

(note from audio site: For readers of my website, this is the audio of Ronnie Bryant at a public meeting in Birmingham on July 20, 2011. The recording was made on my iPad just to have a record of correct quotes, so the audio quality is poor since it wasn't intended for broadcast purposes.)

Transcript:

Nearly every day without fail…men stream to these [mining] operations looking for work in Walker County. They can’t pay their mortgage.

They can’t pay their car note. They can’t feed their families. They don’t have health insurance. And as I stand here today, I just…you know…what’s the use?

I got a permit to open up an underground coal mine that would employ probably 125 people. They’d be paid wages from $50,000 to $150,000 a year. We would consume probably $50 million to $60 million in consumables a year, putting more men to work.

And my only idea today is to go home. What’s the use? I see these guys—I see them with tears in their eyes—looking for work. And if there’s so much opposition to these guys making a living, I feel like there’s no need in me putting out the effort to provide work for them.

So…basically what I’ve decided is not to open the mine. I’m just quitting. Thank you.”

The Blaze contacted Bryant, and he remains as resolute as he was at last week’s public hearing. To him, it’s just not worth the time, money, and regulatory hassle to open up a new mine—even one located in a remote area with less environmental impact.


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Obama’s EPA Regulations Will Cost Coal Industry $180 Billion & Cause Electricity Rates to Skyrocket

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Worst. President. Ever. In January 2008 Barack Obama told the San Francisco Chronicle:

“Under my plan of a cap and trade system electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Businesses would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that cost onto consumers.”

He promised that his plan would cause electricity rates to skyrocket.

He wasn’t kidding.

In January the Obama Administration, for the first time ever, blocked an already approved bid to build one of the largest mountaintop removal coal mines in Appalachian history.

And, on Wednesday it was reported that Obama’s energy plans will cause electricity rates to necessarily skyrocket…

Just as he promised.

Via US News and World Reports:

Two new EPA pollution regulations will slam the coal industry so hard that hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost, and electric rates will skyrocket 11 percent to over 23 percent, according to a new study based on government data.

Overall, the rules aimed at making the air cleaner could cost the coal-fired power plant industry $180 billion, warns a trade group.

“Many of these severe impacts would hit families living in states already facing serious economic challenges,” said Steve Miller, president of the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity. “Because of these impacts, EPA should make major changes to the proposed regulations before they are finalized,” he said.

The EPA, however, tells Whispers that the hit the industry will suffer is worth the health benefits.

For the record… For every green job created by the Obama EPA, four jobs are lost in the economy.

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Madness. Rebellion is truly in the air.

1 posted on 07/26/2011 11:32:33 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; seekthetruth; ...

.. Ding!


2 posted on 07/26/2011 11:33:53 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker downa)
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To: STARWISE

This might finally be time for the overused quote “So it begins.”


3 posted on 07/26/2011 11:38:46 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: STARWISE
Here is your Environmental EPA Nazi for Georgia who is the source of this Clusterfrack. Obama's Fed EPA never met a business they didn't want to destroy.


4 posted on 07/26/2011 11:45:44 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: STARWISE

Same article but from a different source - there are many really interesting comments.

http://www.davidmcelroy.org/?p=1586


5 posted on 07/26/2011 11:47:37 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: STARWISE

Could you imagine if all the coal power plant operators said, you know these new regs from the EPA, well, we decided this is no longer the business we want to be in, we are selling everything to highest bidder in pieces. Who wants to buy this stapler, the feds would freak.


6 posted on 07/26/2011 11:47:53 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Aria
Thanks .. I think that's the site from the audio. Imagine .. a willing businessman, sticking his neck out in this rotten economic climate and taking a chance, and this is what he faces. Dearlord. Someone needs to stop the insanity.


7 posted on 07/26/2011 11:53:00 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker downa)
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To: STARWISE

In our little town, a gravel mining operation is fighting a battle to open up a new section of an above ground mine. There is not problem with the mine itself, but the fact that the trucks hauling the rocks will have to travel over public roads is the reason for the stoppage of work. The locals are actually fighting because there may be as many as 12 trucks an hour passing their houses. I don’t know exactly how many jobs this will create, but the number will be zero if the locals have their way.


8 posted on 07/26/2011 11:53:49 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: STARWISE

We should just let these people forage for themselves without a penny of support.

I am amazed at the very real stupidity of people that bite the hand that feed them and give them real freedom.


9 posted on 07/26/2011 11:55:02 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: STARWISE

But this is exactly what the administration wants.


10 posted on 07/26/2011 11:56:11 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: STARWISE

Every time there is a similar story I have to wonder - - how many of these out-of-work men Bryant talked about, and their wives and families, always vote Democrat and will vote Democrat again? I often wonder how many people are truly capable of connecting the dots.


11 posted on 07/26/2011 11:56:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: STARWISE

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12 posted on 07/26/2011 11:57:29 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Freedom is saying "No!" to the Feds, and getting away with it. "Speak 'NO' to Power!")
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To: runninglips; Aria; All

Jeeze ~~

Comment from above site .. shows ya, the John Galts who are old enough will surely be growing in #’s

“My dad closed his business after 30 years of operation because of the environmental theocracy. He wasn’t huge-just employed 6 uneducated, otherwise-unskilled workers. He wasn’t polluting – in fact, he was awarded a U.S. patent for a waste-free plating system.

But the government bureaucrats need someone to pursue to justify their own existence, and slapped him with a lawsuit demanding mounds of paperwork, fines for not previously keeping paperwork they way they liked (fines: $25k/day by statute), environmental impact statements, etc.

He shut down. He now owns nothing. He spends his days plays golf, with his model trains, and with his grandchildren. His only income is now Social Security.

His quote: “These government parasites spent years hounding and harassing me. I’ll parasite off them for awhile and see how they like it.”


13 posted on 07/27/2011 12:00:32 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker downa)
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To: STARWISE

Madness. Rebellion is truly in the air.

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Yes. Civilizations just do not lay down and die when an imbecile becomes the head of state. The Neros, Caligulas and Elagabulus’ of the world do not endure long, or go quietly.


14 posted on 07/27/2011 12:10:25 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: STARWISE

I guess everybody’s seen that Nissan Leaf ad with all the little dirty gas engines powering everything. That ad freaks me out. It’s images are compelling, but the whole thing is a dirty lie. It’s promoting a rhetorical fanatasy. I guess what freaks me out is the realization that this kind of rhetoric can easily prevail over stolid reason.


15 posted on 07/27/2011 12:14:59 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: STARWISE

Yes, a horrible story - one of many. And that’s what the government people do - harass citizens to justify their existence. I saw it many times when we had our construction business.

It’s the US Government v We The People.


16 posted on 07/27/2011 12:21:03 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Aria
From the article you linked:

"But I wonder how long it’s going to be before businesspeople really do start walking away and deciding it’s not worth doing business in America today. Or it it already happening and we just don’t know it?"

Um, checked the unemployment numbers lately, esp the U6 numbers? IT'S HAPPENING ON A MASSIVE SCALE RIGHT NOW!!!

Sorry to shout -- and it wasn't directed at you, Aria -- but just WOW!

17 posted on 07/27/2011 12:24:21 AM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Caption: “Regulations never hurt MY job”.


18 posted on 07/27/2011 12:24:55 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Aria
there are many really interesting comments.

Yes, there are many personal stories describing how the regulatory state puts Americans out of business. That is one of the best series of Internet comments I have ever read.

19 posted on 07/27/2011 12:33:37 AM PDT by TChad
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To: dr_lew
Just like the “Support Clean Energy Now” ads with the little girl playing in the waves to boost the idea of wave powered energy. Too bad the physics just don't work — there simply isn't enough exploitable power in water waves to impact our needs. But it's a cute little girl! If you bring up physics, why, you must hate little girls!

But hey, let's assume some super genius figures out a way to MAKE it work with NO environmental impact. Well, the EPA, animal rights groups, and every ever leftscum group will stop any actual implementation for excuses ranging from “you are killing (some common worthless creature with a cute name) by doing this” to “by converting that energy you are causing global warming/cooling/no change (which is bad because climate should change).”

And people believe this garbage. Most of ‘em. Frankly, they deserve their coming fate...

20 posted on 07/27/2011 12:34:30 AM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: TChad

Agree. The comments on that story are worth reading. I am not a businessman but I would not bother either. When over half your labor goes to feed or satisfy the government it can’t be worth it. Corporate America is winning.... they already employ lawyers, accountants, and politicians to maintain compliance. The little guy who does it themselves does not stand a chance in today’s environment.


21 posted on 07/27/2011 12:38:53 AM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: STARWISE

i shuttered my 12 year old florida software company about 18 months ago

i won’t open it again... in the US

they don’t want it, they won’t get it. hell if i’ll ‘give’ (under threat of violence) 50% of my labor/time so they can have luxury retirement packages

the $210k/yr retired california lifeguard just frosted it for me. hell, my godfather was ‘only’ getting $80k/yr after serving 26 years in the USAF. a retired one-star former asst joint chief, nato cmdr in europe, multi decorations, fighter pilot... MThatcher even gave him a jag for everything he did (which was promptly given to the ‘gifts’ dept i believe). $80k/yr. wtf

he should’ve been a life guard... (/sarc)


22 posted on 07/27/2011 12:41:21 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: STARWISE

Thats OK Mr Ronnie Bryant of Alabama.

I understand why you gave up on opening that mine. If the EPA didnt get you from one angle, Obama’s proposed higher taxes (becasue you are a evil rich man)will nail you from another angle. /s

Major slaps of reality like this need to be told. The truth needs to get out there.


23 posted on 07/27/2011 12:47:15 AM PDT by TheShaz
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To: freekitty
I am amazed at the very real stupidity of people that bite the hand that feed them and give them real freedom.

They voted for Obama.
Change is starting to hurt.

24 posted on 07/27/2011 12:49:29 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Bon mots

“They voted for Obama.
Change is starting to hurt.”

If they voted for obastard, I hope the change hurts. A LOT. And it WILL!!!


25 posted on 07/27/2011 12:55:11 AM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: STARWISE

This is necessary to fundamentally transform America.


26 posted on 07/27/2011 12:57:01 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: STARWISE

I quit a year and a half ago. I am no longer a producer.
I am now a burden on the ever inflating government budget.
I am sitting on the sideline waiting for the time when I can again be a productive citizen of a great country, but till then I have nothing productive to offer.


27 posted on 07/27/2011 12:59:05 AM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: STARWISE

Francisco?


28 posted on 07/27/2011 1:03:49 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
It's like a gang color or something.


29 posted on 07/27/2011 1:14:33 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel

Roots


30 posted on 07/27/2011 1:43:29 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: dila813

Image if all the power companies and coal mines decided to just shut down one day next week and stay closed. That would be the end of the Democrats and Obama.

The way the EPA is going to shut down old nuclear power plants and coal-fed energy plants, and mines, if we have another heat-wave like this, thousands of older and ill people are going to die.

Let’s start to put the blame directly on Obama and his leftist shithole the EPA.


31 posted on 07/27/2011 1:46:26 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: volunbeer

It’s not like most small business is profitable. After wages, product, fixed costs, taxes and satisfying government regs there usually is not enough money to pay the owner minimum wage. Why do it indeed.


32 posted on 07/27/2011 2:17:50 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This IS my blog site.)
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To: central_va

Read the thread. This is reality. This is being repeated across the country. Each event a small number and therefore isn’t deemed news worthy but in sum this is a big, big deal.

Death by a thousand cuts. Our primary economic problems are from within.


33 posted on 07/27/2011 2:24:05 AM PDT by DB
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To: jongaltsr
I am sitting on the sideline waiting for the time when I can again be a productive citizen of a great country, but till then I have nothing productive to offer.

Same here. I couldn't stand the thought that the tax paid on my productivity was being used to destroy the very way of life our fellow countrymen fought and died for.

Quietly accumulating ideas and hoping to join the restoration of America but also hunkered down for a rough period I see on the horizon.

34 posted on 07/27/2011 2:33:23 AM PDT by Errant
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks STARWISE.
Nearly every day without fail...men stream to these [mining] operations looking for work in Walker County. They can't pay their mortgage.

They can't pay their car note. They can't feed their families. They don't have health insurance. And as I stand here today, I just...you know...what's the use?

I got a permit to open up an underground coal mine that would employ probably 125 people. They'd be paid wages from $50,000 to $150,000 a year. We would consume probably $50 million to $60 million in consumables a year, putting more men to work.

And my only idea today is to go home. What's the use? I see these guys--I see them with tears in their eyes--looking for work. And if there's so much opposition to these guys making a living, I feel like there's no need in me putting out the effort to provide work for them.
I hope this doesn't go viral, because then we can all still blame everything on the "RINOS".


35 posted on 07/27/2011 3:00:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: STARWISE

Madness. Rebellion is truly in the air.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And Obama is ready for it, counting on it. He will slap down any rebellion, so it will not be an easy one.


36 posted on 07/27/2011 3:04:42 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: ExGeeEye

I want one.


37 posted on 07/27/2011 3:21:50 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: STARWISE

At the same time, in my neck of the woods, the Bronze Horde’s underground economy grows by leaps & bounds, with little regulation at all. Restaurants with illegal workers/no signs in English, barbershops with no licenses displayed as per the law, anything is being done to keep their businesses open to prevent northern NJ from becoming the commercial ghost town it would be without a massive influx of illegal aliens.


38 posted on 07/27/2011 3:25:52 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Your regional Obama appointed EPA tyrant-commissar who trashed prospects for this new coal mine has never worked a minute in the dreaded private sector. The perfect resume for Obamanoid apparatchiks

http://www.gwenkeyesfleming.com/meetgwen.htm

http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/dekalb-da-resigns-to-604731.html

 


39 posted on 07/27/2011 3:37:43 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT -- works better if you're already smart)
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To: STARWISE
Bryant listened to an overflow crowd pepper federal officials with concerns about businesses polluting the drinking water and causing cases of cancer.

Conditioning is still the most powerful shaper of minds. A million would-be Erin Brockoviches have nothing better to do than show up and spout Sierra Club nonsense.

40 posted on 07/27/2011 3:42:56 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: STARWISE

Defund the EPA, and retire all Congressmen who refuse to do it...


41 posted on 07/27/2011 3:56:39 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Another Affirmation Action dumbass.

Now thousands more are out of work and power rates will go up just to help this mental reject's self esteem.
42 posted on 07/27/2011 3:59:52 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Ezekiel

...another Communist in her SEIU purple...you’re right...gang colors.


43 posted on 07/27/2011 4:08:13 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: STARWISE
Obamaistas, Democrats and other socialists have a touching faith in the law-abiding nature of the American People. Somehow, after spending years and years to undermine the rule of law, be lawless themselves and run a gangster government, they just somehow believe that the American People are just going to follow their rules. They also believed that the "stimulus", their rules and regulations and taxing the rich even more is going to create jobs. These people can't think beyond the first step.

Ah, no. Ain't gonna happen. They are creating a future for political violence, just like we've seen in Europe over the past century and a half of socialism.

Hitler studied the Socialist movement in Germany, which was the largest, richest and most influential in the world. He took their methods to create his German nationalist workers movement in contrast to their international workers movement.

The socialists in this country just can't imagine that others will use their techniques against them. After they destroy elections, so that elections don't change anything, people will turn from elections to change things. The top people in their movement, like a Van Jones, intellectually want the chaos and violence, because they think they will pick up the pieces. They won't like the results of what is really going to happen.

44 posted on 07/27/2011 4:13:32 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: piytar
Too bad the physics just don't work

How true piytar. The arrogance which so often accompanies the ignorance of environmental activists tempts letting them stew in the fruits of their ignorance. Unfortunately, the private sector they want to handicap, creating their Marxist Utopia, so the ski resorts won't be so crowded will be what remains for my children.

What is true of wave power, which, along with tidal power, has been a useless curiosity which gets revisited every few decades, is also true of wind power and solar power. Those who've driven the Altamont Pass in California and seen the wind turbine graveyard, blades still, because the subsidies and tax shelters ran out. Many saw the two enormous Silicon Valley buildings visited by Obama in January, Solyndra, surrounded by empty parking lots, having taken their half billion dollars in May of 2010 and closed shop in November. Those empty parking lots are potent symbols of why so many of the buildings in the high tech valhalla are empty. Marxist anticapitalists are killing the free maarket and the technology which grew from it.

People have died from falling from towers, and at least one, from a flying wind turbine blade. Many have died working on low tech solar panels, falling from roofs, and thousands would die each year if we ever build commercially sized arrays with tens of thousands of heliostats in fields six miles on a side, where servicing from cranes must be done at night. The issue is, of course, the low energy flux density and intermittence of wind and sunlight which makes it is all a pipe dream, dangerous both to our economy and our citizens. For those technologies the Marxists the cost of power from coal"...must necessarily skyrocket." For Obama, though he honestly made the comment about coal plants, he really meant oil, gas, and nuclear power which growth he has killed, using his Marxist, socialist, and communist comrades in EPA and green czar positions.

We can hope the Chinese and Indians will like our temperate climates enough to use our real estate for research centers, providing some income for those remaining in California, at least enough income to allow us to purchase what manufactured goods our diminishing currency will permit us.

The Chinese and Indians will have little use for our bureaucrats, but if they buy homes here, they may be willing to employ police, fire, and healthcare services. Their engineers and scientists are generally superior to ours, thanks to our high schools. Entering graduate schools they usually have about a two year advantage, having done coursework in science and mathematics our native born and raised students only begin in grad school.

We are learning how prescient Ayn Rand was when she produced Atlas Shrugged.

45 posted on 07/27/2011 4:14:28 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

If you cloned a 1000 of her, they would not know the first thing about mining coal.
The Democrats are doing everything that they can to hold back, control, hamper, regulate and steal from businesses and those who start, own and run them. Ergo they are doing everything they cab to destroy the economy.


46 posted on 07/27/2011 4:16:54 AM PDT by all the best
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To: STARWISE

PIIng


47 posted on 07/27/2011 4:31:47 AM PDT by onona (I stand with SARAH !)
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To: volunbeer

Corporate America is winning.... they already employ lawyers, accountants, and politicians to maintain compliance. The little guy who does it themselves does not stand a chance in today’s environment.


I am not sure , what is your definition of corporate America?

It appears to me that socialism is winning.


48 posted on 07/27/2011 4:35:21 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

She and the Wookie must have the same dentist.


49 posted on 07/27/2011 4:36:22 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Spaulding

truth!!!!


50 posted on 07/27/2011 4:42:51 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT -- works better if you're already smart)
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