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McCain vs. the Tea Party
New York Times ^

Posted on 07/27/2011 11:53:56 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative

Mr. McCain mocked Tea Party-allied Republicans in the House for believing — wrongly, he said — that President Obama and Democrats will get the blame for a default if Republicans refuse to increase the nation’s debt ceiling. By that flawed logic, “Democrats would have no choice but to pass a balanced budget amendment and reform entitlements and the Tea Party Hobbits could return to Middle Earth,” he said, quoting a Wall Street Journal editorial. “This is the kind of crack political thinking that turned Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell into G.O.P. nominees,” he jeered, referring to two losing Tea Party candidates for the Senate in 2010.

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To: Pearls Before Swine

If the Tea Party were to form the GOP would be the third party!


51 posted on 07/27/2011 12:08:13 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Windy City Conservative
Is there a point when someone like McCain who is a "war hero" (aka bad pilot in his case as far as I'm concerned) who has done so much damage he no longer deserves respect for his past?

If there is I'd say McCain surpassed that point long ago.

I recall meeting McCain in AZ and while he was here in Texas. He was an absolute p$ick. He would not listen to anyone else. Once he decided things were a certain way he just spat at anyone else who did not agree with him. After being around him a bit I knew he would never get elected. He is a douche.

McCain ought to buy a pallet of viagra, go home and "hit" his lady until he keels over. She is pretty hot. My impression of her when I was around them was that she puts up with him. I did not see much affection.

52 posted on 07/27/2011 12:08:28 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
It is utterly inconceivable that a warrior-prisoner who has fought and suffered for this country to dishonor the values and commitment of the Tea Party constitutents (whether formal or in sentiment) by such talk.

My only conclusion is that his brains as well as his body were ruthlessly beaten. The other alternative? This man is just plain certifiably crazy or he has succumbed to the lure of wealth and power and ITB approval.....either way he just needs to fade away and shut up.

53 posted on 07/27/2011 12:08:28 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Windy City Conservative

McLame has and continues to be an ass.


54 posted on 07/27/2011 12:08:28 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Windy City Conservative
3rd Party Time?

Not for me, but it's time to get McRat the Ranting Rino out of my party. Neither Angle nor O'Donnell was the worst Republican nominee in recent elections. That honor belongs to the McRat. He turns my stomach.

55 posted on 07/27/2011 12:09:22 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: American Quilter

I just called his office in Washington and told him that a Tea Party Hobbit was calling and wanted him to know I voted for Palin and not him. Good Day

1-202-224-2235


56 posted on 07/27/2011 12:09:31 PM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: Windy City Conservative

FUJM


57 posted on 07/27/2011 12:10:56 PM PDT by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: bmwcyle
I've seen that movie before. Problem is, it never ends. It just goes on and on and on and...

We've been trying to "clean" the GOP since 1964, but RINOs are like cockroaches. They keep coming up through the cracks.

The GOP is the "new" Whig party. And we know what happened to them.

It's time.

58 posted on 07/27/2011 12:10:56 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Palin-________ Overdrive 2012 - Holy Flippin' Crap!!)
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To: GoCards

I would have to say (on the call): John, did Reid tell you to wave that white flag?


59 posted on 07/27/2011 12:12:46 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

A slash and burn policy? Nothing will be recognizable when the dust settles.


60 posted on 07/27/2011 12:12:58 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Windy City Conservative
JUAN AND the Slimes.

Popcorn eating doesn't get much better than this.

61 posted on 07/27/2011 12:13:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Windy City Conservative
NO NO NO!

No 3rd Party will be immune to human nature, human pride, and human stupidity.

Control the Republican Party, this is the only plan that will work!

62 posted on 07/27/2011 12:13:36 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Razzz42

John McCain is too clueless it is the USA vs DC and this time he is on the side of the enemy.


63 posted on 07/27/2011 12:14:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: LaybackLenny

(Third Party) Best plan for four more of zer0. No doubt here.


64 posted on 07/27/2011 12:14:20 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
“This is the kind of crack political thinking that turned Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell into G.O.P. nominees,” he jeered, referring to two losing Tea Party candidates for the Senate in 2010.

My God! He really doesn't know what he looks like to the sane, intelligent part of the country, does he?

65 posted on 07/27/2011 12:14:49 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Windy City Conservative

Yes it is Tea Party time!
McCain is a huge part of why we are in this debt problem. AZ....HE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED!!!

I also still believe that whoever decides to run for President should have to resign their seat in either the House or Senate! They take all that time to run. Don’t do their job but then they still have their other cushy job when they don’t win!


66 posted on 07/27/2011 12:15:28 PM PDT by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Oh McCain.....You've done it again!!!

67 posted on 07/27/2011 12:15:39 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio es enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: who knows what evil?

I truly don’t believe there is time to purge through elections. I don’t think this country will survive.

The one thing that gets me through the day is that all of this MUST be God’s will.


68 posted on 07/27/2011 12:15:40 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
"Mr. McCain mocked Tea Party-allied Republicans in the House for believing — wrongly, he said — that President Obama and Democrats will get the blame for a default if Republicans refuse to increase the nation’s debt ceiling."

JUAN: "We don't fix the problem, we fix the BLAME! (***cough*** Palin's fault ****cough****)

69 posted on 07/27/2011 12:15:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Windy City Conservative
If I recall correctly, McCain was the only non-voting Republican senator last week on the Cut-Cap-Balance bill's tabling motion. This rant explains I believe, why he was conveniently out of town.
70 posted on 07/27/2011 12:16:27 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Windy City Conservative

3rd Party Time?

*************

Not this cycle. Time to put down some survey stakes though. Depending on the results in 2012, be ready to move in 2013 or reinforce success if there is any.


71 posted on 07/27/2011 12:16:27 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Nobody seems to correlate the rising debt ceiling with declining jobs.

The rising debt ceiling has two consequences....

more regulation ...

to occupy employees in expanding federal bureaucracies...which expand because “they have more money” and another layer of bureaucrats need their 20 year promotions... Each round of regulatory expansion is the effective equivalent of another targeted tax increase on the object of the regulation.

more taxes...

The rising debt ceiling has demands and expectations of creditors for new elements of “revenue raising” by the Feds...taxes or fees.

In this strangling environment job creation is simply NOT possible.

In fact the only logical conclusion..can be ..is that the Federal apparatus -initially an asset to the United States..by virtue of its abilities to raise an effective Navy in the late 1700’s, and early 1800’s to facilitate overseas trade on behalf of the States, has become nothing other than the States greatest liability at this point in time. In the absence of profound regulatory and taxation reform-which is not capable of coming from the same minds that created the problem..we may well be at the end of the line.


72 posted on 07/27/2011 12:16:50 PM PDT by mo
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To: lowbridge

“McCain is correct. The media will certainly see to it that Democrats wont get any blame.”

And he never helps things with his mouth either...

He just wants to be the media’s little darling.


73 posted on 07/27/2011 12:18:15 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Windy City Conservative

Last time I checked, the hobbits saved Middle Earth.
“There is only one Lord of the Ring! Only one who can bend it to his will. And he. does. not. share. power!”


74 posted on 07/27/2011 12:18:46 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Windy City Conservative
3rd Party Time?

3rd party's don't work in our winner take all system. You'd just split the right of center vote and guarantee Democrats win everything - even in bright red states.

The Republican party will get more conservative each election cycle if movement conservatives and the Tea Party activists stay involved and VOTE in every primary.

75 posted on 07/27/2011 12:19:54 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
It was McCain's stupid, mealy-mouthed campaign, which failed to confront Obama effectively in 2008, which has brought America to this passage. What a pathetic spectacle, this intellectual fraud, carping against the men & women of principle, who are willing to stand-up to the "politcally correct," fatuous mass media, for having the courage and integrity that he lacks.

I could not in conscience vote for McCain. His statements on the campaign trail promised us a slower version of the Obamanist death. As terrible as this Administration is, its faster pace towards Hell has woken up a lot of Americans. In this wakeup, we have a hope to turn the tide. McCain needs to realize that those who reject his temporizing with self-destruction, are not going away. Nor will we be intimidated by his calumny.

I am not a member of any tea party--although I have spoken at a couple of small tea party rallies. But they deserve our praise, even as McCain deserves our condemnation.

For one of many examples of how I think Obama should have been handled, when McCain had the chance:

The Accidental American.

William Flax

76 posted on 07/27/2011 12:20:18 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Terry Mross
The one thing that gets me through the day is that all of this MUST be God’s will.

I can't argue with you...we haven't been very obedient children for quite a while, and it appears He is putting the belt to our hindquarters.

77 posted on 07/27/2011 12:20:42 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

If it wasn’t for the Tea Party (voting for Palin) his stupid old ass would have crashed earlier than it did.

McCain contact:

United States Senate, 241 Russell Senate Ofc. Bldg. Washington, DC 20510, Main: (202) 224-2235, Fax: (202) 228-2862


78 posted on 07/27/2011 12:21:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Palin needs to kick JUAN firmly and irreversibly to the curb.


79 posted on 07/27/2011 12:21:44 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Windy City Conservative

“Tea Party Hobbits could return to Middle Earth”

I guess he never read LOTR, or else he thoroughly misread it.


80 posted on 07/27/2011 12:22:01 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Windy City Conservative

There are 2 people who could BLAST McPain a good one. They are: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Denton AND http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Johnson They BOTH need to have a “little” talk w/ Juan.


81 posted on 07/27/2011 12:27:26 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

What were the people of Arizona thinking when they reelected this fool? He was a lousy senator, a lousy presidential candidate and now he is a lousy senator again.


82 posted on 07/27/2011 12:27:26 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (The original "Cash for Clunkers" program: the DNC Campaign fund)
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To: lowbridge
"McCain is correct. The media will certainly see to it that Democrats wont get any blame."

In the short term the media will blame the Republicans but history will lay this in the lap of the Obama presidency -- and Obama knows it.

83 posted on 07/27/2011 12:27:26 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Grunthor

“Tea Party Hobbits could return to Middle Earth,” he said”

Funny, that...

When the hobbits returned to the Shire, they found out that some thugs patterned after classic communists had taken over. They at first had promised “sharing”, but the thugs just took what people produced for their own use.

And the hobbits, fresh back from some battle hardening, took to kickin’ some thugasses out of the Shire.

Yes, Johnny, good analogy.


84 posted on 07/27/2011 12:27:58 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: jpsb

“Fight like a girl” John!


85 posted on 07/27/2011 12:27:58 PM PDT by swamprebel ((jmho))
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To: Windy City Conservative

Has McCain apologized to mr obama yet for this debt issue?


86 posted on 07/27/2011 12:28:04 PM PDT by italianquaker (When will Wallace ask obama if he is a flake?)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Dirty rotten SOB. Reid calls tea party people not Americans and now this trash comes up with this crap.

Too early in the day for me to be this pissed off!

87 posted on 07/27/2011 12:29:23 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
GO AWAY!!!
88 posted on 07/27/2011 12:29:48 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: no-to-illegals
(sigh of exasperation) Yep. I cannot begin to tell you for how many decades I've heard that same sentiment expressed. This so-called "housecleaning" has been going on for all of my adult life. Please enlighten me as to when, in YOUR opinion, this GOP epiphany will finally occur.

I WANT to believe that Sarah Palin can do for the national GOP what she did for the Alaska GOP. If so, I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong in believing that, at present, our dream of a coup d'etat within the GOP is a pipedream.

89 posted on 07/27/2011 12:30:09 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Palin-________ Overdrive 2012 - Holy Flippin' Crap!!)
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To: Paladin2
Palin needs to kick JUAN firmly and irreversibly to the curb.

Yes, she does...and NEVER endorse this old coot, again!

90 posted on 07/27/2011 12:30:09 PM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Shut up you old fool! You are destined for the Old Senators Home. The Revolution of 2011-2012 has begun.
91 posted on 07/27/2011 12:30:57 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't go wobbly on me now GOP leadership)
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To: Windy City Conservative

The House needs to re-vote on CCB and go home. Shut down the House, turn out the lights reminiscent of Nancy Pelosi and go home.


92 posted on 07/27/2011 12:31:30 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: The Cajun

“Too early in the day for me to be this pissed off!”

So, about what time do you usually get this pissed off?


93 posted on 07/27/2011 12:32:14 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Life gets much simpler for a conservative when he at last realizes he owes the GOP nothing.


94 posted on 07/27/2011 12:34:46 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Mocked or blasted? Make up your minds, NY Times. If you have any.


95 posted on 07/27/2011 12:35:04 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: RightWingConspirator
What were the people of Arizona thinking when they reelected this fool?

I'm still not convinced the bastard was elected by legal votes.

96 posted on 07/27/2011 12:36:22 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The correct response to McCain is the same response Boehner should be giving to Obama and Reid. If you don’t like my plan, put your own plan before the people with specifics.


97 posted on 07/27/2011 12:37:16 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: McGruff

99 posted on 07/27/2011 12:39:41 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Is that what your slutty little daughter told you to say Juan?


100 posted on 07/27/2011 12:39:41 PM PDT by DManA
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