Posted on 07/27/2011 1:50:33 PM PDT by teg_76
[T]he opposition bloc led by [Jim] Jordan appears to be crumbling, as leadership’s message seems to be sinking in. Sources tells NRO that a number of members who were confirmed no votes against the Boehner plan announced during the meeting that they would be voting yes. One of those members, Rep. Blake Farenthold (R., Texas) told reporters that while he would like to “snap my fingers and change the world like ‘I Dream of Genie’ of Samantha on ‘Bewitched,’” Republicans “need to take what we can get.”…
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I could reeeeeally use some reassurance right about now.
The difference is if the House GOP passes a plan and the Dem Senate does not pass it simply because Obama wants to push this out past the election, then the Dems own the resulting default.
Of course, they could always turn this back on the House. They could take the Boehner bill, gut it and amend it to contain the Reid bill, pass it and send it BACK to the House and dare them to vote it down - in that case, blame goes back to the House. Of course, that would then require a conference committee, and who is appointed to that committee would largely determine what the final bill looked like.
“Calm down folks. We haven’t the numbers to force the issue. If we don’t compromise, and the result is either a partial government shutdown or negative economic repercussions, I assure you that Republicans will receive the blame. Save your powder for 2012 when we have a real chance to unseat Obama and pick up sufficient seats in the Senate to enact meaningful change.”
Bingo.
Kill off
•Department of Agriculture (USDA)
•Department of Commerce (DOC)
•Department of Education (ED)
•Department of Energy (DOE)
•Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
•Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
•Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
•Department of Labor (DOL)
•Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)
•Destory ATF, Foreign Aid, UN, NATO, pull most troops from Europe and Asia back home, and other Bravo Sierra agencies and bureaus as needed.
Every remaining department gets a haircut to the percentage needed to balance the budget.
Well, in any deal, whatever the side, the idea is to get the money upfront for whatever one really really wants. The GOP is incapable of managing this accumen and lets itself treated emotionaly by a bunch of panzy democrates pimped out by red china, and that is it.
Oh, and the other point of the exercise was to prove that this panzy feminine government is not needed. Well, except for a few of them in it left with some fortitude, and this is why perhaps Palin is hedging.
Let us look at this. Louis XVI’s downfall was that he was found to be useless and things kept going after he left the castle. We have the same NWO level situation here. This “King Government” is becoming more and more irrelevant as it becomes corrupt and bipartisan and compromising.
Once this will be visible, a cadre, hopefuly, of certain well minded capitalist folkes, will get to a board meeting with the military and some governors of states, and reroute the whole thing, bypassing the jackasses of DC that we really do not need anymore.... that is if we are not getting a nuke strike from Russia and CHina in the meantime during this crisis.
The US will soon have no choice but to make deep cuts in spending. For now, the Boehner plan is the best that the GOP can attain. In implementation it is likely to get better.
As far as the Boehner plan, Ryan is saying that the cuts must become law before the debt ceiling is raised, so it is not giving money to Obama with “promises” of future cuts.
If true, we simply need to start all over again in 2012. Fumigation takes time.
You have pretty much pegged it. The GOP is not going to save this country. We all knew this would happen we just hoped it wouldn’t. We are headed for an economic catastrophe. If you are not stocked up on essentials and the means to protect it you had best get busy.
Not raising the debt ceiling will guarantee an Obama and Dem victory in ‘12.
This is good. That’s why the Dems won’t pass it :)
-- George Washington, Letter to Bushrod Washington, November 10, 1787
That to me seems reasonable. If we control the WH and both the Senate and House; maybe we could actually get something done.
Or maybe it is truly too late to save things.
“What does it matter, Senators arent voting for it and Bam Bam said hed veto??? right?”
I believe that is what is at the root of this. The GOP is trying to get everybody onboard to call the Dem’s and presidents bluff. But this is the root of the problem POLITICS and NOT doing the RIGHT thing.
No the GOP will not look good with this. But 0bama and the Dems will look bad.
As I have said before we are fighting a war on two fronts: the fiscal front and the political front. If we use all of our resources to win the fiscal front we will lose the political front. If we don’t win politically in 2012 the war is lost. We must concentrate on holding the fiscal front in somewhat check (we may have to give ground) and throw all of our resources to winning politically. Then we can truly go after big government. If the GOP fails to do that then it is all over anyway. But they are our best hope right now.
If the GOP forces the Dems and 0bama to swallow this plan, the Dems and 0bama will have lost on every demand save one. They demanded new taxes and an extension past the 2012 election. The GOP was always going to increase the debt ceiling. But I think they could have forced bigger spending cuts. But the war is not over.
If Reid and 0bama accept this deal they will lose bigger than we will. If they reject it out of hand they will lose even bigger.
‘appears’ to be crumbling...’seems’ to be...
Nothing more than to get people to click on the article.
Right now Reid is laughing his a$$ off. He is sitting there with a drink in hand and thinking that by saying no, Boehner will go back again and give him a little bit more.
By the time this is over, Boehner’s bill wil be the exact replica of the senate bill. Can will get kicked down the road, debt will go up, Obama will be worshipped for his courageousness in standing up to the radical right and the world will go on.
And all the tea party congressmen will get to say yippee that a balanced budget amendment was passed in the house. Gives them something to go back to their people and say they did what they promised.
No. The only way we will default will be if the government intentionally stops paying the interest on our debt.
Look at the numbers. Our debt service obligations are $20 billion per month. The Treasury takes in an average of $200 billion per month. You can pay the debt service and still have $180 billion per month left!
Will there need to be a lot of cuts? Sure. But the point is, the only way we will default is if it is intentional.
On the other hand, if we increase the debt ceiling by another $1 trillion, interest rates will rise and our debt service obligations on an even larger debt under a higher interest rate environment will be much more than $20 billion a month. How that is a good result is beyond me....
If the GOP has sold the Tea Party out,, believe me, the Tea Party will have the last word!
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