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Caught on tape: Police beat and taser 'gentle' mentally-ill homeless man to death
The Daily Mail ^ | 6:27 PM on 27th July 2011 | RACHEL QUIGLEY

Posted on 07/28/2011 11:25:52 AM PDT by Smogger

Edited on 07/28/2011 11:47:56 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

A shocking video has been released allegedly showing police officers tasering and beating a homeless man to death who they claim was resisting arrest. Though the video is not clear, eye witnesses say the homeless man - Kelly Thomas, 37 - was unable to put up any resistance and was lying on the ground on his front when the attack took place on July 5. His screams and cries for his father can be heard amid the tasering noises.

Graphic photo at link.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: beatdown; communism; corruption; deadjackbootswalking; donutwatch; fascism; fullerton; jbt; kellythomas; leo; leothugs; leoviolence; lping; murder; police; policestate; rapeofliberty; roguecop; taser; tyranny
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Speaking about his son's death, Thomas's dad, Ron Thomas, a former sheriff's deputy, said: 'His death was gang-involved, the way I see it. A gang of rogue officers who brutally beat my son to death.'

He said he now feels ashamed for having ever been a law enforcement officer.

The video is sickening. Since it's obvious to everyone watching they are killing the guy.

1 posted on 07/28/2011 11:25:59 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

He’s white so there’s no story here, the media will ignore it...


2 posted on 07/28/2011 11:29:20 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Smogger
Hopefully he is smart and plannig revenge. I know I would.

Those no good cs'ers would be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their...lives

3 posted on 07/28/2011 11:33:05 AM PDT by Post5203 (Our political class have sullied a good man's name...Washington)
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To: Smogger

Pity the men that would beat my son to death like that. If those cops have kids...


4 posted on 07/28/2011 11:35:34 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Smogger
Todd beamer weeps.

5 posted on 07/28/2011 11:37:45 AM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Smogger

Apparently they’ve run out of dogs to shoot.


6 posted on 07/28/2011 11:38:09 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Smogger

Here we go with another, “The cops are all bad and poor man is totally innocent. Let’s get rid of cops.” rant. Please, spare us. The small word, “resisted” is so underplayed here that we know better than to fall for this left-wing (or is it right-wing?) ploy. The previous assault with a deadly weapon charge is also ignored.

What is sickening is that this junk gets an audience.


7 posted on 07/28/2011 11:39:05 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: driftdiver

Maybe they thought he was a dog?


8 posted on 07/28/2011 11:39:14 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Smogger

Fullerton, CA. Orange County.

Even if the man were on PCP, there is no reason for him to be beaten like that.


9 posted on 07/28/2011 11:39:47 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: apillar; Post5203

the media DID ignore this. i’ve only seen it in British papers. (sadly, an increasingly common pattern).

as for revenge, it won’t bring his son back.

...but what bothers me, is what about all the times when there’s no video?
(or, the video “disappears”, like from ALL the cameras in COSTCO, when police murdered the West Point grad.)


10 posted on 07/28/2011 11:40:20 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Smogger
Thhis was just an isolated incident...

...you know, like all those other isolated incidents we keep reading about...

11 posted on 07/28/2011 11:40:27 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Smogger

Are we living in Iran? I saw the video of this beating and it made me sick. The witnesses were telling them to stop because the victim was not resisting so the thugs threatened them and kept on with the murder. Murdered that young man right in front of alot of witnesses. The officers had no concern about being filmed murdering someone on the street right in front of probably 30-40 witnesses.

It was a racial thing or it would be called that if it were white officers brazenly murdering a black or brown man like that on the street.


12 posted on 07/28/2011 11:41:18 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Smogger

This is just heart wrenching. I can’t stand to look at the video. Hard to imagine they’d have to resort to this type of violence to subdue him. Sounds like Las Vegas PD tactics (Erik Scott) being employed in Fullerton.

Thugs hiding behind badges.


13 posted on 07/28/2011 11:41:23 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: Dutchboy88

the guy is dead, he didn’t take a beating and live. he died.

and you try to justify a killing? wow.


14 posted on 07/28/2011 11:42:19 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: Smogger

I just thought that we have been warning good police officers that either they stand up for the rule of law and the constitution or they are going to end up victims of what they are allowing to happen. Here’s one. So sad.


15 posted on 07/28/2011 11:42:50 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Dutchboy88

Gee if someone has tasered me 5 times and is beating me to death...yeah I might just resist and try and get away.

Wholly sh8t...you see those pictures...that is not use of force to subdue.

They didn’t beat him into an inch of his death. They beat him to his death.


16 posted on 07/28/2011 11:43:46 AM PDT by EBH ( God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Dutchboy88
What is sickening is that this junk gets an audience.

Yeah, God forbid that this evil sees the light of day.
17 posted on 07/28/2011 11:45:15 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Dutchboy88

Ahh so you’re ok with 6 cops beating a man to death. I can see you’re all about freedom and what this country stands for.


18 posted on 07/28/2011 11:45:29 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Smogger

There are still agencies out there that are not training their officers to deal with the mentally ill as it appears this man was.

There are also agencies who are not training their officers to work in two officer teams to affect a proper taser takedown. This entails the second officer to move into position and start the handcuffing as soon as the charge is over or even while it’s going on. It’s tricky though, you get your hands between those probes and you are going to get shocked yourself.

One problem with Tasers is that when the juice is off, it’s off and the fight is back on. And when you are dealing with someone who is mentally ill, they will fight until they collapse and they will not listen to commands to stop fighting.

One of the worst resistings I had was with an autistic teenager, and that was before tasers. He fought throught OC and was throwing two hundred pound officers off him like it was nothing. Took eight officers to finally hold him down. He was about 5’9 and 160 lbs.

I strongly suspect this guy punched some of the officers during the arrest...


19 posted on 07/28/2011 11:46:45 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Pledges, Patriots, Prayers, and Palin.)
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To: Smogger

I won’t watch the video but I trust everyone I’ve heard or read discussing it. As the father, who ironically used to teach cops take-down techniques for perps, said, 6 or more big officers with all those weapons and accoutrements at their disposal should have been able to take down one schizophrenic 135 lb guy without beating him to death.

This was unjustified gross violence, basically murder.


20 posted on 07/28/2011 11:46:45 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Dutchboy88
After the fourth tasering was he twitching too much to be cuffed and was therefore tased again for resisting?

This is beginning to look more and more like A Clockwork Orange where Alex's fellow gang members became police officers in the end.

21 posted on 07/28/2011 11:47:09 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Dems demanding shared sacrifice are like Aztec priests doing it while cutting out my heart.)
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To: Molon Labbie

Maybe for these cases they need tranq darts or something.


22 posted on 07/28/2011 11:47:50 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Dutchboy88

pul-leeze. did you look at the video?

if 5 guys (FIVE!) couldn’t handle a skinny “resister”,
then we need to hire guys who can.

and my Dad served honorably with the Mesa P.D.
and he, and many good cops around the country,
would be the FIRST to condemn this.

any GOOD organization, polices their OWN.
once you start covering up for criminal conduct...

(2 of those COSTCO police got awarded for killing that West Point grad !)

...and what was the deadly weapon from before?
a TSA nail clipper?


23 posted on 07/28/2011 11:48:12 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Dutchboy88
The previous assault with a deadly weapon charge is also ignored.

No, it wasn't. Neither was the visable facts that the man had long since been subdued, but the beating continued.

24 posted on 07/28/2011 11:48:58 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Molon Labbie
I strongly suspect this guy punched some of the officers during the arrest...

Ah, there is a good reason for the police to kill him! < /sarcasm>

25 posted on 07/28/2011 11:50:18 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: driftdiver; Dutchboy88
A prior conviction and ‘resisting’ and suddenly this man deserved execution? And execution that would qualify as ‘cruel’ in every sense? Give someone a uniform and some people will justify anything they do. Give someone a tag as a ‘convict’ or other undesirable and some people justify anything done TO them.
26 posted on 07/28/2011 11:50:18 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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After the fourth tasering was he twitching too much to be cuffed and was therefore tased again for resisting?

Uh...that would be a grand mal seizure?

27 posted on 07/28/2011 11:50:26 AM PDT by EBH ( God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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One of these days, a bystander in the crowd is just going to cut loose and put a few dead officers on the ground.

The cops, of course, will respond with 78 shots into the crowd in the direction they think the shots came from.

28 posted on 07/28/2011 11:51:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Smogger

No amount of lying scenarios the cops come up with, can justify this. This guy was murdered.


29 posted on 07/28/2011 11:51:35 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: Dutchboy88
Yeah, they had no choice. A 135 lb guy laying flat on the ground with 6 cops beating the s*** out of him and tasing. This is homicide clear and simple and anyone that justifies this is sick.
30 posted on 07/28/2011 11:52:14 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: KarlInOhio

It’s amazing how much of science fiction has become and is continuing to become a reality in this country and the rest of the West.

I have to wonder why this schizo wasn’t locked up in the first place to prevent this from happening?


31 posted on 07/28/2011 11:52:21 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Dutchboy88

Something tells me your support for police britality is not going to be too popular here.

PS - If you do not think this incident WAS a case of police brutality then please take the time to explain exactly what six heavily armed officers would have to do to an unarmed man in order to have their actions qualify as brutality.


32 posted on 07/28/2011 11:52:30 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: KarlInOhio
This is beginning to look more and more like A Clockwork Orange where Alex's fellow gang members became police officers in the end.

That is exactly what I thought as I read this story and viewed the video.

33 posted on 07/28/2011 11:53:45 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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I have to wonder why this schizo wasn’t locked up in the first place to prevent this from happening?

They cut the funding and we don't do that to the mentally ill anymore unless they are a danger to themselves or society. By all accounts from the article this man was not.

34 posted on 07/28/2011 11:55:51 AM PDT by EBH ( God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Dutchboy88

Not all cops are bad, just most of them.

When 5 or 6 cops are on top of 1 man (135ish pounds), there CAN’T be any resisting. There is NO excuse for tasering a person one time, much less 5 or more.


35 posted on 07/28/2011 11:57:07 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Dutchboy88

The 16 year old charge. Yeah. I’m gonna ignore it. I am also gonna say that I have seen and participated in restraining unarmed people that were drunk/belligerent/mad etc. with less then 6 people without killing the guy or beating them so bad that their face looks like it went through a meat grinder, and none of us were cops.


36 posted on 07/28/2011 11:57:07 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

murder. no more. certainly no less.


37 posted on 07/28/2011 11:57:46 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Dutchboy88

>>Here we go with another, “The cops are all bad and poor man is totally innocent. Let’s get rid of cops.” rant. Please, spare us. The small word, “resisted” is so underplayed here that we know better than to fall for this left-wing (or is it right-wing?) ploy. The previous assault with a deadly weapon charge is also ignored.<<

Is it just me or did you not see the words “mentally-ill”. I know that “resisting” is a charge that is placed on anyone who doesn’t immediately do as ordered. The “deadly weapon charge” makes me think of the man in Seattle who, deaf in one ear, was carving on a stick with a pocket knife and a local officer shot to death for not obeying his command.

I have no idea what meds these cops were on but you guys need to quit using drugs or whatever your problem is.

By the way, resisting to me is when someone is stomping your butt into a mudhole, not ignoring you.


38 posted on 07/28/2011 11:58:15 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: Dutchboy88
Here we go with another, “The cops are all bad and poor man is totally innocent. Let’s get rid of cops.” rant.

I usually find myself on the side of the cops, but in this case there is no justification for what was done to this guy. How you can say what you have is astoundingly callous.

No, let's not get rid of all the cops, just the those involved here who beat a guy to death in public. These guys deserve murder charges.

39 posted on 07/28/2011 11:58:29 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Sporke

99.9% of the cops I know are overpaid psychos.


40 posted on 07/28/2011 11:59:12 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: Post5203
totally agree. Free men should not tolerate this. It's time to start defanging these out of control units of thugs.
41 posted on 07/28/2011 11:59:37 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Hey a man was beaten to death last night.

Oh...it's okay. The boys in blue showed another punk who's boss.

Now you keep those boots polished real nice!

42 posted on 07/28/2011 12:01:30 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (I've been dipping into my jar full of Hope & Change just to buy gas!!)
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To: Molon Labbie
Took eight officers to finally hold him down. He was about 5’9 and 160 lbs.

Did the officers beat him until his face looked like the picture posted above? Did they kill him?

43 posted on 07/28/2011 12:01:30 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Smogger

I only wonder why the first cop on scene didn’t just save the others some energy and just shoot him on sight. It wouldn’t be the first time a cop did that.


44 posted on 07/28/2011 12:02:46 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Smogger

I watched the video...

I don’t know if I could have just stood there.

And I feel for the witnesses that did stand there and did nothing...to later find out this man died.


45 posted on 07/28/2011 12:04:14 PM PDT by EBH ( God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I have to wonder why this schizo wasn’t locked up in the first place to prevent this from happening?

Because liberals have made involuntary commitment to mental hospitals nearly impossible.

46 posted on 07/28/2011 12:04:49 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- mission accomplished)
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To: Dutchboy88

Have you quit getting off to ‘snuff’ videos, yet?

You’re reprehensible to be defending this.

Nothing this guy did, or had done in the past, rises to the level to were these scum were justified in using deadly force.

NOTHING.

Every damned one of those cops should ride the lightning on a one-way ticket to eternal flaming Hell.


47 posted on 07/28/2011 12:05:05 PM PDT by HKMk23 (YHVH NEVER PLAYS DEFENSE)
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To: Yaelle

Something. Believe me, if there was tech out there that officers could use that would instantly incapacitate a resistive person without the pain and it kept them in that state until properly restrained, I would buy stock in it.

Taser is not teaching it’s instructors who in turn teach all other officers, to keep tasering over and over again to gain compliance.


48 posted on 07/28/2011 12:05:35 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Pledges, Patriots, Prayers, and Palin.)
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To: Smogger
It seems like the police are slowly adopting the Deceptican Barricade's motto from the Transformers movie, "To punish and enslave."

49 posted on 07/28/2011 12:09:40 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: EBH

I can understand why they didn’t intervene. Had they challenged the cops, the Blue Wall would come down around them for the rest of their lives and they would have to get out of town. Mind you, had I been in their shoes and watched that kind of behaviour from the local police, I’d move away anyway.


50 posted on 07/28/2011 12:09:49 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- mission accomplished)
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