Skip to comments.Sen. Harkin: Nothing prevents Obama from using 14th Amendment
Posted on 07/29/2011 7:37:04 AM PDT by maggief
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) on Friday ramped up growing Democratic pressure on the White House to consider invoking the Fourteenth Amendment to raise the debt ceiling.
"Is there anything that prohibits him from doing that? The answer is no," Harkin said. The White House has been going about the idea the wrong way by asking whether the amendment legally gives the president the power to raise the debt ceiling without Congressional authority, according to Harkin.
Although President Obama indicated last week that his lawyers had looked into the legality of the so-called Fourteenth Amendment solution, he said they were not persuaded that that is a winning argument.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney also made it clear in a briefing on Tuesday that the option was not on the table. The Constitution makes clear that Congress has the authority -- not the president -- to borrow money, Carney said. And only Congress can increase the statutory debt ceiling. Thats just a reality.
But Harkin called it nuts for the White House to indicate they would not consider the option. It should be on the table," he said on the liberal Bill Presss radio show.
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Try actually reading the 14th Admendment Senator. Any sane judge would laugh in your face if you tried to use this Amendment to justify raising the Debt Limit
In that case Mr. Harkin, tell your buddy Ubama to go for it. Take that step, PLEASE?
so what a debt limit in the first place if the President could always do whatever the hell he wanted?
I sure HOPE that the conservatives in Congress have the legal briefs all set to go to the Supreme Court with this issue. If the messiah goes for this lie of the 14th Amendment power to usurp Congress, he needs to be slapped down HARD and articles of impeachment prepared. The safety of the republic is at stake like no other times since the the 1860’s.
“I, (name of Member), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
Advice from Iowa’s fake war hero...
“”Is there anything that prohibits him from doing that? The answer is no,” “
Only the threat of Impeachment...
WOW! So Obama couyld have avoided this whole crisis all along?? I’ll BE Dawg! ;)
I guess the supreme court could issue an injunction. This would be areal delema because it would hold the secretary of treasury libel for following the president’s orders and cite he stop. If he does not, he could go to jail for contempt BUT the zero could pardon him.
Meanwhile, aside from impeachment, what could be done to his excellency.
I hope they do go for it though because it would show the emperor to be exactly what he is.
Fake war veterans have nothing to say to anyone about anything.
How many divisions does Congress have?
The White House has been going about the idea the wrong way by asking whether the amendment legally gives the president the power to raise the debt ceiling without Congressional authority, according to Harkin.Amendment don't do anything ecept permit (neceary) enabling legitlation. If Zero tries this, it will be a non-virtual "bring it on" ping to the entire country.
if that were doable,
obama would have already do do it.
Nothing prevents the citizens from using the 2nd Amendment.
Take Back AMERICA!
FUBO GTFO 2012 !
He is right, nothing prevents Obama from invoking the 14th amendment, but nothing prevents the market to view new and renewable treasuries as toxic as a result of a very constitutionally questionable action.
If he invokes the 14th Amendment, who is going to even consider buying treasuries without a huge premium?
Good luck with that option.
Sixteen, not counting reserves or special operations units.
He should invoke the 14th to take away the 2nd amendment, allow unrestricted abortions, shut down talk radio, and cover the moon with cheese.
It gives him as much right to do those as raise the debt ceiling.
You might want to double check that, last time I looked Obama was commander in chief.
I’m with you. He inherits the entire problem if he pulls the trigger here. GOP would be off the hook. The one stat that has remained steady is the American public has been steadfast in NOT wanting the debt limit raised. I think that’s why he hasn’t used this option.
LOL. Sen. Harkin, you couldn't be more wrong. WE THE PEOPLE are still in charge and you are in our way.
Which part did Obama screw up in inauguration day?
We should have known it would be downhill from there.
The Federal Reserve. EQ3.
One more extra constitutional illegal move by this president may push the SC to "weigh in" - making Obama look like an even bigger tinpot wannabe community organizing race hustler in chief.
Curious why little Tommy Harkin of all people would say this.
Whassat ole Senator Ethanol Dungheap done be sayin’?
And all the officers and troops take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
The 14th amendment prevents him from using the 14th amendment in the way he wants to.
What a J@ckass. The 14th is what will be used for impeachment if the democrats don’t make the debt interest payments. That’s what the debt reference is there for. It says the debt cannot be ignored, not the spending.
Of course Harkin’s, the rest of the democrats and several black robed oligarchs in the Judicial Branch know their supporters are ignoramuses.
Hooray for an uniformed voter base; they made a lot of politicians, bureaucrats and contractors wealthy beyond their dreams.
This would solve so many of Republicans problems, it would unite them again and pass all the deficit blame to Obama. Dream on Republicans. (This also shows how stupid these House progressives are wrt to politics.)
Obama has a MUCH better plan: Get Republicans blamed for both the bad economy AND for the increase in the debt limit by forcing them to do it with little or no budget cuts.
Sorry, Harkin - but constitutional scholars say you’re WRONG.
I’d love to see BHO try it, though. What fun we’d have with him :-))))))))))))
On another note, gold is above $1620!
I don’t need to be pinged to your every utterance here.... thank you very much.
The people have been fools and 0bama has been so in your face that I love the thought of him owning this. We are hopeless. 0bama can take down the United States, but he’s not going to live forever. And he will go down in history for what he has always been and what our founders warned us of.
You have the House and the Senate that make up Congress.
Here’s what’s going to happen. The gop elites will get with the dems and pass a “bi-partisan” bill. All the tea partiers will vote against it so they’ll be covered.
It will be kicked down the road and they’ll have their retirements funded for a few more years.
Obama gets re-elected in 2012 and then the destruction of America will almost be complete.
“Is there anything that prohibits him from doing that? The answer is no,”
Wrong answer, s##t for brains. The Constitution prevents it and you can bet the court will prevent it.
“The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, ...”
Debt above the legal debt limit is not authorized by law.
The argument that he can unilaterally issue illegal debt is bunk.
divisions yes as in more then one large militray unit .... division.
I actually forgot a few pings, not sure how you got on that list
He didn’t screw anything up. He wanted to take the “real” oath on the Koran.
Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article
Where does this happa get off talking about using the 14th?