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House panel approves broadened ISP snooping bill
CNet ^ | 28 July 2011 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 07/29/2011 9:22:36 AM PDT by Notary Sojac

Internet providers would be forced to keep logs of their customers' activities for one year--in case police want to review them in the future--under legislation that a U.S. House of Representatives committee approved today.

The 19 to 10 vote represents a victory for conservative Republicans, who made data retention their first major technology initiative after last fall's elections, and the Justice Department officials who have quietly lobbied for the sweeping new requirements, a development first reported by CNET.

A last-minute rewrite of the bill expands the information that commercial Internet providers are required to store to include customers' names, addresses, phone numbers, credit card numbers, bank account numbers, and temporarily-assigned IP addresses, some committee members suggested. By a 7-16 vote, the panel rejected an amendment that would have clarified that only IP addresses must be stored.

It represents "a data bank of every digital act by every American" that would "let us find out where every single American visited Web sites," said Rep. Zoe Lofgren of California, who led Democratic opposition to the bill.

Lofgren said the data retention requirements are easily avoided because they only apply to "commercial" providers. Criminals would simply go to libraries or Starbucks coffeehouses and use the Web anonymously, she said, while law-abiding Americans would have their activities recorded.

To make it politically difficult to oppose, proponents of the data retention requirements dubbed the bill the Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011, even though the mandatory logs would be accessible to police investigating any crime and perhaps attorneys litigating civil disputes in divorce, insurance fraud, and other cases as well.

"The bill is mislabeled," said Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, the senior Democrat on the panel. "This is not protecting children from Internet pornography. It's creating a database for everybody in this country for a lot of other purposes."

Supporters of the measure characterized it as something that would aid law enforcement in investigating Internet crimes. Not enacting it "would keep our law enforcement officials in the dark ages," said its primary sponsor, House Judiciary chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas).

"Both Democratic and Republican administrations have called for data retention for over a decade," said Smith, who noted that groups including the National Sheriffs' Association, the Major County Sheriffs' Association, and the Fraternal Order of Police have endorsed the concept.

For a while, it seemed like opposition from a handful of conservative members of Congress, coupled with Democrats concerned about civil liberties, would derail the bill.

Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican and previous chairman of the House Judiciary committee, had criticized it at a hearing earlier this month, and again in the voting session that began yesterday and continued through this morning.

"I oppose this bill," said Sensenbrenner. "It can be amended, but I don't think it can be fixed... It poses numerous risks that well outweigh any benefits, and I'm not convinced it will contribute in a significant way to protecting children."

So did Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who has made privacy a signature issue and introduced a geolocation bill last month after trying to curb the use of airport body-scanners two years ago.

The original version of the bill, introduced in May, required Internet providers to "retain for a period of at least 18 months the temporarily assigned network addresses the service assigns to each account, unless that address is transmitted by radio communication." The wireless exemption appeared to be the result of lobbying from major carriers, but drew the ire of the Justice Department, which says it didn't go far enough, and was removed in a revised draft.

The mobile exemption represents a new twist in the debate over data retention requirements, which has been simmering since the Justice Department pushed the topic in 2005, a development that was first reported by CNET. Proposals publicly surfaced in the U.S. Congress the following year, and President Bush's attorney general, Alberto Gonzales said it's an issue that "must be addressed." So, eventually, did FBI director Robert Mueller.

In January 2011, CNET was the first to report that the Obama Justice Department was following suit. Jason Weinstein, the deputy assistant attorney general for the criminal division, warned that wireless providers must be included because "when this information is not stored, it may be impossible for law enforcement to collect essential evidence."

Smith introduced a broadly similar bill in 2007, without the wireless exemption, calling it a necessary anti-cybercrime measure. "The legislation introduced today will give law enforcement the tools it needs to find and prosecute criminals," he said in a statement at the time.

"Retention" vs. "preservation" At the moment, Internet service providers typically discard any log file that's no longer required for business reasons such as network monitoring, fraud prevention, or billing disputes. Companies do, however, alter that general rule when contacted by police performing an investigation--a practice called data preservation.

A 1996 federal law called the Electronic Communication Transactional Records Act regulates data preservation. It requires Internet providers to retain any "record" in their possession for 90 days "upon the request of a governmental entity."

Because Internet addresses remain a relatively scarce commodity, ISPs tend to allocate them to customers from a pool based on whether a computer is in use at the time. (Two standard techniques used are the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol and Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet.)

In addition, an existing law called the Protect Our Children Act of 2008 requires any Internet provider who "obtains actual knowledge" of possible child pornography transmissions to "make a report of such facts or circumstances." Companies that knowingly fail to comply can be fined up to $150,000 for the first offense and up to $300,000 for each subsequent offense.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Michigan; US: Utah; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; california; internet; michigan; spying; tyranny; utah; wisconsin
I suppose we can hope that Harry Reid and the Democrats in the Senate will stop this bucket of s**t.

But then, who has the cojones to vote against the "Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011"???

1 posted on 07/29/2011 9:22:40 AM PDT by Notary Sojac
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To: Notary Sojac

Did I read this correctly? The conservatives wanted the freedom limiting bill? What the heck?


2 posted on 07/29/2011 9:26:53 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Notary Sojac

With TOR browser all your ISP will have to turn over is a heap of encrypted and garbled nonsense.

FREE-EASY TO USE

https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser


3 posted on 07/29/2011 9:28:10 AM PDT by Bobalu (He who is compassionate to the cruel will ultimately become cruel to the compassionate)
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To: madison10
Did I read this correctly? The conservatives wanted the freedom limiting bill? What the heck?

The Stupid Party strikes again.

The GOP - Doing Everything We Can To Re-Elect Obama.

4 posted on 07/29/2011 9:37:00 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: madison10

Republicans wanted the bill. I’m not sure conservatives really supported it. There is pressure on the Tea Partiers to conform.


5 posted on 07/29/2011 9:39:14 AM PDT by spaced
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To: Notary Sojac

Shi$.

If you want to do something nefarious, you just get a cheap used laptop and devote that computer to your bad stuff only and only use public wi-fi at multiple locations.

This is getting to be as much of a joke as the TSA.

It’s a good thing our economy/culture is looking on the verge of hitting the reset button. I could not take much more of this bullshi$.


6 posted on 07/29/2011 9:45:33 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Notary Sojac

I have not been much of a fan of F. James Sensenbrenner but he is right on this point. This bill is a fetid piece of ****.

As remarked, get any good piece of **** laptop and use it only for controversial Internetting and even run software to spoof the MAC adress. And avoide places where you have to give up your credit card number.

> Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican and previous chairman of the House Judiciary committee, had criticized it at a hearing earlier this month, and again in the voting session that began yesterday and continued through this morning.

> “I oppose this bill,” said Sensenbrenner. “It can be amended, but I don’t think it can be fixed... It poses numerous risks that well outweigh any benefits, and I’m not convinced it will contribute in a significant way to protecting children.”


7 posted on 07/29/2011 10:02:59 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Notary Sojac

Not that it makes a nickel’s worth of difference anymore, but this bill makes a hash of the constitutional presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law.


8 posted on 07/29/2011 10:17:11 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Notary Sojac
This bill is for the parents who want the whole world sanitized for their children so they don't have to actually do any parenting.
9 posted on 07/29/2011 10:23:55 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you donÂ’t vote for the best candidate, youÂ’re no different than a draft-dodger.)
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To: Notary Sojac

I’ll just use my laptop for the net and go war driving when I want to see something interesting.


10 posted on 07/29/2011 10:35:33 AM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: Notary Sojac

This is very bad news! It was passed by the RINO establishment. Eric Holder is licking his chops.


11 posted on 07/29/2011 10:39:29 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Bobalu

Thanks Bobalu!


12 posted on 07/29/2011 10:40:17 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Notary Sojac.
Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican and previous chairman of the House Judiciary committee, had criticized it at a hearing earlier this month, and again in the voting session that began yesterday and continued through this morning. "I oppose this bill," said Sensenbrenner. "It can be amended, but I don't think it can be fixed... It poses numerous risks that well outweigh any benefits, and I'm not convinced it will contribute in a significant way to protecting children."

13 posted on 07/29/2011 2:50:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: madison10

the republicans, not the conservatives


14 posted on 07/29/2011 3:49:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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