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Posted on 07/29/2011 9:33:37 AM PDT by yoe
PRAGUE (AP) -- They're the Czech Republic's fourth-largest political party, but the hardline Communists could soon be outlawed if the center-right government has its way.
It's more than two decades since communism collapsed here, but the survivors and ideological heirs to the party that ruled from 1948 until the "Velvet Revolution" of 1989 are under increasing political pressure.
Petr Necas' government has taken the first step toward a possible ban by asking the Interior Ministry to work on a legal complaint to make it happen. A study commissioned by a Senate committee compiled numerous complaints from lawmakers about their conduct.
The party, which is vehemently opposed to NATO, brands opponents "terrorists" and maintains friendly ties with the ruling Communists in Cuba, China and North Korea.
Unlike most other communist parties in the region that have joined the left-wing mainstream, the Czech party has maintained its hardline stance.
Supporters of the ban say it is a direct successor of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia, whose members killed more than 240 political prisoners while thousands of other opponents died in prisons.
Jaromir Stetina, the main force behind the Senate report, said the Communists are an anachronism.
The Czech Communists adore the violent communism based on Marx and Lenin," Stetina told The Associated Press. "They adore revolutionary violence."
He says the party should have been banned immediately after the Velvet Revolution.
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When the Communists were in power they banned everyone else. So what’s their complaint?
Exactly. That’s what they’ve done in this country and the idiots love them.
It’s ok, I suspect most of the commies are here now.
Maybe they don’t want to be like them in any way.
Then round them up and, well, I’ll leave the rest your “collective” [cough, ahem...] imaginations...
Personally, I think the Czech Patriots should make every effort to identify any former member of the Czech communist party that had anything to do with the former communist government, arrest them immediately, and turn them over to the families and relatives of people that died under that reign of terror for a couple of hours.
Just a commie alone, with no comrades to support him, in a room with some pissed off and armed people who have dead, tortured relatives thanks to that ideology.
That’s REAL “social justice”, boys and girls.
Was that wrong? Was that harsh? Was that mean, insensitive and intolerant? Do I care?
Can we outlaw the Democrat party? Same thing.
Bravo for the Czechs. Any totalitarian gov’t should be banned and those that support them should be punished.
A part of me doesn’t like the idea of banning any party.
Several other parts of me would just as soon shoot all the commies as merely ban them.
See my post #10.
However, I'm not sure banning their party will have the desired effect. Political movements, no matter how evil, can become more appealing, more chic, when their are banned. The fact they can claim they are "persecuted" generates sympathy from people who otherwise would not support them.
No, instead of a ban, a madia campaign reminding the citizenry of the attrocities committed by communists would be more effective. Make it a mandatory part of the school curriculum, as early as the third grade. These sorts of things are more likely to work.
Interesting how some countries see the communist party for what they are and our country, who has fought against communism doesn’t.
Impy, that's because it's the American part of you, and me too - I TOTALLY understand that part; the part that believes in fair play, playing by the rules, giving the other guy the benefit of the doubt that he's loyal opposition but still an American that merely disagress with us.
All part of all the good, decent things that MADE us America for a long time. Things your good parents taught you and imparted to you by their good example.
And it's also the very qualitiess that the POS's we have with us now have studied and manipulated and used as weaknesses within our system and within us to exploit to their advantage.
Never forget who they really are, what they're end game is, and what they want to do to you, me, and all of us if they get the opportunity. They're not us - they're a foreign, subversive ideology that wants to kill everything and everyone we love, ultimately.
One of their 1963 Goals was stated thusly: "Resist ANY and ALL attempts to outlaw the Communist Party."
They knew/know they couldn't do what they want to do if they had to stay underground 100% of the time.
And as for the shoot 'em all part...well, if they raise a fist, I say we raise a sledgehammer and go from there, and I'll leave it at that.
A great idea! Now let’s work on banning the Democratic Party from the US.
Nothing so dangerous as an idea who’s time has come, eh? Hahah!
I agree. Banning them won’t solve the problem. A free and open exchange of ideas is essential to any freedom loving people. Even the grotesque and disgusting ideas. Education is the key. Educate the children on the evils of communism as you said. As long as they know and never forget. Hence why memorials and days set aside for memorializing are so important IMO.
Shooting the perps in the street makes for a more peaceful post-revolution period. Mussolini and Chauchesku ceased being a threat as soon as they hit room temperature.
“We are the party of the Czechoslovak proletariat and our general headquarters are in Moscow. And we go to Moscow to learn, and do you know what we learn? We go to Moscow to learn from the Russian Bolsheviks how to wring your necks.”
- Klement Gottwald Speech to the Czech Parliament in 1929 (Gottwald eventually became the leader of post-war Communist Czechoslovakia)
The Communists are to political parties as the Mafia is to business organizations. Both are criminal enterprises and as such should be OUTLAWED!
Good. Now when are WE going to do the same?
Many of the former Eastern Bloc countries and ex-Soviet Republics have become some of the most ardently anti-communist and pro-free-market countries in the world.
How about we start with impeachment?
Russia will NOT be pleased, as they still support Communist parties outside of their near-abroad.
Excellent point! Why is putting the word "Party" after something make it OK? I could create the "NAMBLA Party", would that make it OK?
It’s common sense that totalitarian and revolutionary parties be banned. Or one with an armed “military wing”
How about a novel idea. Hold the communists accountable to their brutal rule. Prosecute and jail them. Remind the useful idiots why they should avoid communism. For some reason, communists get a pass on accountability.
Communist Parties are treasonous at their core. They should be banned.
It looks as though there are smart people in Eastern Europe. Or is it just that those people know what Communism is REALLY like?
Hunt down the individuals who ran the death camps, the murderers of political prisoners, and put them on trial. Continue the hunt relentlessly for years, exactly like the Israelis did against the Nazis.
I lived in the Czech Republic for nine years (2001-2010). Heh.....I actually taught a few English lessons through my old school for the General Secretary.
The problem with the KSCM (Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia) is that they’re essentially unreconstructed communists; they still adhere to the Leninist doctrine of armed revolution and insurrection. Simply put, they advocate overthrowing the government by armed force.
I asked my student (Mr. Meciar)why don’t they do away with that particular part of the Party program; he looked at me like I just stepped out of a UFO from Zeta Reticuli or something. As he put it, the KSCM are “ideologically pure and consistent in line with Marxist/Leninist principles”.
Now, here’s the best part!! He was so impressed with my lessons and teaching methodology (which was to engage him in political debates, which he genuinely enjoyed) that, without my knowledge, he recommended me to the North Koreans. So, one fine evening, I was sitting at home with my ex-wife in Prague, and the phone rings: she picks it up, and turns white as a ghost. She says to me, “Honey, the North Korean embassy would like to speak with you.” You could imagine my surprise! So, I spoke to a gentleman from the DPRK Embassy in Prague, and he extended an invitation for me to come and teach English to “’high ranking Party and military leaders’”.......IN PYONGYANG!!! And my ex-wife could come with me, of course. I told the gentleman I’d have to speak to my wife first, and I’d get back in touch with him. So, I asked my ex, “Whaddaya say, pumpkin? Wanna take an all-expenses paid trip to lovely Pyongyang for a one-year teaching assignment?” (Tongue-in-cheek, of course) Her response was, “Do you want me to kill you in your sleep tonight?” Needless to say, I declined, and I would’ve anyway, because I had the sneaking suspicion that if I, as an American, went over there I’d have my passport taken and conveniently “misplaced”. Forever.
So, I thus missed my chance (along with my ex!) for that prime spot on the reviewing stand next to Dear Leader.
Being an American expat English teacher?
Greatest. Job. Ever.
How can you do it (from a practicality point)?
They’ll just call themselves Democrats - like they do in the USA.
That could have been Cuba.
I agree, but it's not all that practical.
The massacres mostly occurred during 1950's or earlier. There was also the crackdown on the Prague Spring of 1968. Nearly everyone who was complicit in the atrocities is already dead. The handful of perps still around are going to very, very old, more than likely living in Russia, and it will be a cold day in hell before Putin lets the Czechs or any other outside nation touch them.
I think their utopianism, all by itself, determines the treatment they deserve as a political organization. They repudiate all non-communist societies and set themselves up as their mortal enemies. The political structures within those societies are there for the society’s benefit, they are not there to be “gamed” by its mortal enemies. Communist parties should be banned and their leaders thrown in jail in accordance with the Smith Act. What keeps this from happening is a decadent view of freedom popular among self-satisfied elite boobs.
Impy, communism is intrinsically evil and people who do commie organizing are engaged in criminal behavior. So, yes, it is proper to criminalize this type of politics.
Same thing with the Nazis. They are criminals. Organized crime. (Just my viewpoint.)
“What’s stopping them from calling themselves Democrats instead?”
This is true, the Czechs “conservtives” should be warned that a name is but a name. You can’t ban a political party, you just force them to become something more dangerous. A politician that supports every aspect of the communist agenda but deny’s it.
I suppose you’ve seen the video here
I thought that was the Democrat Party...after all just ask Barney Frank....
That’s the thing, they can just form a new party.
And if they ban the espousing of communism all together they can just call their policies something else.
Yes and yes, CF.
What’s a practical way to “ban” a political party? There isn’t one that I can see.
Sorry! You’re Impy, not CF.
WAY early on a Sunday morning :)
Not in a democracy anyway. Ideas can’t be killed, only the people that have them. (which brings me back to the shooting them part ;) )
I’m with you 1,000%!!!