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President announces deal to boost fuel economy
AP ^ | 7-29-11 | DINA CAPPIELLO and TOM KRISHER

Posted on 07/29/2011 11:07:29 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

WASHINGTON—Ushering in the largest decrease in auto fuel consumption since the 1970s, President Barack Obama and automobile manufacturers Friday announced a deal that will save drivers money at the pump and dramatically cut heat-trapping gases coming from tailpipes. The agreement pledges to double overall fuel economy to 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025, bringing major under-the-hood changes for the nation's automobiles starting in model year 2017. Cars and trucks on the road today average 27 miles per gallon.

"This agreement on fuel standards represents the single most important step we have taken as a nation to reduce our dependence on foreign oil," Obama said, sharing the stage with top executives of the major auto makers before a backdrop of some of the most cutting-edge cars on the road.

"Just as cars will go further on a gallon of gas, our economy will go further on a barrel of oil," Obama said.

When achieved, the 54.5 mile-per-gallon target will reduce U.S. oil consumption from vehicles by 40 percent and halve the amount of greenhouse gas pollution coming out of exhausts.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cafe; climatechange; cooling; economy; fuel; gas; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenhouse; magicwand; messiah; nutjob; obama; obamao; oil; pharoah; tincan; warning
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Number of government-owned limos has soared under Obama

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Only privately owned vehicles have a carbon footprint.

1 posted on 07/29/2011 11:07:34 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

This guys has flipped his wig. hate him


2 posted on 07/29/2011 11:10:03 AM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The mask is slipping form the DC Political media machine. The truth is coming out. This is why Progressive Facists in the 0-bot media are in hysteria today

The big DC political machine lie of this whole thing is the GOP needs a bill.

NO, the 0 Democrats need a bill. They are the party of spend. They are the ones who have to go to the voters in 2012 and defend their total mishandling of the economy for the last 4 years.

The GOP candidate in 2012 is going to be running against DC. The 2012 election will be a referendum on 0’s Presidency.

Time for people to quit buying the propaganda fed them by the DNC Media-Political machine, the 0 Dems, not the GOP, will be hurt the worst by a failure to strike a deal.

Here what you do GOP, you tell the Senate “Sorry but all your Debt bills are D.O.A. CCB was the compromise, if you want a bill, there it is.”.


3 posted on 07/29/2011 11:10:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Only 54.5 MPG?! Why not 100 or a 1,000. Pharoah just has to say it, it will be written, it will be done...


4 posted on 07/29/2011 11:11:04 AM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

So if this goes the way everything else Obozo has touched then the fuel consumption of cars will get worse instead of better.

It’s like this guy is living in opposite land or bizzaro world.

He’s the biggest loser. Just wish we could say goodbye and kick him off the show.


5 posted on 07/29/2011 11:12:17 AM PDT by RickB444 (Worry about and distrust anyone who fears a lawful person owning a gun.)
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To: Made In The USA

f=ma remains as the law of physics. If the car survives, if the driver compartment survives, it means nothing if your brains and guts are turned to chum by the deceleration forces. Modern autos are designed with crumple zones for this reason- mitigate the forces before they reach the human. And to accomplish that goal, it takes area and distance, over which these forces are dissipated.

(IE: a bigger car)


6 posted on 07/29/2011 11:12:22 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Can I install some ‘heat trapping gas’ in the walls of my house as insulation?

...


7 posted on 07/29/2011 11:12:30 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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8 posted on 07/29/2011 11:13:29 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I seriously thought this was satire. Seriously.


9 posted on 07/29/2011 11:14:32 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: WayneS

heckdang , yes! probably even get a subsidy to do so.


10 posted on 07/29/2011 11:14:58 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
This will require the gas tax to double, of course.
11 posted on 07/29/2011 11:15:03 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Everyone will be driving Mopeds!


12 posted on 07/29/2011 11:15:53 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

A dumbass, Chicago community organizer has figured out how to get 54.5 miles per gallon?! Outstanding! I wonder how much THIS is going to cost us. BTW: Isn’t this admitting that the community organizer doesn’t have much “hope” for GM’s Voltswagen and other “electric” cars?


13 posted on 07/29/2011 11:16:12 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Barry! Compromise this!!!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
That would save $8,000 in fuel costs over the life of a vehicle, he said...

I'll bet meeting this new standard will add more than $8,000 to the cost of a vehicle.

14 posted on 07/29/2011 11:16:41 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: RickB444
So if this goes the way everything else Obozo has touched ...
Not just 0bama, it's every program any liberal has touched in the last 50 years - FAIL!
15 posted on 07/29/2011 11:17:01 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

This will be removed as soon as obama is replaced.

LLS


16 posted on 07/29/2011 11:19:38 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Obama is an idiot.


17 posted on 07/29/2011 11:20:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

President Palin will reverse this deal.


18 posted on 07/29/2011 11:20:29 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Use cardboard covered with aluminum foil and you can achieve 100+ MPG.
19 posted on 07/29/2011 11:20:33 AM PDT by JPG (Yes she can!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

And the “logic” is the increased cost of the cars will be offset by the fuel economy. So, why stop at 54.5, why not demand 100 mpg?

So what if a Focus costs $90k.

Let them eat cake.


20 posted on 07/29/2011 11:23:21 AM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Ushering in the largest decrease in auto fuel consumption since the 1970s, President Barack Obama and automobile manufacturers Friday announced a deal that will save drivers money at the pump and dramatically cut heat-trapping gases coming from tailpipes.

First, this sentence is nothing but cheerleading prose from the media.

Second, they do not tell you that it will add $10,000 to the price of an automobile. So, you will save money at the pump, but lose money overall because it is more than offset by an increase in the price of the vehicle!

21 posted on 07/29/2011 11:23:46 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Made In The USA

I bet 54.5 MPG came to him while he was sitting on the pottie or smoking the pottie


22 posted on 07/29/2011 11:23:52 AM PDT by molson209
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Well, if all those new cars are using that much less, then there will be lots of gas left over. Prices will go down, right?

Supply and demand, right?

.


23 posted on 07/29/2011 11:24:22 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: brownsfan

FAR from warming the planet rapidly, man-made pollution might actually be contributing to a slowing of global warming, a US study suggests.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/man-made-pollution-reflects-sun/story-e6frg6xf-1226099326730

drive MORE NOW!


24 posted on 07/29/2011 11:24:47 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: RetroSexual
I seriously thought this was satire. Seriously.

So did I! I kept looking for the sarcasm tag.

25 posted on 07/29/2011 11:25:48 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Yeah ... let's see this thing get 54 mpg:

He'll ride around in that while the rest of us get this ....


26 posted on 07/29/2011 11:27:40 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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the single most important step we have taken as a nation to reduce our dependence on foreign oil," Obama said

Because DRILLING for our own damn oil is out of the question, thanks to you!

27 posted on 07/29/2011 11:29:22 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“drive MORE NOW!”

No one has any idea what’s going on. The only honest scientists are the ones that admit the climate changes, and the system is far to complex for us to decipher at this point in time.

In the early 70s they taught us particulate pollution was blocking out the sun’s energy, and we’d have an ice age by the year 2000. They also taught us acid rain would be so severe, you wouldn’t be able to go out in the rain without protection.

Garbage is what they tried to teach us.


28 posted on 07/29/2011 11:30:29 AM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
This Kenyan-Commie is about tech savvy, as a ameba in the real world,Cow dung huts, would be the extent of his tiny brain./p>
29 posted on 07/29/2011 11:34:48 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

As of today there are 2500 out of work Rocket Scientists (bye, bye NASA), and the big O will have them get right on this, no worries.


30 posted on 07/29/2011 11:40:54 AM PDT by wrench
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Dictator Obama has broken so many laws a few more won’t be of concern to him.

Now he has ordered the automobile manufacturers to break the laws of physics, mechanics and thermodynamics.


31 posted on 07/29/2011 11:42:18 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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32 posted on 07/29/2011 11:47:18 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Nothing all that new here.

33 posted on 07/29/2011 11:49:17 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Second, they do not tell you that it will add $10,000 to the price of an automobile. “

Interesting to put it in numbers. Let’s assume an average driver, driving a Ford Focus. That driver does around 15k miles a year, and gets 30mpg. That driver keeps the car 10 years, and the price of gas averages $5/gallon for the life of the car.

That’s 500 gallons of gas to go 15000 miles at $5/gal. = $2500 in gas, or $25,000 in gas for 10 years.

Now assume the driver pays an extra $10k for a new Focus that gets 54.5 mpg. That’s 275 gallons of gas to go 15000 miles. Or, $1375 a year. In 10 years it’s $13,750 in gas cost.

So, for the new improved Focus it will cost you $23,750, versus $25,000 for the old Focus. But, using an ugly interest environment of 2%, the $10k upfront is worth $12,190. That results in new Focus $12,190 cash cost + $13,750 fuel cost = $25,940 vs. $25,000 for the old Focus.

So, in reality, you will pay an extra $940 minimum, for the privilege of getting better gas mileage.

Your mileage may vary.


34 posted on 07/29/2011 11:54:05 AM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: Made In The USA
Pharoah just has to say it, it will be written, it will be done...

Memo

From: BBMFIC; Department of Federally Mandated Engineering
To: All 2 Feather & Above Staff DFoFME Engineers

We are going to need bigger gallons and shorter miles real soon now!

Gotcha Boss, we'll get right on that for ya...(if ya can't raise the bridge ya can lower the water)

Regards,
GtG

35 posted on 07/29/2011 11:57:01 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Are you kidding me? My motorcycles don't get 54.5 mpg (Gold Wings). Are we supposed to drive lawn mowers?

I don't see being able to haul Michelle's big fat A around with a car like that.

36 posted on 07/29/2011 12:01:39 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (White Hetero Able Male (WHAM) a.k.a. NOT Holder's people)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

AMEN! I miss my ‘77 Cutlass, had at least half a mile of hood before the windshield taste-test. With my Chebby small block and quadrajet squirtin’ away I got 8 MPG (drove it like a rental).


37 posted on 07/29/2011 12:07:48 PM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

To meet such a standard, one of the necessary changes will undoubtedly be a reduction of the weight and crashworthiness of the average car. They won’t be making tractor-trailers any smaller, though.

How many additional people will die every year because of this deal? Five hundred? One thousand? Several thousand?

But, hey, it’s a small price to pay for progress... /s

Look for this deal to bring increased employment of accident-site cleanup workers and mortuary technicians, as well as increased overtime pay for first-responders and bereavement counselors.

(Not that it would matter to Obama)


38 posted on 07/29/2011 12:20:11 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: TLI

C’mon...forget Supply and Demand. The deep drop in the use of gasoline will drastically harm the TAX REVENUE of the many states (all) that need, feed off, and waste .
This will mean that gas itself drops to $.85 per gallon while the TAX climbs to $11.75.
This is a dilusional bit of nonsense.


39 posted on 07/29/2011 12:35:24 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Resident Obama thinks he is above the law.
He thinks he is above the law of the constitution
He thinks he is above the laws of economics
He thinks he is above the laws of physics.
There is no law that Obama must obey, he is above the law- he is the one!
40 posted on 07/29/2011 12:45:48 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Correct me if I’m wrong, but since when did the power of the Presidency reach to making deals with car companies?

I thought CONGRESSS made laws!


41 posted on 07/29/2011 1:04:28 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: al_c

HAHAHAHAHA Nice touch, the teleprompters.


42 posted on 07/29/2011 1:26:32 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Nachum
more rolling death traps?


43 posted on 07/29/2011 3:15:24 PM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter who fails to keep faith with the Military, will NOT keep faith with YOU!)
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To: Made In The USA

when do they let the hydrogen development out of the bag?


44 posted on 07/29/2011 3:16:27 PM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter who fails to keep faith with the Military, will NOT keep faith with YOU!)
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To: GailA
"...when do they let the hydrogen development out of the bag?..."

Right after 0bumbles gets the three or more miracles needed to make Hydrogen feasible ........................ FRegards

45 posted on 07/29/2011 9:38:49 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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46 posted on 07/30/2011 5:24:02 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
President announces deal to boost fuel economy

President announces deal to further destroy the economy. He's got a place waiting for him on the trash heap of history. He can't get there too soon.
47 posted on 07/30/2011 5:25:28 AM PDT by aruanan
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48 posted on 07/30/2011 5:25:35 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: Red Badger

Ping


49 posted on 07/30/2011 5:29:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: WayneS
I'll bet meeting this new standard will add more than $8,000 to the cost of a vehicle.

Or they'll do it without tech, and just sell you an Escort and charge you for the Expedition anyway (which amounts to the same thing on your end).

50 posted on 07/30/2011 8:48:41 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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