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Obama Unveils Sharp Increase In Auto Fuel Economy
Reuters ^ | 29 July 2011 | Ayesha Rascoe and Deepa Seetharaman

Posted on 07/29/2011 12:55:48 PM PDT by edpc

WASHINGTON/DETROIT (Reuters) - Several major automakers on Friday embraced the Obama administration's proposal to push the industry further away from once-dominant gas guzzlers to more lean and efficient vehicles.

The proposal, which is the result of months of negotiations between the Obama administration and automakers, would require automakers to reach an average fuel efficiency across their fleets of 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automobile; bho44; economy; obama
Flanked by top auto maker executives, Obama said the new rules would lower the country's oil use by 2.2 million barrels a day over the next 15 years and save U.S. consumers almost $2 trillion in fuel costs.

What calculations are they using for the price of gas 15 years from now? It's almost 4X more expensive than it was 15 years ago.

1 posted on 07/29/2011 12:55:53 PM PDT by edpc
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To: edpc
I thought the commies were going to force everyone into driving GM Volts by 2025. There isn't going to be any need for oil and gasoline. Oil companies will be giving it away.

(Better add this) SARC/

2 posted on 07/29/2011 1:01:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Barry! Compromise this!!!)
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To: edpc

Also coming - a sharp increase in highway deaths.


3 posted on 07/29/2011 1:02:41 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: beethovenfan
Also coming - a sharp increase in highway deaths

This side affect dovetails nicely with the purpose of Obamacare.

4 posted on 07/29/2011 1:04:45 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: edpc
The gas we are getting today has several factors leading to repair problems. It is now 10% ethanol and will go to 20% next year ...then eventually 50%.

That fuel gets less mileage, so we use more of it. It is also prone to generating moisture (water) which erodes many of the parts in the engine and fuel system such as carburetors and injectors.

5 posted on 07/29/2011 1:07:20 PM PDT by Baynative (If the government was in charge of the desert , we'd soon have a shortage of sand.)
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To: edpc

Since it’s an average, look for Ford Motor to offer a 50cc motor scooter that get 150 mpg.


6 posted on 07/29/2011 1:08:51 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: GingisK

Auto industry, check
Oil industry, check
Healthcare industry, check
Financial industry, check
College loans, check
Our savings, check
Ruling the country by executive fiat, check

Yup, pretty much destroyed America


7 posted on 07/29/2011 1:09:47 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law)
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To: edpc
Obama Unveils Sharp Increase In Auto Fuel Economy

He's cancelled the Second Law of Thermodynamics?

8 posted on 07/29/2011 1:12:07 PM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: edpc

Why 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025?
Think big. Big round numbers.

How about 100 miles per gallon by 2025?
At least 1000 miles per gallon by 2050.
Minimum 10000000 miles per gallon by 2100.


9 posted on 07/29/2011 1:14:20 PM PDT by Zuse
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While he’s at it, I sure hope he sets some regulations covering tinsel strength for suspenders.

We need him to address issues like this. Who else is going to do it if he doesn’t?

Damn it!

The nation is going to hell in a hand basket, and this fruit loop thinks gas mileage is his mandate.

FO you illegitimate POS.


10 posted on 07/29/2011 1:17:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ($1.8 tril yearly deficits = $18 tril in ten years. So now we're proposing $4 tril in cuts? Really?)
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To: edpc

My guess? Waivers will be handed out like candy to the DNC’s campaign contributors.


11 posted on 07/29/2011 1:22:39 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: edpc

Should Read:

“BO set BS, unattainable, “feel-good”, targets, rather than do something useful” ....again.....


12 posted on 07/29/2011 1:23:48 PM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: edpc

Thank God.

By then, I’ll either be dead or sitting in the corner of a darkened room, drooling and not really caring about much more than keeping flies from getting in my face.


13 posted on 07/29/2011 1:26:08 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: edpc

Why would automakers embrace such fascism? Is it merely because Hussein held a gun to their heads? If I were a capitalist king, I would tell Hussein to shove his regulations high and deep—and that I intend to make cars that are WANTED BY THE PUBLIC.


14 posted on 07/29/2011 1:28:57 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: edpc

This administrations disconnect is the purist form of existentialism you will ever see.


15 posted on 07/29/2011 1:29:29 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: edpc

Sure we auto company executives can do this Mr President - in 15 years I am going to be on a beach far out of US jurisdiction and it will be my 3rd generation successors who will be paying your tax bills and sweating the aluminum foil car bodies and the engines powered by liters of liquid unobtanium that this conservative proposal requires. Yepper, sure enjoyed my photo op with you, it will be a real keepsake for my kids, I’m leaving them a dartboard as well.


16 posted on 07/29/2011 1:30:21 PM PDT by SES1066 (1776 to 2011, 235 years and counting in the GRAND EXPERIMENT!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Well the voltage for these hybrids is pretty much a Pie-in-the-Sky figure to begin with based on a hypothetical driving profile that probably applies to very few. Factor that ridiculous number into the average fleet mileage and you can make it anything you want. Similar to the way the CBO cooks the books on the US budget or the FED does for economic forecasts.


17 posted on 07/29/2011 1:34:55 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Tallguy

“voltage” should be “mileage”.


18 posted on 07/29/2011 1:36:28 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: edpc

Someone needs to require an amendment that says that all elected members of the federal government may not travel in any vehicle that doesn’t comply with these fuel mileage standards.


19 posted on 07/29/2011 1:36:59 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: edpc
To be repealed by a women who drives a pickup and knows how to shoot who is from an outlying state.....

As one of my "auto gnomes" noted we are making people movers not family movers especially with the MPG fixation trunk space and extra space for kids goes bye-bye.

Then again they are trying to fundamentally transform the American Family too.....

An all aluminum Diesel/Hybrid Minivan to meet these numbers? I don't think so, the Mom and Dad with 4 kids will not be able to swing it, my guess it it would be $10,000 more than a Volt...

20 posted on 07/29/2011 1:41:24 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: edpc
Okey-Dokey.

Now, my 200MPG carbureator will FINALLY be released to the public????

/sarc

How many of the "Automotive Executives" were from Obama Motors? (Chrysler/GM)?????

Which major donors (including the UAW) got this benefit to their jobs longevity, and what Green Donors will get even MORE taxpayer-extorted money into their pockets?

FOLLOW THE MONEY, FOLKS.

21 posted on 07/29/2011 1:41:44 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Tallguy

exactly. If every manufacturer produces a Leaf type car (complete plug in) how many MPG does that count for on the cafe?

Remember GM’s 2 wheeled version of the segway?


22 posted on 07/29/2011 1:42:58 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

Maybe they’ll come up with a “carbon equivalency mileage” figure so that they can lump electrics, hybrids & Internal-Combustion auto’s together? Maybe I should keep my mouth shut & not give the enviro-nazi’s any ideas...


23 posted on 07/29/2011 1:47:02 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: edpc
What a cop out! I'd much rather he raised it to 168 miles per gallon.

ML/NJ

24 posted on 07/29/2011 1:50:35 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Jim Noble

The Great Obama has spoken! Let it be writ. Let it be done.


25 posted on 07/29/2011 2:20:12 PM PDT by tumblindice ("We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo)
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To: edpc
The best way to save on gasoline in the future will be to build a steam powered car and set it up to burn those worthless Obama trillion dollar bills.


26 posted on 07/29/2011 2:20:57 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: edpc

Tagline. There is nothing more to say.


27 posted on 07/29/2011 2:23:01 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: edpc
The Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Transportation, the agencies developing the new standards, will release the full details of the program by the end of September.

Here's an idea: Eliminate the EPA and U.S. DOT instead. What do they do for us?

28 posted on 07/29/2011 2:32:08 PM PDT by MulberryDraw ( Where's the democrat budget? What's the plan?)
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To: edpc
The proposal, which is the result of months of negotiations between the Obama administration and automakers,

Only in DC do the idiots think they can negotiate or bend the laws of thermodynamics

average fuel efficiency across their fleets of 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025.

An average of 54.5 MPG would mean some of the cars would be even higher than the average and by what possible means can we get 60 plus MPG in other than a moped ?

29 posted on 07/29/2011 2:46:58 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: edpc

We’re just doing to him with this balanced budget amendment what he’d like to do to me for wanting a big motor BMW.


30 posted on 07/29/2011 2:49:37 PM PDT by Sundog (It takes a darn good reason for me to break down and post something these days.)
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To: GingisK
Also coming - a sharp increase in highway deaths This side affect dovetails nicely with the purpose of Obamacare.

I honestly don't believe that's a coincidence. Whether through death panels, euthenasia, accidents or whatever, that's the only way Obamacare saves money.

31 posted on 07/29/2011 2:53:10 PM PDT by Marathoner (Government schools = Marxist indoctrination centers)
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To: edpc

Why not make it a hundred?


32 posted on 07/29/2011 2:58:21 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: beethovenfan
Also coming - a sharp increase in highway deaths.

These little cars will have so many airbags that their prices will necessarily be $100K +.

And a wreck with an 18 wheeler will set off so many airbags in the little motorscooters that the driver will be instantaneously vaporized by the airbag heat.

Guess it's time for those oil companies to unshelve the 100 mpg carburetors they've bought up from all those inventors over all these years.

33 posted on 07/29/2011 3:12:13 PM PDT by Ole Okie (!!)
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To: Jim Noble
He's cancelled the Second Law of Thermodynamics?

Sure! You think that's hard? He already caused the seas to stop rising...

34 posted on 07/29/2011 3:16:45 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: edpc

They’re using the “Obama says it, so it shall be” calculation (meaning they’re dumb enough to believe Obama’s will is all that is needed to make it true).


35 posted on 07/30/2011 4:44:37 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You forgot housing and the mortgage industry. Fannie and Freddie are handling a bigger majority of our loans than ever.


36 posted on 07/30/2011 5:01:30 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: edpc

You have to love the way all these things are due in future administrations.

Since we apparently now have a magic wand, why not just make a law that says all engines must get 10MPG higher fuel economy tomorrow. Then, we make another law that says the economy must grow at 3.5-4.0%. Then, another that outlaws shark bites.


37 posted on 07/30/2011 6:41:25 AM PDT by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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