Posted on 07/29/2011 3:01:27 PM PDT by mdittmar
The Senate voted to table it. He voted to open it up for debate. He thinks he’s being slick. He didn’t vote for the bill as what most people would define as voting for a bill, but he knows most people are too stupid to know the difference. In that case, he’s probably right.
Thanks for the explanation.
If Reid put it out, it must be killed.
Yesterday, July 28, a bill was introduced in the House by Dreier of CA that looks to be Reid’s ready-made crisis, must pass budget bill “in the wings.”
HR 2693
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-2693
So, it would originate in the House......
Thune has been disappointing for quite a few years now. He could easily become the next Linda Graham, should JUAN ever retire and let Linda get a RINO promotion.
What I don’t understand is why everyone is saying the Reid bill will pass.
Doesn’t the House have to vote on a compromise bill or on the Reid bill.
The House would never approve the Reid bill.
The Democrats are setting a trap for Republicans. Republicans better hold the lines. I hope they don’t fall for the crap put out by Harry Reid and Obama.
Grey Eagle
It would be nice if he got his can kicked down the road. The Republican Party truly is the stupid party.
Thus leaving the hot potato in the pubbies lap.
That was their plan all along. Marxism requires a one party system to “progress.”
As long as the act of abomination stands, I reject the notion that we share any common “country” with those that support this war upon our rights.
Theses men are not our countrymen, they are our enemy’s into much that they seek to impose their repressive will upon us in dictating how we conduct our own personal business(health management or otherwise).
As for the Reid plan, I don’t understand how any republican can be fooled into playing their game. Obama has already told the bankers that he won’t neglect to pay the interest on the debt. Call his bluff, let the Federal goverment run on revenue for a while.
The American people must be exposed to the lies the democrats have been selling in-order to induce panic, and get them to accept even more thief our our children’s money.
If the House Republicans want a constitutional amendment, there is an easy option that doesn’t require 3/4th of both houses of the corrupt Federal legislator.
Recognize some of the nearly 700 calls by 49 of the 50 States for a Constitutional convention over the last 200 years and actually carry out your supposedly “ministerial function” of calling that convention!
Of course doing that would require a major leap of faith on the part of the house leadership. Giving up control of the process to our State Governments. Such a leap in doing their duty is perhaps too powerful for even the republicans engage in.
Why is it "moving the country forward" if the key, the irreducible element of Harry Reid's plan is to allow Obama to skirt the issue of his sorry Cloward-Piven economic policy in 2012?
That's not going halfway, it's giving up and crossing over, if you're willing to give up something like that just to say "I voted for an agreement."
W.A.G. is that Thune has had people sidling up to him at tony DC parties thrown by the "right" hostesses and whispering in his ear how smart he is, and handsome, and electable, and how he has it all going on, and how he could advance to high office ...... if only he would begin the "glide path" to electable moderation ......
Sounds like the RiNO's/NWO-erati are cheesing up another renegade for 2016.
You do realize that once a Constitutional Convention is called, it is not restricted to dealing with just that one amendment. They could change anything they want. There is no way we want to open up our constitution to this possibility.
That's what the Philadelphia convention did in 1787. The people who called that convention thought they were asking for a tuneup of the Articles of Confederation -- surprise, surprise.
What they got was Alexander Hamilton, "empire without the King", and an eventual American Civil War, Gilded Age, and government by unrestrained kingpins, titans and colossi.
“You do realize that once a Constitutional Convention is called, it is not restricted to dealing with just that one amendment. They could change anything they want.”
Yes I realize that, but any changes they make would have to be ratified by 3/4ths of the States, and that is just an amendment.
If they propose an entirely new Constitutions like they did last time every state would have to ratify it, or be left out of the new union.
What do we have to lose? As it is the Federal Constitution is meaningless. The Federal employees rewrite it at their mere whim, Congress passes any law they want, and now even the president does pretty much what ever he wants.
I don’t think its possible for our States to both come up with something that is worse and for 3/4ths of them to ratify that worse thing.
No my friend the risk and certain loss is entirely on the side of the Federal Government, and that is why they have thus far refused to carry out their ministerial duty to recognize just 38 calls out of the nearly 700 made by 49 of the 50 states.
“”They could change anything they want.”
That’s what the Philadelphia convention did in 1787. The people who called that convention thought they were asking for a tuneup of the Articles of Confederation — surprise, surprise.
What they got was Alexander Hamilton, “empire without the King”, and an eventual American Civil War, Gilded Age, and government by unrestrained kingpins, titans and colossi.”
Exactly the anti-federalist fears have come to fruition, it can’t get any worse then it is. We already have whatever evil our federal politicians want to impose upon us.
We know about the flaws of the present federal Constitution, we Know how it has led to practically limitless power and tyranny in the Federal Government.
Sorry, but the existing Constitution is our only protection.
It has not led to tyranny. Selective interpretation and failure to abide by it have led to our present situation.
“Sorry, but the existing Constitution is our only protection.”
What protection? Our federal masters have empowered themselves to arbitrary redefine the limits of their own power.
That is called not having a Constitution.
“It has not led to tyranny. Selective interpretation and failure to abide by it have led to our present situation.”
Which I call illegitimate and boundless goverment, in a word tyranny.
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