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Perry slams Obama administration at conservative summit
Washington Times ^ | July 239, 2011 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 07/30/2011 2:27:19 AM PDT by Clairity

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To: org.whodat
Bull like he has been all over the debit ceiling debate, make a statement after the fact, typical rino.

How many votes does the Governor of Texas have in the U.S. House of Representatives?

How many votes does the Governor of Texas have in the U.S. Senate?

One of the strongest weapons that the Democrats have had these past two weeks was the expectations that the financial markets would spook at the possibility of default, 401K's would plummet in value and voters would them panic and turn against the GOP demanding a GOP surrender.

Hoping to avoid stocks plunge, worried leaders pressing to reach agreement on debt

The markets, in fact, did NOT spook thanks to the calming effects of seasoned executives like Perry that focused on the factors that you do not even seem to understand.

Texas governor calls debt debate ‘political theater’

Perry is playing political chess and all you are capable of understanding is political bumper sticker slogan checkers.

41 posted on 07/31/2011 9:48:06 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

ROFLOL, same thing as saying his usual, I will take a side after the issue is settled and there is no political risk. Perry needs to keep leading the possum on a half shell, they will follow him anywhere.


42 posted on 07/31/2011 10:03:10 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: iowamark
First, he needs to decide if he is for or against: 1. Abortion of children

The difference between you and Perry, iowamark, is that Perry, as Governor, has to find a way to ACTUALLY SAVE lives and you only have to find a way to make yourself look Holier Than Thou even if you ACTUALLY LOSE millions of lives.

Perry's position is that, under the Tenth Amendment, the State of Texas, and every other State, retains the right to regulate abortion.

That is your cue to jump up on your sanctimonious soapbox and start falsely squealing that that means that Perry is for abortion in, say, Massachusetts.

In the Real World that Perry functions in, after the Federal judicial power grab of Roe v. Wade, the only thing standing between Federal power to ALLOW ALL abortions and State powers to limit ANY abortion is the Tenth Amendment. You, however, seem to be totally clueless about that fact.

In the Fantasy World that you functions in, iowamark, all you have to do is attack the Tenth Amendment, Federalize all abortion and then have your Fairy Godmother wave her Magic Wand and have an Anti-Abortion Amendment magically appear in the Constitution.

In the Real World that Perry functions in, the polls show that 60% of all voters would NOT abolish abortion. If there is ever an "Abortion Amendment", it would therefore be a PRO-Abortion Amendment.

In the Real World that Perry functions in, the polls show that the majority of voters in 37 out of the 50 States would NOT abolish abortion. If there is ever an "Abortion Amendment", it would therefore be a PRO-Abortion Amendment.

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"Neither Congress nor any State shall make any law prohibiting or restricting the free exercise a woman's right to an abortion under any circumstances" ..... Twenty-eigth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

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If abortion is totally Federalized, that only INCREASES the number of abortions by the millions as there will be NO State checks at all in ANY State.

Yet, there you are, attacking Perry for standing up for the Tenth Amendment: The ONLY protection and the last hope that an unborn life has in the State of Texas or in any other State.

43 posted on 07/31/2011 10:35:42 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: iowamark
First, he needs to decide if he is for or against: 1. Abortion of children

The difference between you and Perry, iowamark, is that Perry, as Governor, has to find a way to ACTUALLY SAVE lives and you only have to find a way to make yourself look Holier Than Thou even if what you advocate, the Federalization of abortion, would ACTUALLY LOSE millions of lives.

Perry's position is that, under the Tenth Amendment, the State of Texas, and every other State, retains the right to regulate abortion. The opposite of that is the FEDERALIZATION of all abortion law.

That is your cue to jump up on your sanctimonious soapbox and start falsely squealing that that means that Perry is for abortion in, say, Massachusetts.

In the Real World that Perry functions in, after the Federal judicial power grab of Roe v. Wade, the only thing standing between Federal power to ALLOW ALL abortions and State powers to limit ANY abortion is the Tenth Amendment. You, however, seem to be totally clueless about that fact.

In the Fantasy World that you functions in, iowamark, all you have to do is attack the Tenth Amendment, Federalize all abortion decisions and then have your Fairy Godmother wave her Magic Wand and have an Anti-Abortion Amendment magically appear in the Constitution.

In the Real World that Perry functions in, the polls show that 60% of all voters would NOT abolish abortion. If there is ever an "Abortion Amendment", it would therefore be a PRO-Abortion Amendment.

In the Real World that Perry functions in, the polls show that the majority of voters in 37 out of the 50 States would NOT abolish abortion. If there is ever an "Abortion Amendment", it would therefore be a PRO-Abortion Amendment.

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"Neither Congress nor any State shall make any law prohibiting or restricting the free exercise a woman's right to an abortion under any circumstances" ..... Twenty-eigth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

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If abortion is totally Federalized, that only INCREASES the number of abortions by the millions as there will be NO State checks at all in ANY State.

Yet, there you are, attacking Perry for standing up for the Tenth Amendment: The ONLY protection and the last hope that an unborn life has in the State of Texas or in any other State.

Perry saves as many unborn lives as he possibly can in the United States of America, as it actually exists in the Real World, in accordance with the realities of the U.S. Constitution.

You, iowamark, attack Perry for not saving as many lives as you fantasize about saving if you were Emperor of the United States, with absolute power to enact any amendment to the Consitution you dreamed of just as soon as you asked your Fairy Godmother to wave her Magic Wand.

44 posted on 07/31/2011 10:53:22 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: airborne; iowamark
To iowamark: IF the decision for abortion, marriage and borders was left up to the States, do you think things would become more conservative than they are now, or less? .... airborne

To: airborne: You are begging the question. .... iowamark

The answer, airborne, is that, on the planet that iowamark lives on, if all abortion law were Federalized, there would be NO abortion at all.

On iowamark's planet, once the States are stripped of whatever regulatory powers over abortion they may still retain under the Tenth Amendment, iowamark's Fairy Godmother will wave her Magic Wand and an Anti-Abotion Amendment will magically appear in the Constitution.

See Post 44.

Iowamark claims that you are "begging the question" because you are dealing with the realities of the Planet Earth and not his fantasies of the Planet Perfect.

Unfortunately, back on the Planet Earth, fantasies that are at odds with reality can and do kill.


"I can fly! My Fairy Godmother waved her Magic Wand and gave me the power to fly!"

45 posted on 07/31/2011 11:25:54 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
At least in my state, Pennsylvania, I believe a vote by the residents would keep the laws regarding abortion and gay marriage (borders too, if we had a problem at the Mason/Dixon Line) conservatively leaning.

It is also my own opinion that many states currently suffering from liberalism would vote for more conservative laws, given the chance.

Regardless, I agree with Perry that States rights have been stolen from them (us) by the Federal government Leviathan.

46 posted on 08/02/2011 3:31:46 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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