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Mark Steyn : 'Life on this planet' about to change
Orange County Register ^ | July 30, 2011 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/30/2011 9:35:14 AM PDT by Clairity

That thoughtful observer of the passing parade, Nancy Pelosi, weighed in on the "debt ceiling" negotiations the other day: "What we're trying to do is save the world from the Republican budget. We're trying to save life on this planet as we know it today."

It's always good to have things explained in terms we simpletons can understand. After a while, all the stuff about debt-to-GDP ratio and CBO alternative baseline scenarios starts to give you a bit of a headache, so we should be grateful to the House Minority Leader for putting it in layman's terms: What's at stake is "life on this planet as we know it today." So, if right now you're living anywhere in the general vicinity of this planet, it's good to know Nancy's in there pitching for you.

What about life on this planet tomorrow? How's that look if Nancy gets her way? The Democrat model of governance is to spend four trillion dollars while only collecting two trillion, borrowing the rest from tomorrow. Instead of "printing money," we're printing credit cards and preapproving our unborn grandchildren.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bipartisan; budget; congress; debtdeal; debtdealcavein; debtdealshowdown; default; economy; marksteyn; pelosi; socialism; spending; steyn; tyranny
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Another good article by Mark Steyn.

The Dems only have slogans, no solutions. In fact all they know is how to make things worse, destroy the country, as we know it, and they have the unmitigated gall to try to blame the Republicans.

1 posted on 07/30/2011 9:35:18 AM PDT by Clairity
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To: Clairity

Bookmark for later.


2 posted on 07/30/2011 9:36:36 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Clairity

3 posted on 07/30/2011 9:39:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Clairity
Most pertinent line: "As Arthur Herman of the American Enterprise Institute pointed out this week, under present rules, if the government were to announce a spending freeze – that's to say, no increases, no cuts, everything just stays exactly the same – the Congressional Budget Office would score it as a $9 trillion savings. In real-world terms, there are no "savings," and there's certainly no $9 trillion. In fact, there isn't one thin dime. But nevertheless that's how it would be measured at the CBO."

Hey, I just developed a $9 trillion deficit reduction plan!

4 posted on 07/30/2011 9:42:41 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Clairity

this man is brilliant. I fear for America. I don’t think we are going to get through the next 100 years. Thankfully I won’t be around to see it. And I feel sorry for my children’s children. This was once a great country.


5 posted on 07/30/2011 9:49:11 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: Clairity

“If the IMF is correct (a big if), China will be the planet’s No. 1 economy by 2016. That means whoever’s elected in November next year will be the last president of the United States to preside over the world’s dominant economic power.”

It took long enough, but the liberals are FINALLY achieving their goals. It’s a shame that we have helped them out so much along the way.


6 posted on 07/30/2011 9:52:44 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Clairity
Anyone with a lick of sense knows this is the 'run away' path to total destruction. They (the elite progressive leaders) must believe they are going to be in the "Fortress of Solitude" with Superman, to keep them alive and well when America deconstructs completely; and America is divided into 2 states/nations or more and we are under total tyranny.

Cause that is the way this is progressing. NOW!

God help us be restored to our faith in Thee, LORD, in Jesus name amen.

7 posted on 07/30/2011 9:56:36 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: RightGeek
And we trust the CBO to rate the various bills that come out of Congress? What a sham.

We should be very very worried about Obamacare.

8 posted on 07/30/2011 9:57:01 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Clairity
The Dems only have slogans, no solutions.

I think the CBO is preparing to score the slogans, since that has been the only Democrat submission into the debate so far.

9 posted on 07/30/2011 9:57:36 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: RightGeek

We’ve cut our budget down as much as possible. Trying like hell not to get into our savings. I just figured out that if we “break even” every month I’m going to save a bunch of money over the next decade. sarc

Only the government would count money not spent as money saved. Ben Franklin did not say “A penny not spent is a penny earned”?


10 posted on 07/30/2011 9:57:42 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I will only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Travis McGee

boy, that’s a picture that’s worth at least 10,000 words!


11 posted on 07/30/2011 9:58:28 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Clairity

MS so nails it !!


12 posted on 07/30/2011 10:02:50 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Clairity

“We’re trying to save life on this planet as we know it today.”

Who wants to save life as we know it TODAY? It’s a life of unfettered government overreach, regulation, taxes, dependency, restrictions instead of liberty. I, for one, want this life (Nancy’s “life as we know it today”) to disappear.


13 posted on 07/30/2011 10:04:46 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: Chuzzlewit
I don’t think we are going to get through the next 100 years.
Thankfully I won’t be around to see it.

You may be unnecessarily pessimistic !

The US as most of us have known it prolly won't last another decade .. surely you'll keep on tickin' that long ?!

/s .. just in case

14 posted on 07/30/2011 10:05:57 AM PDT by tomkat (Palin/me :-)
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To: tomkat

The Founding Fathers, and our forefathers, endured far worse with far less. If can’t emulate their service/sacrifice to some degree in these trying times, we don’t deserve to inherit what they fought, bled, and died for.


15 posted on 07/30/2011 10:14:00 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: JLS

Steyn ping


16 posted on 07/30/2011 10:15:29 AM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: Clairity

He does a good job of flaming Pelosi, but he’s really flaming the whole congress of right now as well as years past, both Republican and democrat.

And well he should.


17 posted on 07/30/2011 10:17:49 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Chuzzlewit

>> I don’t think we are going to get through the next 100 years. Thankfully I won’t be around to see it

Thankfully your pessimism won’t be around either.


18 posted on 07/30/2011 10:17:55 AM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: geologist

Maybe the “elites” of both parties KNOW this can’t continue so they’re just going to kick the can down the road so they can live the high life as long as possible.


19 posted on 07/30/2011 10:18:11 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I will only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Chuzzlewit

A 100 years? Some will call you a pessimist for this statement. I call you an optimist.


20 posted on 07/30/2011 10:19:36 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I will only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: geologist

Revelation 13 is what I think you may be referring to, whether you know it or not.


21 posted on 07/30/2011 10:20:08 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Terry Mross

They make their self to be objects for the anger the nation is going to express somehow.

Too little too late is not the path to success.


22 posted on 07/30/2011 10:21:22 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Terry Mross

“Maybe the “elites” of both parties KNOW this can’t continue so they’re just going to kick the can down the road so they can live the high life as long as possible.”

It must be something like that, but most of them have children and grandchildren, what on earth do they think will happen to them? Can they really be that shortsighted and callous ?

And the way things are headed now, they’d better have someplace really safe to unass to, ‘cause when the Morelocks come out it ain’t gonna be safe around here.


23 posted on 07/30/2011 10:30:49 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: RobRoy

Did a two year study on Revelations ...

So much is symbolic and there is much offered as possible connections. It is vague and realistic at the same time.

Since America is not mentioned in Revelations, it is likely not a power or still called America. It seems to me that chapter 18 reads like it is describing America. Because ‘the buyer’ of the worlds precious goods is destroyed and is no more. MOO!


24 posted on 07/30/2011 10:33:55 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Travis McGee

Good find.


25 posted on 07/30/2011 10:35:28 AM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: PLMerite

I’m sure most of them have already set their kids up to make their millions. So they’ll be okay for a generation and they can’t see past that.

As for someplace to hide, maybe they have a place.

But for some reason they’re trying to keep their gravy train running for as long as possible.


26 posted on 07/30/2011 10:37:15 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I will only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: dhs12345
And we trust the CBO to rate the various bills that come out of Congress? What a sham.

The accounting tricks used by Congress would mean lengthy jail time for anyone who used them outside of government.

27 posted on 07/30/2011 10:43:29 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Gene Eric.


28 posted on 07/30/2011 10:43:48 AM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: PLMerite
when the Morelocks come out it ain’t gonna be safe around here.

This fella will build you and your loved ones a Fortress of Solitude. I've heard rumors about a compound community in the Adirondacks that's ready for the collapse.

29 posted on 07/30/2011 10:50:01 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: PLMerite
It must be something like that, but most of them have children and grandchildren, what on earth do they think will happen to them? Can they really be that shortsighted and callous ?

Many of them are extremely wealthy, especially the Democrats. They probably think their wealth will insulate them and their children from the havoc caused by their policies.

30 posted on 07/30/2011 10:53:47 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: PLMerite
Transgenerational ties are at a low level and the more ‘educated’ and secular the individual the more this is true. I regularly hear comments along the lines of ‘I could care less what happens after I die.’ from both friends and close family members. These people are non TP type ‘conservative Republicans’ sort of. All are ‘prochoice’, one of the women rabidly so. I have seen her ask young college women who have engagement rings why they want to ‘ruin’ their lives with marriage and family when they could have a ‘fulfilling career’. The adult children of all these people are in some significant way dysfunctional. The one who has a family married a angry control freak who has convinced his wife to work outside the home while he ‘acts as the primary caregiver’. I am afraid this rot of selfish, self centered, uncaring and unconnected lifestyle has been embraced by a Karens chance of the upper middle and professional classes. There certainly isn't a scintilla of concern for their country or the well being of the nation in these people. Like the bunny says ‘it's all about me.’
31 posted on 07/30/2011 11:03:32 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: BobL

Don’t know where I saw this, but apparently “Hilary!” has her eyes on getting out of S of S and ruling over IMF.

I know I read it on Free Republic because that’s where I get my education.

I’ll look for the site.


32 posted on 07/30/2011 11:03:51 AM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting...still not tilting...)
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To: tomkat

“The US as most of us have known it prolly won’t last another decade”
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The US as I used to know it has not existed for at least two decades already.


33 posted on 07/30/2011 11:09:45 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: Moonman62

Except that we have fact checkers here and on the Internet. Thanks to the free flow of information. The crooks won’t get away with it.

“The truth will set you free!”


34 posted on 07/30/2011 11:15:21 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: hummingbird

“Don’t know where I saw this, but apparently “Hilary!” has her eyes on getting out of S of S and ruling over IMF.”

Interesting - she wants to be there celebrating her final victory over America.

I’ve been thinking that she may even run, as a ‘moderate’ Democrat. It is basically her last chance.


35 posted on 07/30/2011 11:15:50 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Gene Eric

Does he/she have any children?

(I have two. One is currently fighting in Afghanistan, the other is a US Marine,)

I have heard this same kind of attitude expressed by the “no more children, let’s spend it now” liberals in this country.

It is offensive in the extreme.


36 posted on 07/30/2011 11:16:22 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: robowombat

I know a lot of people like that. Push comes to shove, they genuinely don’t care about anything because they don’t have kids, national pride or personal religious beliefs. They are their own universe, the borders of which run no further than their own lifespan.

Funny thing about that type. They’re happy to push the country into ruin in order to get theirs, because it’s all about getting whatever you can loot while the looting is good. Once the collapse happens, however, that kind makes lousy soldiers and poor survivors. They’ll be scattered to the winds, to whatever table scraps Fortune throws them.

People with ties, skills and a vision for the future will be the ones to survive hard times and come out on top. This is a recurring theme in human history, and will be no different this time.


37 posted on 07/30/2011 11:23:56 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Sigurdrifta

The cavalier expression of indifference is indeed troubling.

God bless your family, and God bless America.


38 posted on 07/30/2011 11:24:53 AM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: geologist

You and I have pretty much the same take on this, from the top of your post to the bottom.

One thing that is pretty amazing to me is the connections between Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation.


39 posted on 07/30/2011 1:38:01 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Sigurdrifta

Thank you for your family’s service and for your valor. We who love America invest in the future with our blood, sweat, tears, service and energy, and raise children who do the same if possible. My son is a Marine as well. Semper Fi!


40 posted on 07/30/2011 2:11:34 PM PDT by Pat4ever (NO MORE!)
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To: Terry Mross

Only the government would count money not spent as money saved.

And taxes “not collected” [Bush tax cuts] as money “spent.”


41 posted on 07/30/2011 2:19:23 PM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Clairity

Steyn looks at the future, and it doesn’t look pretty for us.


42 posted on 07/30/2011 2:34:51 PM PDT by Gritty (The US economy has been "stimulated" to a bloody pulp by the racketeers in Washington-Mark Steyn)
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To: RobRoy

...I’m with yer, we’ve had nothing but puppets on the left and right hand of a big govt big business CRIMINAL!!!


43 posted on 07/30/2011 3:10:46 PM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: originalbuckeye

When you get back here don’t miss this part:

“To facilitate this proposition, Washington created its own form of fantasy accounting: “baseline budgeting,” under which growth-in-government is factored in to federal bookkeeping as a permanent feature of life. As Arthur Herman of the American Enterprise Institute pointed out this week, under present rules, if the government were to announce a spending freeze – that’s to say, no increases, no cuts, everything just stays exactly the same – the Congressional Budget Office would score it as a $9 trillion savings. In real-world terms, there are no “savings,” and there’s certainly no $9 trillion. In fact, there isn’t one thin dime. But nevertheless that’s how it would be measured at the CBO.”

Baseline budgeting allows every program to automatically increase 3%, 5%, 10% EVERY YEAR regardless of population increase, inflation, “clients” served (or lack thereof of these items), etc. Just bigger - every year. Sigh.

Under Dubya we had everything - Executive, Senate, Representatives and even a favorable SCOTUS and they failed to knock out baseline budgeting, earmarks, useless programs including Ed, DOE, NPR, NEA, etc. Double sigh.


44 posted on 07/30/2011 3:57:02 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: BobL

I think you nailed it - this is all about turning the US into a Socialist/(possibly)Communist society - and the Republican party has participated in the march


45 posted on 07/30/2011 4:02:41 PM PDT by utford
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To: Clairity; Jim Robinson; wmfights
The Democrat model of governance is to spend four trillion dollars while only collecting two trillion, borrowing the rest from tomorrow. Instead of "printing money," we're printing credit cards and preapproving our unborn grandchildren.

This is such an easily understood explanation of the current situation. Steyn is a master wordsmith.

This should be an RNC add running around the country on Monday and Tuesday.

46 posted on 07/30/2011 5:24:44 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: RightGeek

You are right. All of this talk of cutting trillions is a massive FRAUD. What is being discussed are not real cuts to current spending levels - but rather make-believe cuts to a make-believe ten year spending projection. (So most of the cuts come in projected spending in out years, spending over which this congress has no control, no power, no authority.)

Both parties are in on this fraud. We need to rise up and scream STOP. We need to insist on real cuts to current spending.


47 posted on 07/30/2011 7:18:03 PM PDT by No more debt (Not one more dollar of debt)
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To: Chuzzlewit
This was once a great country.

That's how a lot of us are starting to see it...

48 posted on 07/30/2011 8:34:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (Honk if I'm paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
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To: Chuzzlewit

LOL, I have serious doubts we will get through the next six weeks.


49 posted on 07/31/2011 1:43:58 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Clairity

Mark Steyn hits another one out of the park.

BTTT


50 posted on 07/31/2011 2:52:27 AM PDT by hattend (As always... FUJM.)
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