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'Fully engaged' McConnell expresses optimism on debt deal
The Hill ^ | 07/30/11 | Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 07/30/2011 3:02:36 PM PDT by Qbert

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Saturday he and Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) are fully engaged with the White House on a debt deal and expressed optimism an agreement will be reached. 

“I’ve spoken with the president and the vice president within the last hour and a half," McConnell said at a press conference with Boehner shortly after the House rejected Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) debt-ceiling plan. 

"We are now fully engaged with the one person … who can sign a bill into law,” McConnell told reporters. 

Fewer than three days before the Aug. 2 deadline for raising the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling, McConnell insisted that the economic doomsday scenario would not happen. Faced with questions about whether soldiers would receive paychecks, McConnell said a deal would be made. 

“Our country is not going to default for the first time in our history – that is not going to happen – we now have a level of seriousness and the right people at the table that we needed and thought we had, as the Speaker indicated last week,” McConnell said.

McConnell added that he is “confident and optimistic that we can get an agreement in the very near future and resolve this crisis.”

McConnell spoke hours after House Republicans rejected Reid's plan and less than a day after Senate Democrats dispatched with Boehner's plan. 

The end game on the debt deal now appears to revolve around talks between McConnell, Reid and President Obama. 

Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) traveled to the White House for a meeting with Obama late Saturday afternoon. 

The tricky part for the congressional leaders remains finding a bill that can move through both chambers, including a House dominated by Tea Party freshman Republicans. 

McConnell said at his press briefing that he had talked with Obama and Vice President Biden on a way forward. Top ranking leaders in the House and Senate are "discussing ways to reach an agreement," McConnell said.

Boehner, who walked out on talks with the White House more than a week ago, agreed that a deal would come together soon.

He said “in spite of our differences, we are dealing with reasonable, responsible people who want this crisis to end as quickly as possible, and I’m confident that it will.”

Reid's proposal was defeated in a 173-246, with 11 Democrats joining House Republicans in voting down the measure.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debtceiling; debtlimit; mcconnell; obama
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"The end game on the debt deal now appears to revolve around talks between McConnell, Reid and President Obama."

Recipe for disaster.

1 posted on 07/30/2011 3:02:43 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

McConnell is filthy. He is as bad as Reid.

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2 posted on 07/30/2011 3:04:27 PM PDT by bobk333
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To: Qbert

Still has to pass the House.

I’m still pushing my critter [Graves - Ga] to the 1 cent solution or whatever it’s called.

it cuts [yes, cuts - not pretend] 1% each year for the next 6 years or so and we’re balance.

baseline budgeting would say this bill cuts 8% - now - and 8% more in following years.


3 posted on 07/30/2011 3:05:50 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Qbert

The Turkey is infected with the DC disease,No cure but remove and replace,Kentucky ,man the voting booths and send the Gobbler packing.


4 posted on 07/30/2011 3:07:35 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Qbert

These are the same negotiations they had at the White House a week ago. Both sides stood firm and the negotiations collapsed.

Except this time, Obama and Reid will stand firm and Boehner/McConnell will fold.

Cowards.

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5 posted on 07/30/2011 3:09:27 PM PDT by bobk333
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To: Qbert

Fully engaged in their usual cheating, lying and stealing from the taxpayers.


6 posted on 07/30/2011 3:10:01 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Qbert

Yeah. The Gobbler is engaged to Reid. The wedding will follow very soon. And the DC Class will throw them a big glorious reception.
We Tea Partiers get to pick up the trash afterwards.


7 posted on 07/30/2011 3:10:32 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Principled

“Still has to pass the House.”

I’m gussing Obama will twist arms and make threats to get as many Dems on board as he can to save face. The question is, will enough Repubs offer their own heads for the chopping block yet again (after the Speaker’s dishonesty through all of this), too?


8 posted on 07/30/2011 3:11:41 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

See what Reid said
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/mixed-messages-on-debt-talks-as-clock-ticks-towards-default.php
However, Senate Majority Reader Harry Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi were also engaged with the White House. They were summoned for urgent talks. When Reid returned to the Capitol he struck a downbeat note.

Reid “The question is, are we closer to an agreement, The answer is ‘no.’”


9 posted on 07/30/2011 3:12:42 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Qbert

Of course he’s confident. Reid wrote the bill. Wellllll....the people behind the scenes who pull his strings anyway.

Kind of amused watching these bad actors pretend to be on opposite sides.


10 posted on 07/30/2011 3:13:38 PM PDT by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didn’t have the principles.---Jim DeMint)
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To: Qbert

Obama doesn’t need to be engaged. He will sign whatever is put in front of him.

This is the stupid McConnell strategy all over again: give up completely, but try to blame as much of it as possible on Obama.

Fix the real problems, dork!

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11 posted on 07/30/2011 3:13:38 PM PDT by bobk333
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'Fully engaged' McConnell expresses optimism on debt deal

BOHICA!!!


12 posted on 07/30/2011 3:14:14 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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“we now have ... the right people at the table”
`Republicrats’?

“a House dominated by Tea Party freshman Republicans”
Apparently *not* the right people at the table.


13 posted on 07/30/2011 3:14:53 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our founding fathers and their families: all armed conservatives)
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To: Qbert

If the House Republicans have any honor, they will vote down any “changed” bill, collectively.


14 posted on 07/30/2011 3:14:53 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Principled

Does the deal meet the President’s goal of cutting the deficit in half in 5 years?


15 posted on 07/30/2011 3:15:54 PM PDT by Qout
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To: Son House
If the House Republicans have any honor...

You owe me a KB!

16 posted on 07/30/2011 3:16:36 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Soul Seeker

“Kind of amused watching these bad actors pretend to be on opposite sides.”

Exactly.


17 posted on 07/30/2011 3:16:57 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Principled
Yet nothing has passed the House. I am wondering if this is the strategy. As long as Boehner pretends to be engaged nothing passes and nothing passing is a good start. Boehner may get bashed for platitudes and bipartisanship, yet nothing has gotten passed the GOP in the House. Not a bad strategy. Like the song says "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
18 posted on 07/30/2011 3:18:29 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Qbert

Twist arms?

What planet are u from? Democrats will be stampeding to vote for this bill. The real question u should be asking is why isn’t Bonehead
gonna “Table” this bill like Harry “Tabled” His. The answer...
This fix has been for a while. Where have u been?


19 posted on 07/30/2011 3:18:38 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Qbert

McConnell is out to break one off in the tax payers, the man loves his pork.


20 posted on 07/30/2011 3:18:40 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Son House

I think everything said on the floor by the leaders (of both parties) is a ruse. It’s all taking place in private talks (and was largely laid out weeks ago).

Just watch.


21 posted on 07/30/2011 3:19:13 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qout

No, it means that we are going to get screwed again and we are one step closer to collapse.


22 posted on 07/30/2011 3:19:30 PM PDT by sport
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To: Qbert

Exactly.

Kubuki Plays are confusing sometimes.


23 posted on 07/30/2011 3:20:28 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Qbert
"The end game on the debt deal now appears to revolve around talks between McConnell, Reid and President Obama."

Who's representing the House?

24 posted on 07/30/2011 3:20:35 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Roccus

How about a correction instead? They should have voted down their own bills, and wrote the right bill in the first place. Reid on FOXNEWS now...


25 posted on 07/30/2011 3:24:24 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: tennmountainman

“What planet are u from? Democrats will be stampeding to vote for this bill.”

—I’m from planet Earth. (How are things on Uranus?...)

You do understand that the more Dems in the House vote against any bill (if they can safely get away with it), the more Repubs will be forced to vote for garbage, don’t you? That’s part of the scheme.


26 posted on 07/30/2011 3:24:28 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: sport

I hope for the best, but I keep feeling this sharp pain in the center of my back, between my shoulder blades, like someone is sticking a kife in there and twisting it around.

Along with that I feel like someone is giving me a colonoscopy with no pain killers and a colonoscopy machine as large as a baseball bat.

I hope I am wrong,but I have little faith in my hope and lot more in my pain.


27 posted on 07/30/2011 3:25:19 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: bobk333
These are the same negotiations they had at the White House a week ago. Both sides stood firm and the negotiations collapsed. Except this time, Obama and Reid will stand firm and Boehner/McConnell will fold.

This has been repeated dozens of times in these big issues. This is exactly what the one faction of this corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" is supposed to do. It's all a charade. Boner is/has been in on it from the git go.

28 posted on 07/30/2011 3:25:39 PM PDT by Digger (T)
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To: Son House

I was just reacting to the comment about “honor.” ;)


29 posted on 07/30/2011 3:25:48 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Venturer

Kife is of course knife. sorry.


30 posted on 07/30/2011 3:26:08 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Qbert
Kind of amused watching these bad actors pretend to be on opposite sides.

They are the same person, or at least twins.


31 posted on 07/30/2011 3:29:58 PM PDT by bobk333
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To: Perdogg

The fix has been in for some time.
The soon to come Reid/McConnell “compromise bill” will soon be sent to the house.
Will Bonehead “Table” this bill like Reid “Tabled” his?
Of course not.

Bonehead will allow a vote. Because that is the pre-arranged sham. It will pass with the help of the RATS in the house. And free up a lot of conservatives to vote no.

That’s why Bonehead will not table this soon to come bill.


32 posted on 07/30/2011 3:30:40 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Qbert

BOHICA!


33 posted on 07/30/2011 3:33:20 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Qbert

McConnell is “fully engaged,” eh? Whom does he intend to marry? Obama or Reid?

They could do it in New York.


34 posted on 07/30/2011 3:33:20 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: tennmountainman

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/07/25/congress-can-learn-from-15-6-debt-ceiling-debate/


35 posted on 07/30/2011 3:34:00 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: tennmountainman
If the fix were in, why not just amend the Boehner bill and send it back as “red State” predicted would happen? It could have been fixed in committee and agreed to.
36 posted on 07/30/2011 3:34:23 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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I’ll take u up on that bet.
Why won’t Bonehead tell Reid his bill will be tabled, like Reid Tabled his? Why don’t u think about that and get back to me?

Bonehead will allow a vote. 50 or more RATS will vote for this bill.
Thats my prediction. Whats yours?


37 posted on 07/30/2011 3:34:40 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

House does not have a so called table rule, works completely different than the senate. They write a rule for each bill and it is processed by committees, the bills sponsor finally calls for the bill. Convoluted as hell.


38 posted on 07/30/2011 3:35:54 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Venturer
I got the same feelings several months ago.

I told my preacher some time back that I knew times like this were coming, but I did not believe that I would be alive when they got here.And last week my brother said to me, I knew things like this were coming,but I did not that they would happen so fast and I did not believe that I would be alive when they came. In other words, we both though that they were way off in the future, but here they are. And other the spelling of their names, both political parties have the same goal.

39 posted on 07/30/2011 3:36:20 PM PDT by sport
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If an agreement goes to the House, the dems will get votes from right leaning districts they won and the Repubs will get votes from the left leaning districts they won. There will be 218 votes in favor, and everyone on both sides who has a hard core district will get a kitchen pass from the leaders to vote against it.

That way, both liberals and conservatives can say they voted their conscience, while the bill still becomes law - which is what about 90% of both sides want to have happen.

Most of the votes against it will for show.


40 posted on 07/30/2011 3:37:22 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Perdogg

I guess we will see real soon won’t we.

U did not answer my question.

Will Bonehead “Table” this soon to come bill, like Reid “Tabled his?

yes or no. Real simple.


41 posted on 07/30/2011 3:37:46 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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The entire process is being held up for one reason. Democrats do not want debt ceiling talks until after November 2012. Republicans are demanding a short term hike or nothing.

That is it. The House will not accept a deal that pushes the failure of the democrats past the elections. It is a very big topic that democrats are running from.


42 posted on 07/30/2011 3:38:15 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Cheetahcat

Just got back from there, and from what I heard and was told, KY is largely in agreement with that. He has been there WAY too long.


43 posted on 07/30/2011 3:41:09 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: tennmountainman

You cannot table a Bill in the House, only in the Senate.


44 posted on 07/30/2011 3:41:14 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: org.whodat

Ok. Thanks for the education.

However, since there will be a vote in the house, I will stick with my prediction. 50 or more RATS will vote for this bill. And I will stick my neck out even more.

Those 50 or more Rat votes will come from very liberal, protected districts.

After the vote, feel free to trash me if I am wrong. You can e-mail me and stick the knife in me, if u wish. But that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.


45 posted on 07/30/2011 3:43:32 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

“Why won’t Bonehead tell Reid his bill will be tabled, like Reid Tabled his? Why don’t u think about that and get back to me?

Bonehead will allow a vote. 50 or more RATS will vote for this bill.
Thats my prediction. Whats yours?”

—I don’t disagree with any of this. My original point was simply that some Dems will want to vote no because they will say it supposedly “cuts too much” (thus making more R votes necessary)- but Obama and the Dem leadership will get as many on board as needed to pass.

And of course, Boehner will ultimately offer his people like lambs to the slaughter, as well.


46 posted on 07/30/2011 3:44:11 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: eyedigress

It will go past the election. One way or the other. Probably via Mcconnells method

btw,
This is how we lose the election:

chucktodd Chuck Todd
McConnell appears to be making the case he’ll deal with WH and not Reid. And from what I gather, WH apparently is playing go between
13 minutes ago

Obama, the great negotiator.


47 posted on 07/30/2011 3:46:17 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Qbert
We do not have enough House members, and we have (at most) 10 Senators.

This is going to take several election cycles.

48 posted on 07/30/2011 3:46:47 PM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: Qbert

Did he say he was fully engaged before or after drooling down his chin?


49 posted on 07/30/2011 3:48:16 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Perdogg

Ok, So they can’t table.

However, my prediction still stands.


50 posted on 07/30/2011 3:48:39 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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