Skip to comments.Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 31 July 2011
Posted on 07/31/2011 5:13:39 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
July 31st, 2011
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif.; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.; Gene Sperling, director, National Economic Council.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): White House adviser David Plouffe; Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., chair, Republican Policy Committee, Finance Committee; Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo.; Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho; former Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; Sen. Chuck U. Schumer, D-N.Y.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Plouffe; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): McConnell; Schumer; Gene Sperling, director, National Economic Council; Mark Zandi, chief economist, Moody's Analytics.
12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"
1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"
2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"
3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "Late Edition"
4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"
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The Sunday Morning Bray, by Bray!
We ought always to thank God for you, brothers, and rightly so, because your faith is growing more and more and the LOVE every one of you has for each other is increasing. 2 Thes 1:3
Whoever wrote the latest presidential screed should resign or at least be held back from middle school. It wasnt so much a speech as it was a list of clichés desperately in search of a thought. Comparing himself to Ronald Reagan was a close comparison he only overshot by one president. Ok we get it people who fly in corporate jets provided by their companies should be punished. If they are Oil execs riding in corporate jets they should be executed. How many times has this regime used the corporate jet foil to fire up their base, wasnt that first used by him to vilify those evil auto industry execs so he could take away their companies? Speaking of which, why isnt GM and Chrysler sharing any sacrifice? We got the same old Stalinist drivel to hide the fact he has absolutely destroyed the economy.
Now we are seeing the same old tired formula of how all the Conservatives want to starve grandma and kill puppies while the commiecrats have only the purist of thoughts. Of course according to the formula the socialist Repubs begin to get nervous believing the phony polls and more phony pundiots that they will lose the next election as bad as the libs did this time. We thought we had a leader in Boehner only to find he was a deal maker who would rather play the game rather than fight in the face of these forces. Once again we cower in fear of being blamed for standing by our convictions rather than not letting the commies using another crisis to further their agenda.
This crisis was caused by Barney Frank and company by letting Fannie and Freddie commit untold billions in fraud so they could funnel cash to the DNC. This DNC cash machine was allowed to issue worthless loans by not allowing the underwriting of loans to people who had no income or methods of ever paying the loans which were backed by the American taxpayer. These cash machines paid multi-million dollar bonuses to the entire company that made Wall Street envious, measured by how many loans they could write regardless of the worthiness of the loans. This gave crooks such as Jamie Gorelick of 911 fame, multi-million dollar bonuses to shovel as much as that worthless paper in one door and out to the banks as they were provided cover by Moodys rating service. Jamie Gorelick made $40 million in 5 years although we dont know if she flew in any evil corporate jets. When the value of these loans was discovered this entire Ponzi scheme collapsed bringing Wall Street and the US economy down with it. This DC corruption cost us taxpayers nearly a trillion dollars and nobody was seriously punished, they simply had to return some of their cash.
This collapse of course was hidden by the commiestablishmedia who blamed it all on evil George Bush while they painted their messiah as the savior of the economy with his godlike image. While they were claiming he was making and saving jobs, he destroyed Wall Street by picking winners and losers through his Tarp program he helped push through which was a failure, only to be followed by porkulus which was a payoff to the unions and other corrupt friends only to outdo himself by stealing the Auto industry bondholders and giving their money to the unions. This of course wasnt enough as he closed down the oil exploration industry driving the cost of oil through the roof just like he promised he would and is doing the same to the electric power industry as he chases his fairy tale clean green energy.
These 60s commie ideas has put the American economy on its deathbed only to be cared for by the new DeathCare bill he and Nancy put in place to drive the final nail into our coffin. After all of that, he gets onto the TV for the 300th time to lecture Repubs about if you break it you own it. Pretty much like totaling your car around a tree and when the tow truck tries to unwrap it and scratches the paint, you hand him the bill for the car. No, the tow truck didnt cause the wreck and neither does not raising the debt limit make the debt to payment ratio any better it simply makes it worse. If they are still arguing on Aug 3rd or 4th the sun will still come up and America will still be in the exact same shape it is in today, out of money with a Marxist ideologue in the White House. There will only be decisions to make for a change of whether to pay for the hundred thousand extra employees who provide the grants for scientists to prove man is causing the demise of the purple flecked frog or the humpback lizard. The rest of us wouldnt even notice except for the reporters trying to prove the Rapture just occurred beause some school kids arent able to get into the Airplane museum, oh the humanity!
The Repubs should refuse to play the DC two step and let Dirtbag Reid vote down bill after bill until they get their precious shutdown and try to blame Armageddon on the Repubs. If it is going to happen lets make this argument now to bring the peoples attention to this out of control gummit we are living under. Lets argue this point while the bloated behemoth is shut down and see if most people even notice anything different in their lives. You know the employees in the end wont lose a penny and as always the only one taking it on the chin will be the taxpayer. Lets have the debate and let him vilify corporate jets and oil companies who actually made a profit like hes been doing from day one.
While were having these debates lets remind the American people why we are in this position and how they have destroyed every piece of our economy. While we are talking about what we can and cant cut lets mention why the economy needs an abundant and low priced energy supply. Lets remind them when you shut down millions of jobs in the energy industry its going to eliminate millions more in support and complimentary industries like transportation and manufacturing as well as farming. When we are being called Nazis and terrorists we can remind the American people there are reasons companies cant afford to hire when they know they are going to pay higher taxes on ObamaCare or face penalties and punishment. When they say the Repubs are heartless for sacrificing school loans for their corporate fat cats, they can ask how those corporations can provide jobs when his EPA is doing everything they can to close them down and skyrocket water prices in your communities or stop farmers from producing food for your families.
Right now the stage is set and it is critical the Repubs repeat the reasons we are in the crisis we are in. We are the ones who have been warning if you pass these wealth transfer bills there wont be any wealth left to transfer which would lead to a debt crisis. We are the ones who demanded an audit and reform of Fannie and Freddie or there could be a severe crash which would risk the taxpayers of the US. We were called racists, homophobes and every other name the libs use to make us back down and agree er compromise to their demands. We have been right and they have created this disaster so how about once we not shrink to their tactics and let them know who the commie tyrants are and we are willing to risk the election to stand up to their antics for once. That would be a breath of fresh air and the next election would be a landslide of revolutionary proportions. The commies have been exposed and will be for eighteen more months and then we will have patriots in charge to finally turn these America hating 60s marxist radicals out to the ash heap where they belong. America will then begin the long road back to Freedom.
Pray for America
Where there are cameras you can be sure there will be Chuck Schumer and Miss Lindsey Graham...
Speaking of which, did anyone watch the coverage of the House debate last night? Incredible contrast between the firebrand TEApublicans and the outraged nail-spitting spendRATs.
Some pretty good WWF Smackdown action from the Senate Republicans as well.
Good morning, AB.
Think I’ve got this debt ceiling thing figured out.
Congress voted a debt ceiling in order to protect taxpayers from Congress overspending the taxpayers money.
Congress decided that Congress really doesnt want to stop overspending the taxpayers money, so Congress wants the debt ceiling raised.
Congress will now tax the taxpayers more tax money so that Congress can raise the debt ceiling, thereby protecting the taxpayer from the Congress that will continue to overspend even more of the taxpayers money.
Who said this was complicated?
Terrific write up BRAy!
“The Repubs should refuse to play the DC two step and let Dirtbag Reid vote down bill after bill until they get their precious shutdown and try to blame Armageddon on the Repubs. “
This is already affecting Obozo’s poll numbers and his falling support among even Blacks-—down to 50 points from over 77 just not so long ago. It was good for Boehner to keep this Kabuki dance going for several weeks...it kept the ball in play and the voters heard it again and again..it was the only way we could get this across by actually demonstrating Reid’s intransigence.
Re the economy of the US, a side note that the democrat-media complex will not publish - the Canadian dollar is now worth $1.05US. The value of our dollar is melting away. How does that work with our import economy!!!
Paychecks have not gone up (and neither has inflation, so they say! Hah! More lies!) and jobs just continue to disappear.
I see more and more empty stores and signs on office buildings of Space to Let. But, oh no, drilling for oil or natural gas is bad. Ignore the fact that our country’s economy is based on plentiful cheap energy and on importing so much of what we use in our daily life.
I grieve for our country and pray for the continued strength of the “tea party” congressmen who are trying their best to reverse our downward trend.
I am relieved to see someone who is understanding the strategy, since I have heard about all I care to about how stupid and weak Boehner is. (If anyone starts that here again today, I will find somewhere else to occupy my time, as I don’t need any more of what I have heard on radio, twitter, and other sites for the last week).
It is. But the DNC wing of the media is only going to play the soundbites of spittle-spewing Donks forcasting TEA Party induced Armageddon.
Im going to go out on a limb and perhaps anger some of my fellow FReepers by advocating the RINO side for a moment. I think we are altogether too hard on Jon Boehner and really need to look at the political side for a moment. The single biggest problem for our side is we only control the House. We cannot have our way with this important but lonely political body as long as the democrats control the Senate and White House. However, if we are patient, we have a golden opportunity. This means biting the bullet and putting up with RINOs, half-measures, and yes, for now letting Obama win.
I think we can all agree that the economy is in shambles. The overall question for Americans is what we can do to get it going again. Forget why or how it got this way for a moment.
Now, I think we all agree that Obama owns this economy. Yet weve seen it time and again, how they still try to blame Bush. But now if they win on the budget this week, they will of course really own it. And the public will at least see that, looking up occasionally from their American Idol and summer fun pastimes.
Does anyone here believe the budget deal that the RINOs and democrats are proposing will solve our economic problems? If Obama gets his way and they have the debt ceiling off the table until after the election, then now this compromise damn well better work, in the eyes of the public. And let me tell you one little secret the media will not. The American people want a balanced budget. They understand that you cannot spend more than you earn. It really is a simple concept. Now, will they accept the class warfare arguments that the democrats and Obama are using to get the rich to pay more taxes? I dont think so. Given the above spending analogy, the people want a balanced budget and any fool can see we spend too much. We dont need a second job to bring in more money because we spend too much. The answer is to cut spending.
In my opinion, the democrats and Obama still do not get it. They cannot fix the economy UNTIL they really cut spending. All rhetoric aside, their ideas will NOT get the country back on its feet. The single biggest thing of course is Obamacare. Businesses are not growing because they expect one whale of a hit when that monstrosity starts.
Come next year, even the biggest voting block of independents will see this. There is only one way to get rid of Obamacare and get the economy back on its feet, and that is to fire Obama and the democrats.
So let the democrats enjoy their win. Let Obama think he is a superstar and the driveby media paint him as the Great Compromiser. Because you and I know one important fact. The economy is not going to improve until he is gone.
I sell antiques and collectibles on eBay, and it occurred to me several weeks ago to offer international shipping on everything I sell, not just select items.
I am increasingly shipping to foreign countries that would never have bought from the US due to the exchange rate several years ago. I am even shipping to Australia.
Oh, be careful if you don’t tow the party line on any issue...You will be called a Rhino or Lib and a troll...by the admin no less.
I always get a kick out of Jennifer Granholm. She deserves to be on Obama's re-election campaign payroll. I predict we'll here about the desperate plight of Michigan, and how only TOTUS and massive federal funds can save them.
See my number 17 right above!
That’s why this is the only thread I appear on. :-)
Mornin’ AB. Still hoping the GOP does not cave. Bambi is a moron, inexperienced,, terrible negotiator, BUT he seems to be getting everything he wants: raise debt limit, kick budget can past 2012 election and Christmas (his new found holiday), crush Tea Party, crush Boehner and McConnell, lock in “fact” that all our trouble are Bush’s fault and legacy. Absolutely amazing!
I agree with you....
The numbers are already going down for Obozo...He has lost in popularity, and his numbers of black voters has dropped 20 points in these last two weeks!
The populace has seen this and heard this for weeks now, and they are getting educated in a way that the Media would have never let conservatives just ‘explain” our position. It IS working.
Be prepared to get flamed though and called a Lib and a RHINO and a troll!ha.
My take on the last few weeks is that without the tea party the debt limit increase would have been passed without any attempt to rein in spending.
I see your point.
Its sad that it gets to that on Freep. It kills any real ‘discussion “ of different views of the subject among conservatives on tactics.
I absolutely agree with you. One thing I know is that the democrats ALWAYS overreach and end up turning off the public.
Last night Herbert Bloom, some sort of democrat economist, showed up on coast to Coast AM to “tell us what to think about the financial crisis.” Rather than drifting off to sleep I listened.
After hearing that Hillary had him give a colloquium for state department employees, I knew I was in for some good GOP trashing.
First, we had to hear about his very rich friend who has racehorses and show dogs and took him to eat in a fancy private club in New York founded by Alexander Hamilton wherre you got your own private waiter! How rich is that guy!!
THEN, he told us how this, THIS type of guy got the Bush tax cuts! Then he pointed out how even Reagan raised taxes! And then, we had to hear about how Bush 43 was a moron and his father had at least 20 IQ points on him, because Bush 43 had the sense to raise taxes.
Obvious propaganda for the overnight listeners. I shut the darn radio off and said a Rosary.
The big fear is that S&P and Moodys will take away our coveted AAA bond rating. They are asking for 4 trillion in cuts over ten years which means in actuality 400 billion in year 1 since budget cuts don't transfer from Congress to Congress the way taxation does.
S&P and Moodys have no doubt noticed that we take in roughly 200 billion per month yet manage to spend 300,not a healthy situation for would be AAA bond purveyors.
What they are really asking is that we shed 400 billion of that overspending a year which is 35 billion per month or roughly 1/3 of our deficit spending. A truly rational request that any rating agency would ask from any debtor.
What do we do in response to the debt assesor's request? Little or nothing. Boners first salvo was next to nothing in the first year and my guess is the compromises will be somewhat less than the 400 billion that the rating agencies are looking for.
We have a colossal failure of government to do the right thing more more time..
I've got this pitchfork they can have......and some dense, malleable mineral....
What they can’t blame on Bush, they blame on the evil Tea Party.
Just this morning on F&F, the talkingpoint of one of the guests was about ‘the Tea Party’ holding America hostage by them not approving Reid’s plan.
[Tea Party has done a lot of damage — to the political establishment. I hope we see another great flushing in 2012.]
Great catch on the inflation scenario maica! Just fill er up or go to the grocery store and tell me we have no inflation! Yeah riggghhhttt!
You are so correct on how this "crisis" should be handled - but which is now looking more and more like another Liberal home run. I fear what we are seeing is only another round of Lucy, Charlie Brown, and the football.
The American People see the fraud for what it is but the "leaders" of the Gutless Old Party in Washington can't seem to shake their old habits of folding their winning hand of a royal flush to three sixes.
As Casey Stengel once remarked in disgust to his hapless Mets, "Can't anybody here play this game?"...
OMG just too good!!!
For the mushy middle who won't take sides, this is a huge issue that will kill the dems come next November. People will think: “OK, they won, they said the TEA party are terrorists (even though I agree that spending is out of control and needs to be cut), holding back the economy and all. The “News” says if we only let the President lead us out of this mess things will get better. Even though I'm not sure, since I am a independent I'll bite my tongue and wait and see....”
Six months later... “Where's the improvement? What, things are continuing to get worse? I thought the President was going to make things better when the evil TEA partiers and Republicans were put in their place????? WHY are they getting WORSE?”
Come November, 2012... "No, I am not better off then I was 4 years ago!" (pulls lever for Sarah and Republican senator and House candidates, governor, state reps, etc, etc.....)
Happy Sunday, my FRiends...Friend Gretchen Carlson just grilled Garamendi (D-CA) asking just what Barry’s plan was and he said that Barry is SOOOOOOOO engaged, more engaged than any president ever. Ever!
While that is true I am reminded of a few words that Rush uttered last week, don't recall which day but he applauded the new Tea Party Pats in the House for holding the line and forcing Boner to at least come up with more spending cuts than he originally put forth.
Boehner is old school. He was always taught to compromise and look for the deal while our new Tea Party Pats, as Rush noted, can't be bribed,bullied, don't care about committee assignments, can't be told to tow the party line or else, and don't give a ____(expletive deleted) about whether or not the get reelected!!!
IN a word they are bullet proof conservatives and Rush noted that and saluted them.I salute them as well.
Morning AB, All .
As always, thank you AB, for doing this thread, dependably, admirably, silently and stalwartly.
Hot as Hades here in the swamps of Delaware but August 1st looms. Soon will be Labor Day and then the tourists shall return home. The roads nearby will again be safe, the grass will turn from brown to green, cooler air will come in. I would, even and at this point, almost welcome the hurricanes soon to come.
All this past week, as granddaughter paid a surprise visit for four days and from which I have survived, I did, as expected, pay close attention to the debt ceiling/balanced budget/Boehner/Reid drama of the past week. Also, as expected and sometimes even welcomed, I have an opinion.
So here’s my quick and dirty summary. It began with what the Blue Blood Ruling Class GOP thought was a tossed bone to the Tea Party types recently elected in a massive wave to America’s House. It was called CCB, “Cap, Cut and Balance”. The House voted it through handily, even with some Democrat help. The senate voted to table the thing, assholes all, but the Repubs all voted AGAINST tabling. So far, so good. The pubs stand united, look brave, stand touch. Spines of rubber, we must dream, were turning to spines of resin almost.
As it would turn out, the CCB thing was considered a bit of pathos to appease the Tea Party types .recall please that EIGHTY FIVE new Representatives in America’s House were replacement of incumbents because America was not kidding. At the time it was the only way available for ordinary citizens who carry this country on our backs, could let our legislators that what with Obamacare and ceaseless spending, we were mad. It was a tidal wave overthrow.
Only evidently the congress thought it would be business as usual .as in...aren’t those Tea Party types cute...God bless.
So Speaker of the House, John Boehner comes up with the REAL bill as intended right along no mind that dream bill existing only in the minds of the Tea Party types. His bill, as considered a victory by the Blue Blood GOP types, was to keep new spending (ie...increase taxes) to a minimum, with luck remove any talk of such a thing completely.
But whoa! The Tea Party types in America’s House were having none of it. Well sure the elected ruling class, both Dems and Repubs, covered their mouths and smirked at any notion that these upshots were going to somehow make them produce a balanced budget and all the work with that. Much less put some kind of cap on the debt ceiling because they’d already increased the debt by 3+ some trillion during the Obama admin, they wanted some 4 trillion more...perish the thought you should limit what we want to spend. Finally, cut expenses...heh. Yeah well, the Ruling Class sniffed. We’ll cut expenses over the next ten years, smirk, smirk, by which time the Tea Party will be dead or too old to remember such silly stuff.
Lots of drama as the Ruling Class GOP inside-the-beltway types sniffed on Thursday, spelling out, sniff sniff .witness Charles Krauthammer who resembles the main character in Despicable ME I must smile .”by tonight Boehner will push his (version 2) bill through the House, the Tea Party types will be appeased, and on it will go.”
Bill Kristol, Kathryn Hamm, even Laura Ingraham .all day Thursday pooh poohing much to the effect of my paraphrase above ”the Tea Party types just need to appease their base” .the wise pundits inside-the DC beltway told.
Every damn one of them got it wrong. Listen to them guys, they know everything. Insert smirk here.
The Tea Party guys in the House, bloodied, beaten, reduced in number until even one=ce admired West called the Tea Party schizophrenics...trust that guy again why don’t you?
But they insisted that Boehner send it through again, a version three if you will, but put the BALANCED BUDGET back in.
Politicians with principles, folks, it’s stopped the punditry Ruling Class dead in their tracks.
Now I know there’s much skepticism about a balanced budget requirement but you gotta start somewhere. We complain endlessly that the pubs, they never start ANYWHERE. “Wait until 2012,” they tell us. Or we should wait until we have a repub prez, or wait until we have over half the House, or wait until a majority in the senate, oops, now we need 60 for the filibusters. Hold on, gotta give the gop prez one full time as to not jeopardize chances for re-election.
We now have almost 70% of the country in favor of a balanced budget (BB), we have a negotiating sticking point (extending debt limit), we have the attention of the country.
WHEN THE HELL IS GOOD ENOUGH IF NOT NOW???
How the Dems gonna justify NOT wanting a BB? Everybody has to balance the budget, even if not until at the darn checkout line but it’s simple, we get it, you got much to spend and so much to spend it on. Gotta make choices, take out a loan which adds loan payments, or adjust the intake/outflows. All of the states, every business including snow ball stands, every household...has to, ahem, balance the budget. Why should we keep on allowing the feds to spend what they want, when they want...forever and ever? What kind of way is that to run a country?
“It’s too much work to balance a big federal budget,” the Ruling Class GOP, aghast at the turn of events. “Besides there’s wars and natural disasters,” they warn, eyes big, scared, shivering that the Tea Party types are dragging them screaming and sobbing with spines now reduced to chewing gum.
Lookit, you can sit all day and list the reasons why something CAN’T be done. In fact, instead of doing something, take up the time listing the reasons why NOT to do it...why not?
There’s ways around everything. Sometimes you gotta expect more out of people, maybe to do the right thing. I’m thinking if 2/3 of the states pass a BB amendment, the politicos might get a clue.
I don’t suppose this BB thing will become part of the raising the debt ceiling package. But give the Tea Party types credit. Like the Democrats/libs who defeat us every time, they struck when the iron was hot. They got the issue before the public instead of shutting scared mouths and struggling to keep the status quo. Turning this ship of state and its 285 million passengers is a slow process.
You gotta start somewhere.
I been telling you people about the struggle here in Delaware, the awful time normal law-abiding, country loving citizens have been getting, not from the opposition party. For the GOP Ruling Class elite does not fight the Democrats but they’ll beat the hell out of who?
THEIR OWN DAMN BASE!
It’s a start, folks, but don’t give up. Although I admit I gave up so many times.
This country has been taken over by a broad spectrum of Ruling Class tyrants, all of them anxious to keep their niche in the world of polished nails, perfectly appointed head hairs. They continue the status quo though the status quo is going to destroy us.
Hang in there.
I agree that the Speaker has managed to illuminate the spending problem in D.C. If he had been successful with CCB the One would have been guaranteed reelection as the economy would definitely rebound in the next 15 months.
Obama, by winning this battle, will lose the war (his reelection. The deal he has made to pile up more debt between now and November, 2012 unfortunately will thrust our Country deeper in depression.
Some idiot from Move-on (down into more debt) now on c-spam telling everyone that all we need to do is take more from the rich and all will be well. That we really are not broke we just need to rape the rich a little more. Truly hilarious the way they think, if you can call it that.
Zeros job approval is down to 40%. Maybe some are noticing that he really is no leader having not put forth a budget in over 800 days and not having the guts to put forth anything in writing vis a vi the debt ceiling.
Good article bray. I wish I could have blamed the previous supervisor for several years when I took my current job, BUT I owned the all the problems from day one.
It is what they did,Tea Party Pats are a whole new breed...so far.
Some idiot from Move-on (down into more debt) now on c-spam telling everyone that all we need to do is take more from the rich and all will be well.
Walter Williams puts the lie to that solution in this excellent article:
What you say looks logical until you consider a poll from CNN(yeah I know the commie net) that shows over 50% blame us for the debt ceiling deal not going through.
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