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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 31 July 2011
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 31 July 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/31/2011 5:13:39 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Girlene

ook we are broke. The only way this is every going to be solved if we accept that every single thing in the US Federal Budget is going to have to be cut.

In a $687 billion Defense budget there is at least 10% that can be cut. Conservative are never going to win this war if they fall into this old DC trap.

DC always avoids making any serious spending cuts by pitting one interest group against the other. Defense Hawks against Entitlements, Domestic spending vrs security spending etc.

The only way to win this Budget battle is to take these tactics away from DC. EVERYTHING has to be on the table for at least some reduction.


281 posted on 07/31/2011 10:31:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: MNJohnnie; kevao

The link to this excellent article by Walter Williams was posted earlier in this thread. Would that our politicians and spokesmen would memorize the numbers.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/568737/201104111831/Tax-The-Rich-Good-Luck-With-That.aspx


282 posted on 07/31/2011 10:32:41 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: kabar
Cut (in Washington parlance) = a reduction in the rate of growth of spending

This needs to come from the mouth of every single Tea Party Republican over and over and over until the sheeple in this country realize how they have been hoodwinked by the politicians and the DB LSM. There are NO CUTS.

Cut (in Washington parlance) = a reduction in the rate of growth of spending
283 posted on 07/31/2011 10:33:43 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Paragraphs are your friend....


I agree and was surprised when I posted they didn’t take...not sure why not. They were paragraphs when I typed them. Sorry.


284 posted on 07/31/2011 10:37:27 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Oh, I'm sure there are some skewed poll saying just that. Here's one I found. Debt ceiling poll: Voters with Obama

Of course, the way those poll questions were posed makes all the difference in the world.
285 posted on 07/31/2011 10:40:01 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Alas Babylon!
2010 was a start. 2012 will either finish that start or it will be our end. I am convinced of this.

You have a lot of company. Start with Levin who has been saying for months now that 2012 is it!!!
286 posted on 07/31/2011 10:41:04 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: MNJohnnie

oops, sorry MNJohnnie, that polls was for all Americans, not Republicans.


287 posted on 07/31/2011 10:42:56 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: FreeReign

Bohner’s problem is he has been in the DC bubble world too long. He really belives that what ever the Junk Media is saying is true. We need a whole scale house cleaning. 2010 was a good start, but it was only a start. The war against the DC Machine must go on.


288 posted on 07/31/2011 10:43:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Forced to watch CNN while trapped at the pile if dishes in Mom’s sink. The “Breaking News!” has been completely staged to announce a deal. Really clumsy.


289 posted on 07/31/2011 10:46:35 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: Fishtalk
Maybe when we get the GOP prez, the pub House and senate in a couple of years. We are always patted on the heads and told we must wait.

I was listening to this debate last week about "Oh it is soooo hard with only 1/2 of 1/3 - this is the absolute best we can do until we retake the WH"

STRANGE - I never heard Nancy Piglosi bellyaching about not having the WH during 2007 and 2008 when she was working her will on America as Speaker.
290 posted on 07/31/2011 10:49:24 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Havisham

CNN’s coverage has been great, last night and today. FOX has stunk..


291 posted on 07/31/2011 10:51:46 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the earth..it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“did anyone watch the coverage of the House debate last night? Incredible contrast between the firebrand TEApublicans and the outraged nail-spitting spendRATs.”

I kept trying to, at least the CSPAN segments featuring Tea Party Repubs, but it kept saying “This Program Is Not Available to View or Purchase”, even though they clearly were televised earlier. Aaaargh.


292 posted on 07/31/2011 10:52:30 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: Cheerio

You left out Harry Reid. The dems won the Senate then, too.

It makes a difference.


293 posted on 07/31/2011 10:54:50 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Truth29
They will have divided the GOP against itself. What a mess

Conservative really need to stop listening to the junk media. Mindless dogmatic lock step loyalty to a particular party is not a sign of winning but of stagnation.

All the real intellectual fervor and movement is on the GOP side. The Dems are stagnant and intellectually bankrupt. The are stuck in the politics of the 1970s.

They may win a political battle here and there but they are losing the war.

2010 was merely the start, not the culmination, of a political revolution in this country. The Tea Party won a victory here too.

Without the Tea Party movement the Debt Ceiling bill and the spending increases are passed automatically and without thought.

No matter what happens here, that the DC machine had to fight this hard for this Debt Ceiling bill is a sign they are losing the larger political war.

This was, to paraphrase Churchill after El Alemanin. "This is not the end, nor even the beginning of the end, it is however, the end of the beginning."

294 posted on 07/31/2011 10:55:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: MNJohnnie

I’m hoping in 15 months its not even a contest but you never know. We are constantly stuck defending their lies about us.


295 posted on 07/31/2011 10:57:07 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Fishtalk
“Cause Obamer’s shows no reticense in going out and demoguoguing everything even while such nonsense brings down his approval...for sure with the re-election wind at his back he will have carte blanche to dismantle and destroy this country.

Don't like the notion but I believe tis true.”

Consider that at least 2 USSC Justices will retire in the next administration. I can only believe they haven't retired because of the 0’s demand that only certified communists will be considered.

If the dems think the -Rs are blocking the budget, wait until we are faced with that.

296 posted on 07/31/2011 10:58:36 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (I have a liberal arts degree, do you want fries with that?)
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To: Girlene
Just found this FR thread discussing this provision of the tentative pla

And the thread is just nonsense. The usual "Cut everything but what I want spending on" that DC uses to avoid any real reforms. Sorry, I know this is going to piss off a lot of "Conservatives" but in a $687 billion defense budget there is at least 10% that can, and should, be cut.

EVERYTHING must be on the table. NO ONE can have sacred cows any longer

297 posted on 07/31/2011 10:59:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: MNJohnnie
I wish they'd been screaming it at the top of their lungs.

What I've seen of the "deal" it does not meet the criteria laid out publicly by the credit rating houses which wanted to see $4T in cuts which only "Cut, Cap & Balance" offered.

This "deal" should cause our rating to drop just as any "clean raise" of the debt limit--that Obama asked for and some Rats were still advocating yesterday--would have done.

It remains to be seen if S&P and Moodys have the guts to call WA out.

298 posted on 07/31/2011 11:01:16 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Paul Ryan on Reid's bill: "Let's cover the moon with yogurt" http://post.ly/2gTED)
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To: MNJohnnie

For the sake of the Country, I agree with you.

We’ve over spent, and now we have to make cuts. Since we’ll NEVER agree on what should and shouldn’t be cut, we just should cut it all.

Real reform will take a bigger conservative victory. Hell, even an across the board cut will take a big conservative victory!


299 posted on 07/31/2011 11:03:35 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Miss Marple

“I am relieved to see someone who is understanding the strategy, since I have heard about all I care to about how stupid and weak Boehner is.”

Fear not, MM - a lot of us do, and agree with you. I post about it ad nauseum on various threads :-)))))))


300 posted on 07/31/2011 11:05:31 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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