Skip to comments.Jeffs' rambling provides courtroom theater
Posted on 07/31/2011 9:25:36 AM PDT by MizSterious
* By Kiah Collier
* San Angelo Standard Times
* Posted July 30, 2011 at 7:16 p.m.
SAN ANGELO, Texas We all expected Warren Jeffs' trial to be interesting. What we didn't expect was for it to get so interesting so fast.
On Thursday, the first big bomb dropped. Jeffs fired his seasoned, high-profile defense team and delivered a mostly incoherent 30-minute speech in which he asked for more time to prepare the "pure defense" he said his attorneys could not provide.
Jeffs firing his attorneys was surprising, but not necessarily an unexpected move: He has fired several attorneys before, delaying the trial for about three years.
As The Salt Lake Tribune has been reporting, Jeffs has been telling his followers that he would never go to trial, that the prison walls would fall down around him. Because of this and the reviling proclamation he delivered in court on Friday in which he (or rather, God) threatened the "counties of prosecutorial zeal with sickness and death" I think it's safe to say Jeffs genuinely believes he is above the law.
What was unexpected, and unprecedented, about Thursday's proceedings, was how much Jeffs spoke. The 55-year-old fundamentalist Mormon leader has been in custody in various states for about five years since being apprehended in Nevada in 2006. Since then, he has been in and out of courtrooms.
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"Let it stop now."
Jeffs continued, "I shall let all peoples know of your unjust ways. I shall send a scourge upon the counties of prosecutorial zeal to be humbled by sickness and death."
Before calling the jury back in, Walther warned Jeffs that if he threatened the jury, he would be removed from court.
Jeffs told her he was only relaying "the message."
"Well, don't relay the message," Walther said.
The only person more arrogant than warren jeffs is obama.
Warren Jeffs is led into the Tom Green County Courthouse, Friday, July 29.
They actually do seem to have a lot in common, but arrogance might be at the head of the list.
From the article “It seemed to me as if he were saying the underage issue is part of the polygamous way of life, that females need to learn as early as they can how to be good wives and mothers, and that the fact that many of them are not legally adults when they are either married or impregnated is not harmful, not a big deal.”
While maybe not expressly stated (I can’t find a full transcript of the speech), this is definitely their mindset. Women are cattle, created for breeding and slavery and to please the men. They are brainwashed from early childhood on how to be a ‘good’ wife and mother. They are told that is their only reason for existence. A few of the colonies allow girls to go to school at least through grade school, but a few do not allow them to go at all.
They are taught that the earlier they are ‘chosen’ for marriage the more righteous they are. In their world, a 12 year old girl, being married off is an honor and a privilege.
The rest of us recognize it for what it is, child sexual abuse but they are so brainwashed and controlled that they really don’t see it.
Some of this mindset falls over into the Mainstream LDS as well, if a girl is not married by the time they are 21 they are considered an ‘old maids and it is usually recommended that they go on an LDS mission to ‘make them more marriageable”. I was counseled to prepare for an LDS mission at age 20 for just that reason. Their focus is on home and children (and I have nothing against that in general)so much it is to the point that they have difficulty relating to outsiders, especially those outside the LDS faith and to other adults. This is particularly true in Utah. I do not see this with SAHM of other faiths.
Is he trying to act crazy to avoid jail? I thought he was deemed sane for trial way back when. Maybe the years in jail have made him insane because he sounds like he is playing a game or he is nuts.
Unless megalomania is considered legally insane, I think the man is sane, in the legal sense. He knows that what he is doing is wrong by US standards, even if he can’t see the harm he does in human terms. I also think he’s been doing this act for so long that in some ways, he believes his own lies. If you can find the entire speech online (the SLT has it, but we can’t post from there), you’ll see exactly where his mind is at this time. What he said was no less than an old fashioned curse, the same kind that witches used to create. In other words, pure evil. Prayers up for the judge, the law enforcement folks, and the jury.
That’s exactly how I understand it too, no matter how much the “Sister Wives” try to sugarcoat things.
Yeah, well if he's presenting himself as evidence of that, it's an EPIC FAIL.
Is he trying to act crazy to avoid jail?
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IIRC, he was found fit to stand trial and declared legally sane. I do expect him to be put up for evaluation on appeal though.
Sister wives is pure propaganda to gain support for the legalization of polygamy. I haven’t seen the show much but from what I saw, it isn’t reality in the least.
Seriously, this freak just told a courtroom that God was going to cause death and illness to them all? Hey Mister, way to endear yourself to the jury! lol
He’ll wait until he’s sentenced and sent to Huntsville. In Texas he’ll not receive any ‘prophet’ treatment.
These sexual sociopaths know they are a target from the general population.
He’ll feign insanity in Huntsville so he can be sent to Vernon for evaluation. Predictable.
I knew he was going to lash out and start threatening as soon as Judge Walther imposed the Court’s rules on him - and stopped his game of revolving attorneys as a delaying tactic.
Now he’s trying to usurp Judge Walther’s authority and make her lose it. She’s dealing with him in a polite but firm manner, and even using humor. He’s not able to move her off center.
I predict tomorrow he’ll come unwound. He’s had all weekend to digest he isn’t getting his way.
It's Mike Watkiss at his best. He says whatever happens to Warren Jeffs - the media is already guilty. Then he goes on to excoriate them, especially Oprah.
In the YouTube videos of Mr. Jeff's being led into the Court house - Mike Watkiss is the person you hear shouting the hard questions. He's been tireless in his anti-polygamy reporting. Hats off to him!
You have to marry them early so that no one else gets them.
You have to marry them early so that no one else gets them.
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Not quite. Most polygamists are part of one of the groups, a ‘church’, and have a prophet. In all of these groups, the Prophet is the one who decides who will marry whom. Now the upper leaders obviously are more likely to get their choice, but it isn’t like you can go to the prophet (at least for most members) and say “I want to marry so-and-so” and it is automatically granted. The hierarchy is strictly observed and has been since the days of Brigham Young.
So if you are in tight with the prophet then you can more or less get pick of the litter? Shaking my head & praying these women get some sort of help to get away from men like this. Sadly it seems so many are brainwashed that they don’t seem to see any other way of life.
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