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Cain wins straw poll (WEstern Conservative Summit, CO)
WCS ^ | July 31, 2011 | WCS

Posted on 07/31/2011 1:17:39 PM PDT by Clairity

Cain: 246

Perry 67

Romney 49

Bachmann: 44

Santorum: 50

Ron Paul: 12

Palin: 5

Total: 246

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; conservatives; elections; palin; perry; romney; strawpoll

1 posted on 07/31/2011 1:17:44 PM PDT by Clairity
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To: Clairity

It doesn’t add up, because there were a few votes for John Bolton, Gingrich, Pawlenty, but they were in single digits and didn’t capture them.


2 posted on 07/31/2011 1:20:03 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

Cain jumped the shark when he apologized to Muslims this past week.


3 posted on 07/31/2011 1:25:10 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Cain did WHAT?


4 posted on 07/31/2011 1:27:01 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Coolidge for President!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Cain has no chance of actually getting the nomination, nor any chance against Obama.

Perry came in 2nd, a distant 2nd, but he came out ahead of Romney. He is the one with ability to win both the GOP nomination and beat Obama.

Must be a shock to many here, that while Sarah Palin was on the ballot, she got 5 votes out of the 508 cast.


5 posted on 07/31/2011 1:27:35 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

CORRECTION on TOTAL VOTES: 508 (NOT “246”) — sorry, was doing it quickly.


6 posted on 07/31/2011 1:28:36 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: mrreaganaut
Cain apologizes to Muslim Americans
7 posted on 07/31/2011 1:30:31 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: mrreaganaut; Virginia Ridgerunner

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110729/NEWS02/307290040/Herman-Cain-apologizes-offending-Muslims


8 posted on 07/31/2011 1:30:31 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity
Cain has no chance of actually getting the nomination, nor any chance against Obama.

Zero chance whatsoever, but he still adds something to the debate. It is good he chose to run, though if he were serious he would have won a couple local/state elections first.

Perry came in 2nd, a distant 2nd, but he came out ahead of Romney. He is the one with ability to win both the GOP nomination and beat Obama.

Pretty much. I have one concern with Perry. He seems to be such an ideal candidate this time around that his hesitation to run and endless testing the waters makes me wonder if he doesn't have some problem skeletons he is worried about. I'm not from Texas, but from an outsiders point of view Perry seems to have everything going for him including an extremely weak frontrunner in Romney. Why is his decision to run seem so agonizing.

Must be a shock to many here, that while Sarah Palin was on the ballot, she got 5 votes out of the 508 cast.

I think people have concluded she isn't running. Palin is my candidate of choice, but it begins to appear to me that she isn't going to run this time around.

9 posted on 07/31/2011 1:36:48 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

yes.


10 posted on 07/31/2011 1:40:28 PM PDT by ken21 (dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Clairity

Yeah Perry got all the DREAM votes.


11 posted on 07/31/2011 1:40:28 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Clairity
Cain has no chance of actually getting the nomination, nor any chance against Obama.

To the first part of your post, I agree.

To the second part, Cain would destroy obama....especially in the debates.

12 posted on 07/31/2011 1:48:43 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Longbow1969

I personally think she’s looking at a future senate run in Arizona.


13 posted on 07/31/2011 1:49:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Frankly, just about anyone in the race could destroy Obama in a debate.

The fact that John McCain didn’t is beyond suspicious. As Much as I despise the man, I can’t deny he had the experience to crush Obama but didn’t.


14 posted on 07/31/2011 1:53:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek
I personally think she’s looking at a future senate run in Arizona.

Meh, she'd have more influence by continuing her role as a private citizen doing exactly what she's doing now.

I think for Governor Palin, a run for President is the only thing that would appeal to her. She isn't going to accept another VP slot either. I think a big part of her wants to give it a go, but my hunch at this point is she's decided to hold off till 2016 or 2020. She's still very young and something seems to be holding her back this time around. I hope I'm wrong because I will always support her, but it just doesn't seem like she is setting the stage for a presidential run in 2012.

15 posted on 07/31/2011 1:56:28 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Clairity

Michele Bachmann — 9 percent, 44 votes
John Bolton — 4 percent, 20 votes
Herman Cain — 48 percent, 246 votes
Newt Gingrich — 1 percent, 3 votes
Rudy Giuliani — 0 percent, 0 votes
Jon Huntsman — 0 percent, 1 vote
Gary Johnson — 0 percent, 1 vote
Thaddeus McCotter — 0 percent, 2 votes
Sarah Palin — 1 percent, 5 votes
Ron Paul — 2 percent, 12 votes
Tim Pawlenty — 1 percent, 7 votes
Rick Perry — 13 percent, 67 votes
Mitt Romney — 10 percent, 49 votes
Rick Santorum — 10 percent, 50 votes
Paul Ryan -– 1 vote

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/herman-cain-wins-western-conservative-summit-straw-poll-rick-perry-second.html


16 posted on 07/31/2011 2:02:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife (a)
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To: cripplecreek
As Much as I despise the man, I can’t deny he had the experience to crush Obama but didn’t.

He feared the "R" word more than he wanted the job. Beat a black fair and square anywhere other than on a field of play or a ball court, and you're branded a racist.

17 posted on 07/31/2011 2:10:46 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
To the second part, Cain would destroy obama....especially in the debates

I agree completely. And I think that he is the only one who could. He can beat Obama at that game, both with his knowledge of economics and problem solving, and with his ability and background as a minister who knows how to deliver comments with emotion and impact.

On the international scene, however, I think he leaves too much to be considered by many as a viable contender. He is the one I would love to see get the nomination, but the GOP good old boys would not get behind him nor would they try another inexperienced person. Obama gave the country enough trouble, being that he had absolutely no leadership or administrative skills. I don't think the GOP would support someone who hadn't been around Washington and learned the ropes on the international issues.

Yet, I don't see anyone who could pound Obama in a debate among the current contenders. And, THAT, is what the GOP needs to reel in the people who vote on flash and not substance, unfortunate as that might seem, we just don't have a current declared candidate who would excite the on-the-fence voters.

18 posted on 07/31/2011 2:22:53 PM PDT by CitizenM (He who is silent is understood to consent)
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To: Clairity
I'll just copy and paste my response to the Bachmann straw poll thread.

For what it's worth, straw polls are generally worthless. If you don't believe me look at how many straw polls Paul and Romney won in 2007-08 compared to how many McCain won. The only exception to that rule is Ames which offers some insight into the outcome of the Iowa caucuses (the top 2 finishers are usually correct, though not necessarily in the correct order). And outside of its possible relevance to the caucuses, even the Ames straw poll doesn't offer much in the way of insight.

19 posted on 07/31/2011 3:05:28 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

In general people who put down straw polls only do so when their candidate didn’t win, and if their candidate wins they are the first to post it.


20 posted on 07/31/2011 4:32:45 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Longbow1969

Yes, any time a governor writes an executive order forcing all 12-year-old girls in the state to be vaccinated for HPV, he’s got skeletons in his closet. You can read more about it here: http://bit.ly/bdwYP4


21 posted on 07/31/2011 4:51:18 PM PDT by ReporterGal
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To: ReporterGal
Yes, any time a governor writes an executive order forcing all 12-year-old girls in the state to be vaccinated for HPV, he’s got skeletons in his closet.

Yeah, the Gardasil thing isn't a deal breaker. This has been well debated and in the public eye forever and is not a skeleton for him to be worried about. Obviously many people opposed it, but it's nothing new that could derail a campaign. I am more talking about affairs, out of wedlock kids, past drug issues, etc, stuff like that.

It just seems like Perry has such a perfect setup to run, but something seems to be making him hesitate and hold back. I just wonder if that is some issue in his past that could destroy his campaign.

22 posted on 07/31/2011 4:58:36 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Kartographer

That certainly appears to be the case. Personally, I put them down all the time. Paul won 25 straw polls prior to the 2008 primary. Romney won 23. McCain won 5. They’re completely irrelevant to the outcome of the campaign.


23 posted on 07/31/2011 5:39:48 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: CitizenM
we just don't have a current declared candidate who would excite the on-the-fence voters.

I agree with everything you posted and especially the part I just highlighted.

The on the fence voter, IOW, the idiots who only pay attention when emotions are high and times are tough....the ones who can be swayed and have no principles or knoweledge of history and honor of the Founders.

Obama was the perfect pick for the culmination of decades of socialist takeover...he has it all.....he's the one (Their Mesiah)

In a world of common sense, this next election should be a no brainer but unfortunately, there is no common sense anymore.....Donald Duck should be able to walk away with this, hopefully he will.

24 posted on 07/31/2011 7:18:37 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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