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There is NO debt deal yet. The House has not voted yet.
Vanity | July 31, 2011 | Pyx

Posted on 07/31/2011 6:37:16 PM PDT by pyx

Its not over. There has NOT been a deal yet. There is only agreement between the "leaders" of the Senate and the "leaders" of the House. The House of Representatives has not voted on it yet. There are military cuts. Your children and grandchildren will be indebted forever. The Balanced Budget Amendment will be destroyed. Boehner will give equal decisions on this Bill to committee democRATs such as Pelosi.

There is still time to stop this monstrosity that will destroy America by calling your representative and telling them they will be PRIMARIED out of their job next election if they support raising the debt ceiling.


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Phone your House representatives and tell them they must not support this travesty.
1 posted on 07/31/2011 6:37:22 PM PDT by pyx
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To: pyx

Neither has the Senate.


2 posted on 07/31/2011 6:39:11 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: pyx
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies...

Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

- Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), March 20, 2006

3 posted on 07/31/2011 6:40:54 PM PDT by McGruff (Hold The Line!)
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To: Perdogg

Thanks for posting this. Everyone needs to understand this. Ther is no deal nithing.

Also rush has not had his say yet. Hee hee hee


4 posted on 07/31/2011 6:41:48 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: pyx

If we want to save the counry, we have to win the White House and Senate next year. Until then, we have to cut the best deal we can.


5 posted on 07/31/2011 6:42:57 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Perdogg

People get taken in by talk of “the deal” all the time. I think the parties do it in hopes people will stop calling and screwing up promises they make with each other.


6 posted on 07/31/2011 6:44:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: pyx

Obama is on tv takinng creit for HIS solutions. All he did was throw tantrums and walk out. Thus idiots arrogance know no bounds. I can’t stand this man. He is pathetic.


7 posted on 07/31/2011 6:45:20 PM PDT by mardi59 (T)
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To: pyx

THE BUSH TAX RATES ARE ALLOWED TO EXPIRE......

THAT IS A TAX INCREASE.......

THIS DEAL IS A FRUAD ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE......


8 posted on 07/31/2011 6:45:25 PM PDT by stockpirate (Proud member of the TEA Party Hobbits.........remember the hobbits won the day)
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To: Clintonfatigued

we don’t need the whitehouse and we likely won’t win it. the Senate, however, is a other story. gotta watch the PR backlash over this debt crisis though or it may bite us in the butt with the unsavvy middle of the road voters.


9 posted on 07/31/2011 6:46:34 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Agreed, as long as the house reviews the structure and rules of this commission and the fall back triggers, and makes sure it is not structured to bite us in the butt later, it makes sense to get the best deal possible, move on to the 2012 budget and 2012 election.


10 posted on 07/31/2011 6:46:34 PM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: pyx
Here is the BOEHNER SELLOUT LIST for all to see (with his name on it).
11 posted on 07/31/2011 6:46:49 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: pyx

AND, I just heard on Fox News that the Bush Tax Cuts are allowed to expire at the end of 2012.


12 posted on 07/31/2011 6:47:10 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: ilgipper

that was kind of weird.


13 posted on 07/31/2011 6:47:54 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The best deal we can get?

A straight debt ceiling increase might have been better, time will tell


14 posted on 07/31/2011 6:48:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

You are right.. Hard to do what we want when we control 1/3 of the Government..


15 posted on 07/31/2011 6:48:19 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS)
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To: pyx

Unless your rep is a Dem, tell them to support it- and their president!

It’s not the worse bill they could have given us, but it would be great for the Tea Party if there are just Dem and RINO votes for this.


16 posted on 07/31/2011 6:48:35 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: The Bronze Titan

nobody is sold out yet. the fat lady remains unsung.


17 posted on 07/31/2011 6:49:07 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: pyx

Two years from now on July 31, 2013, I predict the GDP to debt ratio will be at least 120% – approaching Greek level.


18 posted on 07/31/2011 6:49:37 PM PDT by Carismar
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To: SubMareener

ugh


19 posted on 07/31/2011 6:49:46 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“if we want to save the counry, we have to win the White House and Senate next year. Until then, we have to cut the best deal we can.”

No way. If we want to save the usa we need to draw a line now. Derail this “deal” and blow the whol thing up. We need aclean slate.


20 posted on 07/31/2011 6:49:49 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: pyx

As long as base-line budgeting is used it is a bad deal based on the false assumption the economy is always increasing.


21 posted on 07/31/2011 6:49:57 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: RC one

Moochelle is going to sing?


22 posted on 07/31/2011 6:50:04 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: SubMareener

The GOP House had better not give up extending those!


23 posted on 07/31/2011 6:50:18 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL
A straight debt ceiling increase might have been better, time will tell

Utter nonsense. We all ready won a major victory here. The last few weeks shows hat without the Tea Party the debt limit increase would have been passed without any attempt to rein in spending

The Tea Party has all ready won simply because the terms of the debate are now changed forever. It is no longer a question of cutting spending, it is now how to do it and how much to do it.

True we did not win a complete annihilating victory but this will be a long war. This is the Tea Party equivalent of Lexington/Concord.

The war on Federal Spending has now started. We are not going to undo 100 years of Progressive politics with a single vote.

24 posted on 07/31/2011 6:50:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: RC one

“we don’t need the whitehouse”

You need to rethink that. Among other things, the White House makes judicial appointments and liberals have long used biased judges in high places to force their politics down the throats of an unwilling public.


25 posted on 07/31/2011 6:50:48 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: RC one

Apparently, we are all worried about the same thing.


26 posted on 07/31/2011 6:50:52 PM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: wilco200

A re-boot won’t cut it. We need a complete system restore.


27 posted on 07/31/2011 6:51:05 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: wilco200

You don’t change 100 years of Progressive politics with a single vote. While the notion of blowing everything up may be emotionally satisfying, it not how the real world works.


28 posted on 07/31/2011 6:52:06 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: pyx

I’m sure I’ll get my underwear torched for saying this... but what do those who are screaming “NO DEAL!” expect? We made great progress in 2010, but the reality is, folks, we don’t have enough influence or control yet to implement the change we need. To be honest with you, I have greater fear over a collapse of our system and the immediate power grab that Zero would implement than I do over making some progress in this battle like we have while keeping the issues in front of the public.

So we call our leaders — tell them “NO”. They comply. The deal falls apart. Are you REALLY welcoming what might follow in the wake?? The reality is Zero and Harry are NEVER EVER EVER going to give us what we really want. The key comes next November...


29 posted on 07/31/2011 6:52:28 PM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: wilco200

>>> Also rush has not had his say yet. Hee hee hee “ <<<

Brilliant! I see no win for the US, but for relief to Obama’s campaign, and NO CUTS but to GROWTH of spending over ten years which is what? One Trillion? The debt ceiling increases the current debt. The arithmetic should have been the driver here but fell to the favor of socialism.


30 posted on 07/31/2011 6:53:03 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Hey boner, the pre will be held accountable in 2012. Until then your job is to put him in a box and deep six anything he wants.

NOW DO Y O U R JOB


31 posted on 07/31/2011 6:54:03 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Imagine how effective Barack Obama will be with a tea party house and a tea party senate. Impeachment is just around the corner if it pans out that way. and, the fact is, out chances of winning the WH remain kind of slim.


32 posted on 07/31/2011 6:54:44 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: pyx
Did you forget what forum you are posting to?

Contrary to what you must think, the members of this site do not arrive here every day riding on the short bus.

33 posted on 07/31/2011 6:55:34 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: SubMareener

They were set to expire anyway. This will be Obozo’s whole campaign, Economy sucks because Bush’s fault. “Vote for the Republican and get more tax breaks for the rich to further weaken our economy and redo the policies that got us here and give the dangerous tea party extremists control of the government so they can throw granny off a cliff and starve the children so that big oil can keep their tax breaks, or vote for me (the One) and we will really soak it to the rich this time”. Unfortunately will an FBI investigation hanging over Murdock’s head and a muzzle around his networks mouth, and an otherwise corrupt media, this strategy is likely to work.


34 posted on 07/31/2011 6:56:37 PM PDT by oldernittany
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To: pyx

>> There is NO debt deal yet

But they’re trying to box-in the House TEA members with the implying threat TEA will be responsible for the debt crisis.


35 posted on 07/31/2011 6:58:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: MNJohnnie

There was no reigning in spending here.

Plus we’ll likely get tax hikes from the Debt Commission “seupercongress”


36 posted on 07/31/2011 6:58:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SubMareener; The Bronze Titan; Kristin

So, primaries will begin before the new ceiling is hit and November National and President election before Bush cuts expire. Good for campaigns next year. ( on both sides)


37 posted on 07/31/2011 6:58:44 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: RC one

RC,

If we ‘cut’ $1 for every $1 that we ‘raise’ the debt, why do we need to raise the $1 to begin with - if we’ve already ‘cut’ the $1......????

If I cut my budget by $1, then that’s $1 LESS that I need to borrow (assuming I am in the red now).


38 posted on 07/31/2011 6:58:48 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan

I read it its light on detail.


39 posted on 07/31/2011 6:58:53 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: pyx
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40 posted on 07/31/2011 6:59:50 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: MNJohnnie

There will be no spending cuts. There will be tax hikes.

That is not a victory.


41 posted on 07/31/2011 7:00:14 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: pyx
Thanks to the busy beavers at the Washington Post, you can pretend you are Timmy Taxes and decide who gets paid first.
42 posted on 07/31/2011 7:00:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: RC one

All this budget talk and not a word about disposing of some gov’t property to the highest approved bidders. Meanwhile Peelosi and her husband are quite wealthy on their own, but don’t worry she and her staff will continue to be paid by us peons, don’t worry.


43 posted on 07/31/2011 7:01:08 PM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: pyx
Obama seeks the PR high ground.

No one in the media will question Obama's assertion that a "deal" has been agreed upon. If it fails at this point, it will be easy to blame those unreasonable Teabagging extremists for reneging on their end of the "deal".

Actually voting on legislation is so last-century anyway, better to "deem" the legislation completed and hog all the credit in advance. If it doesn't actually happen, it's the other party's fault.

44 posted on 07/31/2011 7:01:20 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: mn-bush-man

This fight needs to be fought. If not now, when? If not by us, who?


45 posted on 07/31/2011 7:01:26 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: pyx

from what I can see why pass it...


46 posted on 07/31/2011 7:03:22 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now, and in the future)
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To: pyx

It can’t pass. Government spending increases at 8% per year, GDP is between 0% and 3% per year. NOT SUSTAINABLE!!!!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com

This really pisses me off!


47 posted on 07/31/2011 7:05:07 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Carismar
Greece had no government owned assets. The US government probably has more than $150 trillion in government owned assets ~ ABOVE WATER and that, and maybe more in the national economic zones.

These pukes haven't even begun to talk about the assets ~ the closest they got was "we are not selling the Grand Canyon".

48 posted on 07/31/2011 7:05:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: pyx

It can’t pass. Government spending increases at 8% per year, GDP is between 0% and 3% per year. NOT SUSTAINABLE!!!!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com

This really pisses me off!


49 posted on 07/31/2011 7:07:56 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Carismar
Two years from now on July 31, 2013, I predict the GDP to debt ratio will be at least 120%

I'm pretty sure Obama will have the entire amount obligated before the end of 2012...

He'll be back for more sometime in January, 2013.

Chances are good that he'll have us in a major war before then and if that happens, all bets are off.

50 posted on 07/31/2011 7:10:02 PM PDT by Errant
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