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If gun manufacturers are going to include RFID devices for inventory control, they should be certain to tell customers about the devices and how to remove them.

Even though the devices are meant to only be read from a few inches, the potential for abuse is obvious.

It would only be a small step for the government to require these devices to be permanently attached, and for the range to be increased.

Would everyone be comfortable being required to carry weapons that anyone with the proper devise could detect form a significant distance?

Tactically, it would be a very bad thing. Imagine having to wear a neon sign on your hat that flashes "I have a gun. Model X."

Privacy in personal weapons should be an obvious human right.

1 posted on 07/31/2011 8:02:33 PM PDT by marktwain
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I need to find a handheld RFID detector (I do not say “reader”. Also, I need to check future potential firearm purchases for the names “Chiappa”, “hi-Point”, and “MKS” so that they may be struck from the list.

No, I ain’t mad. I actually appreciate it when people who think ill of me tell me up front rather than stabbing me in the back. Thank you, Chiappa/Hi-Point/MKS for your honest fair dealing. Too bad I won’t be expressing my appreciation in any positive financial way.


2 posted on 07/31/2011 8:12:57 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Freedom is saying "No!" to the Feds, and getting away with it. "Speak 'NO' to Power!")
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If gun manufacturers are going to include RFID devices for inventory control, they should be certain to tell customers about the devices and how to remove them.

Or better yet, stick it on the outside where it's guaranteed everyone will see it and its removal is almost a foregone conclusion (besides the written disclosure on the outside of the box and removal instructions in the manual). Then no will suspect you of doing anything underhanded.

3 posted on 07/31/2011 8:13:49 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Stupid, stupid, stupid. Ridiculing your customer base results in....why yes a reduced customer base. Good luck with that chip. Plant it where the sun doesn't shine; I suppose they'll need a twelve inch probe to read it when the time comes.
4 posted on 07/31/2011 8:15:30 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (((((unite)))))
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Whoever authored this is clearly in the wrong line of work.

Wonder if these folks worked for S&W during that company’s ‘stupid’ era.


5 posted on 07/31/2011 8:16:50 PM PDT by PAR35
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I never heard of these clowns, but I know who they are now. Amazing how any business can think they can be that cute.

It’s like the latest James Bond guy saying he loves gun control - ended any interest that I had in his movies. There are times when it’s better to just keep one’s mouth shut.


6 posted on 07/31/2011 8:19:44 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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Not that I was going to buy any of their stuff anyway...


7 posted on 07/31/2011 8:20:28 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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Sounds like a job for a Tesla Coi... um, chip “reader.” But I ain’t buyin’ their firearms, anyway.


8 posted on 07/31/2011 8:21:15 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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The type of information on the RFID ties in the firearm and proof house verification; the latter is required by the Italian Government for all firearms made in Italy.

Proofing has been required in a number of European countries for several centuries, but not the RFID chip. An ingenious statement.

10 posted on 07/31/2011 8:30:28 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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Someone needs to bring an RFID zapper to market.

Problem solved.


12 posted on 07/31/2011 8:39:48 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Never trust people who want to chip you or your weapon.


16 posted on 07/31/2011 9:14:32 PM PDT by dog breath
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BOTTOM LINE: The Chiappa PASSIVE RFID can be read ONLY when passed within (2-3 inches),,

So now their firearms will no longer have a serial number ?

For my inventory control I can read a serial number from 18" away,,,,, if I have my glasses on.

18 posted on 07/31/2011 11:31:01 PM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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It’s a very stupid idea to place the RFID chip INSIDE the gun grips. In every other application of the chip, it’s usually placed upon (or in) the container the product is placed in for shipment and sale.

In this day and age you cannot believe ANYTHING put out by the government or liberal media without caution.


20 posted on 08/01/2011 5:28:11 AM PDT by DH
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Big deal. 24 hours after a “chipped” gun goes on sale in the US, there will be a video on youtube on how to disable or remove the chip.


21 posted on 08/01/2011 5:42:38 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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As The Firearm Blog points out, a hacker at the DEFCON security conference in Las Vegas was able to boost the signal of his RIFD reader and read a RFID chip on someone 217 feet away. I make that 2604 inches.

When somebody claims "RFID can only be read from inches away", the reality is that, while cheap RFID readers can only read it from inches, that does NOT mean that an RFID reader cannot be constructed that can read it from considerably further.

24 posted on 08/01/2011 11:20:30 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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RFID comes in passive and active configurations. Primarily used to track items. Carriers are using RFID to track weapon load out on a plane. Raeders generally placed at threshold area. Signal strength obviously kept low to avoid HREF.


26 posted on 08/01/2011 12:42:45 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ("God left Africa a long time ago." - LT A. K Waters)
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