Skip to comments.How the Tea Party Won the Deal (The media is setting conservatives up folks, DANGER)
Posted on 08/01/2011 7:49:23 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
While the details of the debt ceiling deal remain fuzzy, this much is clear: Barack Obama may be president, but the Tea Party is now running Washington. How did this happen? Simple; this is what American politics looks like when theres no left-wing movement and no war.
Lets start with the first point. Liberals are furious that President Obama agreed to massive spending cuts, and the promise of more, without any increase in revenues. They should be: Given how much the Bush tax cuts have contributed to the deficit (and how little theyve spurred economic growth), its mind-boggling that theyve apparently escaped this deficit-reduction deal unscathed.
But theres a reason for that: since the economy collapsed in 2008, only one grassroots movement has emerged in response, and its been a movement of the right. Compare that with what happened during the Depression. In 1933, Franklin Roosevelt assumed the presidency and launched the hodgepodge of domestic programs that historians call the first New Deal. By 1935, however, he was looking warily over his left shoulder at Huey Long, whose Share our Wealth movement demanded that incomes be capped at $1 million and every family be guaranteed an income no less than one-third the national average.
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I never bought into the whole Tea Party thing....
Donald Trump: I wouldnt vote for this deal. Trumps Winners, Losers from Debt Debacle - 8-1-2011 on Fox & Friends
I was afraid you might have meant it that way.
My view is that they won something here- though not much.
The bill would have been even worse without them, heck the debt limit would have been raised automatically!
No deal, no debate, business as usual...
I don’t know what more they could have done with their numbers. Even a blank-check ‘clean’ debt ceiling raise could have been passed despite them.
That they’ve come out so well positioned politically, and their enemies not-so-well, is only a bad thing if they lose their message.
When the bubble bursts and it will inevitably, the blame will be dumped on “the Tea Party.”
Anyone who claims to be “Tea Party” better stay away from the phony deal.
I’m really tired of the Left saying conservatives won. Bull. We lost.
There have been several conservative solutions offered, the Rand Paul Budget, the RSC Budget, the one percent solution, etc., etc. Even the Ryan Budget (which didn’t end deficit spending for 25 years) could be called a conservative budget.
If we were to compromise, it should have been on the basis of how long it would take to get a balanced budget, i.e. 1, 5 or 25 years and the amount of front loading. This comprise ensures that even after ten years, we will still be running a massive deficit and go right into economic collapse under the weight of increasing interest payments.
The WaPo article was written by:
-————Matt Miller is a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress-—————
That’s the SOROS FUNDED Center for American Progress. So what’s in it for Friedman and Soros to pimp this ‘americans elect’ group?
This is how the left makes it’s advances. It’s the media. They don’t need to have a big movement on the ground. They have the journalists.
Gay as a goose and gap-toothed, too. What a combination.
And look at the bio of Khalil Byrd, CEO of “America Elect”
Former Deval Patrick campaign manager, public TV promoter, Council on Foreign Relations, etc... Talk about “astroturf!”
There’s a left wing elitist movement - well funded. Very well funded... Every third world hellhole is run by a small cadre of elitists... you must know that right? And they all use the same basic tactics. Same with democrats. The letters of support they get are written for the most part in dem war rooms - using language taken off the internet so the letters sound more authentic. I suspect Free Republic is use for this purpose...
Most dem victim groups ( the people who vote for them ) are being paid - either with welfare checks, disability checks, ‘community’ outreach programs, fake ‘jobs’ bull etc. The only dem supporters not on the direct take are the elites and union workers. And I can make a case for union worker elites being on the take...
Ask yourself - WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW A LARGE LIBERAL DEMONSTRATION? They have some small ones - but there are always buses parked somewhere - as their people are bussed in with free lunches, instructions NOT to talk to the press, and some walkin’ around money in their pockets. Dems even advertise for their ‘protestors’ - looking for college student types.
If dems had a demonstration without paying people, or busing them in, or twisting the arms of union guys who are owned - no one would show up. They have almost no support.
When this debt deal runs out in two years, our privately held national debt will be 9.4+2.5= $11.9T. Assuming there is 2% GDP growth between now and then, our Debt to GDP ratio will be 11.9/14.8= 80%. Economies start to permanently fail when it goes over 90%. If we have a recession (likely) or Obama is reelected (unlikely), with this plan, our economy will start a death spiral.
I appreciate the note of optimism but I don’t think moral victories are enough.
Well, except for one thing. We’re on to them. All of them.
Just where do you think we would have been in this deal had it not been for the Tea Party people? It would have been business as usual with more debt & kicking the can down the hill. This (R) party w/o the Tea party is virtually one in the same as the (D)s.
Well, anyone who says all politicians are lying crooks is all right in my book...
Almost all of the so-called “Tea Party” Republicans voted to borrow and spend an additional $2.4 TRILLION, just like their party’s leadership told them ON THEIR FIRST DAY ON THE HILL, in no uncertain terms, that they must do.
So, tell me, how was this NOT “business as usual”? Tell me, how is the Republican Party different than the Democrats?
Both legs of the socialist beast, the Dems and the GOP, made it obvious from the first that they had two primary goals in this: 1) Get their hands on several TRILLION more dollars to spend, and 2) Get everyone the political cover they need for the next election.
They’ve got what they were after.
Although the last part may not be as easy as they think, out of touch with the real world as they are.
We are at the crossroads for all Americans in the next election....Either you support this 60’s radical crap classroom socialism or you toss these jackasses out and save the country. If I hear one person say he’s undecided in the next election, I’m going to knock his teeth out!
if the tea party won the reporter wouldn’t have a salary to make his lies.
Meanwhile, the Tea Partys dream of a government reduced to its pre-welfare state size becomes ever real....
pre welfare state....? pre get govenments hand out of my wallet you mean?....
The US owes 14.3 trillion, headed for 25 trillion, and this scribe thinks less than 3 trillion in cuts is "massive"? I guess this is liberal math.
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