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FOX NEWS: Tax Hikes 'Impossible' Under Debt Deal? Think Again ( Debt deal is indeed a BIG TAX HIKE!)
FoxNews ^ | August 01, 2011 3:20PM Eastern | Staff

Posted on 08/01/2011 11:06:13 AM PDT by Kevin in California

Edited on 08/01/2011 12:52:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Just reported that in this debt deal is indeed a BIG TAX HIKE!

This is breaking....:

Tax Hikes 'Impossible' Under Debt Deal? Think Again ...

Published August 01, 2011

| FoxNews.com

The debt-ceiling deal moving toward a vote in Congress could easily pave the way for tax increases despite Republican claims that tax hikes are "impossible" under a deal struck with the White House to reduce spending in exchange for a debt-limit increase. 

But as everyone knows, "impossible" isn't really in Washington's vocabulary.

Here's how it could happen:

After Congress enacts more than $900 billion in spending cuts to give President Obama a $900 billion lift in the nation's $14.3 trillion debt ceiling, a bipartisan committee will be formed to find roughly $1.5 trillion in additional deficit savings over the next decade. 

To get there, the committee is free to look at virtually anything -- including "revenue" -- even though House Speaker John Boehner said Sunday night that current budgeting guidelines make it "impossible" for the 12-member group to approve tax hikes. 

Other officials and analysts beg to differ. 

"The suggestion that it is impossible for the joint committee to raise tax revenue simply is not accurate, it's false," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Monday. 

Tea Party-aligned Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, said that's one of the concerns stopping him from supporting the deal. 

"Certainly, tax increases could be something that we could face," Lee told Fox News. 

Boehner is able to claim no tax hikes are possible because the committee would work off the assumption that the Bush tax cuts -- all of them -- will expire in 2013. Combined with other expiring provisions, that adds up to $3.5 trillion in tax hikes over the next decade, without the committee taking any action

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To: pabianice

Not in the bill. It was announced by Kathleen Sebelius, the Secretary of Health and Human Services. I think it’s a new regulation.


121 posted on 08/01/2011 11:45:50 AM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: Kevin in California; longtermmemmory; All

I think I stated that incorrectly, in my rush to answer the doorbell.

I think it’s that the

EXTENSION

of the Bush tax cuts represents a loss to the govt — Something like $5 trillion — and for which this ‘loss’ must be then treated with added taxes indeed.

That’s what’s so despicable about these purposely confusing, confounding mathematical theatrics and gymnastics. Then add the lying and spin to that.

TERM LIMITS for ALL OF ‘EM !!!


122 posted on 08/01/2011 11:45:54 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: All

Apparently this REALLY IS a well disguised tax hike.

No one not familiar with the way Washington “works” would be able to spot it, but the key is that it uses the existing tax laws as the base. The Bush tax hikes expire at the end of 2012, and this makes sure they do, in fact expire.

In other words, since Obama will be the President at the end of 2012, and until January 20th, 2013, he will be the President at the time this would kick into effect even if he is not re-elected. He would certainly veto any attempt to repeal this.

The only way to stop the tax hike would be to retroactively repeal the hike after the new President and Congress was sworn in. If the dems retain 41 seats or more in the Senate, which is likely, they would be able to block any repeal.

It also messes with the AMT, making it much worse. I haven’t had time to get the details on that.

In other words, this thing raises taxes A LOT. It is, indeed, a very clever trap.


123 posted on 08/01/2011 11:46:10 AM PDT by EternalHope (You can't make a deal with the Devil, or reach across the aisle to Obama.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

The Bush tax cuts expire in 2012. Not extending them is NOT considered a tax increase/new tax.


124 posted on 08/01/2011 11:46:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: KarlInOhio

Obama wants the Bush tax cuts to expire...and says he will veto any bill that trys to reinstate that....course he needs to get reelected....


125 posted on 08/01/2011 11:46:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: what's up

I posted what Fox has on THEIR site, Verne.


126 posted on 08/01/2011 11:47:23 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

(I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)

FANTASTIC!


127 posted on 08/01/2011 11:47:58 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: Hoodat

FoxNews has just learned what Freepers figured out 15 hours ago.
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not all FReepers.
some have been busy for the past 2 days, saying what a great victory this bill is, and what a great job Boehner did, and that we should be happy with what we can get now, and wait for 2012 for more.
When the Washington Post writes it’s a great victory for the GOP, and a loss for Reid and Obama...
i’d go back and check the fine print.


128 posted on 08/01/2011 11:48:13 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: humblegunner

Here is an idea for you - start a forum, and appoint yourself “chief posting scrutinizer.”

You can ban everyone that links to a blog or posts anything you think does not belong. It will be loads of fun for you.


129 posted on 08/01/2011 11:48:29 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Kevin in California

Why isn’t on the Fox News homepage?


130 posted on 08/01/2011 11:48:37 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: pabianice
The free birth control has nothing whatsoever to do with this bill. That is a separate issue that HHS announced this morning.

Medicare payments are not cut as a result of this bill. That only goes into effect if the committee cannot deliver other cuts by the end of the year. Dems are not going to let that happen.

131 posted on 08/01/2011 11:49:21 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Perdogg
Why isn’t on the Fox News homepage?

Because this post is bogus ...
132 posted on 08/01/2011 11:49:47 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: KarlInOhio; Kevin in California
Obama wants the Bush tax cuts to expire...and says he will veto any bill that trys to reinstate that....course he needs to get reelected....

They were talking about this last night....on Fox I believe....

133 posted on 08/01/2011 11:50:22 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: 101voodoo

No, but the supercongress can recommend tax hikes and this deal says Congress HAS to vote for them or AUTOMATICALLY get defense cut.

The GOP would be voted to be blackmailed.

The GOP is going lose if it does and doesn’t when that happens.

This bill is a set up.


134 posted on 08/01/2011 11:51:03 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: STARWISE
Don't you read what you post from other sites?

Plouffe is quoted as a source. You really believe Obama's campaign guy?

135 posted on 08/01/2011 11:51:54 AM PDT by what's up
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To: sanjuanbob

What happened to Boehner’s promise that a bill will be online for 72 hours before it is voted on for passage? Our rating is going to be downgraded anyway, so what the heck is the rush to pass this turkey without letting the people read it?


136 posted on 08/01/2011 11:52:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Scythian

Why is this being treated as a real news story?


137 posted on 08/01/2011 11:52:02 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Kevin in California

138 posted on 08/01/2011 11:52:15 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Triple
Here is an idea for you -

I have an idea for you, too.. but I'd best not post it here.

You apparently think scrutiny is a bad thing. Nobody should mention things they see as wrong.

I see things differently.

So sorry.

139 posted on 08/01/2011 11:52:36 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: what's up

If the deal is based on a baseline that assumes the expiration of the Bush cuts, then Mr. Boehner’s claimed deficit reduction is hugely exaggerated (and not for the first time) because a lot of the deficit reduction is provided by the expected increase in revenues due to the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. That is my understanding — if anyone has a different understanding, please post it, because right now this deal looks like a dog to me.


140 posted on 08/01/2011 11:53:10 AM PDT by Stingray51
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