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Live Thread: Congressional Vote on the Budget Fiasco
US Congress ^ | 8/1/11 | FedGov

Posted on 08/01/2011 11:18:29 AM PDT by central_va

Lawmakers split into Democratic and Republicans camps to hear appeals from their party leaders to approve the deal which emerged from feverish negotiations as the clock ticked toward a Tuesday deadline to raise the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling. Party leaders are hoping for sizable majorities in order to give the deal credibility.


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Ok, these bozos(Tea Party excluded) are probably going to vote for this monstrosity today. I thought a live thread might be helpful even though the Congressional Website has no information(as usual) on what time the actual vote might be.
1 posted on 08/01/2011 11:18:33 AM PDT by central_va
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To: central_va

Here is the current Whip Count according to The Hill

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/174649-whip-count-house-leaders-seek-votes-to-pass-debt-limit-deal


2 posted on 08/01/2011 11:24:28 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: central_va

outrage.


3 posted on 08/01/2011 11:24:35 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: central_va

Anyone have a link to the content of the bill? Weren't We the People promised to have access to the text of all bills two weeks prior to their vote in Congress? (Something about "the most transparent and open administration" in history ...) I know the ink hasn't dried on this one yet as it's only just been thrown together over the weekend. But I'd still like to read it.


4 posted on 08/01/2011 11:25:24 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: central_va

Thank you VA. From NC.


5 posted on 08/01/2011 11:26:53 AM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: central_va
I can't believe the GOP didn't even try to remove the 1 trillion per year in "stimulus" money from the baseline.

Or defund socialized medicine.

Looks like they've accepted both - it'd be 'extremist' not to.

6 posted on 08/01/2011 11:29:11 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: famousdayandyear

They’re drafting it right now. They want a bipartisan vote to give it credibility. Virtually every major domestic policy milestone in America that lasted was passed with votes from both parties.


7 posted on 08/01/2011 11:30:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: central_va

I fired off an e mail to my rep candice miller ( my second email on this subject ) and begged her to vote no on this monstrosity....


8 posted on 08/01/2011 11:30:11 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone

If you have a debt reduction plan, feel free to put it on the table. Congressional leaders don’t have the luxury of being ideologically pure. They have to talk to people with views different from them. In a democracy, no one is going to get everything they want. That’s just the reality of life. Americans are going to wait and see what this deal does. If they don’t like what happens, they can vote their congresscritters out of office next year. But at least now we have a debate, not on whether to spend more but on what to cut. I like where conservatives are now.


9 posted on 08/01/2011 11:34:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

At least they could have reduced the debt a little. This seems to only increase the spending slightly less.


10 posted on 08/01/2011 11:40:56 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: joe fonebone

I just called and got through to my rep who’s undecided...a Tea Partier.


11 posted on 08/01/2011 11:43:46 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: goldstategop

This isn’t a democracy. I vote for a representative to do just that. I expect mine to cut spending and not allow any tax increases. I don’t give a damn if my reps are popular on capital hill or if this stinker of a bill passes or if we have a bill by tomorrow. The bond market doesn’t give a crap about our debt ceiling - they want to see adults managing the financial affairs of the US. That means hard decisions to cut spending and standing up to the debt drunk progressive “esteemed collegues”.


12 posted on 08/01/2011 11:49:14 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: goldstategop

Have no idea what you are trying to say to my post. This POS legislation will ultimately ruin our military and bring about tax increases when the “SuperGov” takes over.


13 posted on 08/01/2011 12:00:47 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: goldstategop

This is NOT a democracy—it is (was?) a Republic.


14 posted on 08/01/2011 12:07:53 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: MNJohnnie

Boehner must be having a problem getting the needed votes. He was supposed to have a presser about 30 min. ago and is late!

Pelosi telling the Dems to vote their conscience. Not pushing Dems for a yes vote.


15 posted on 08/01/2011 12:08:36 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: joe fonebone

I did the same for my rep. Many are undecided..please everyone should fire off an email or make a phone call.


16 posted on 08/01/2011 12:09:42 PM PDT by alamogal
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To: Red_Devil 232
Pelosi telling the Dems to vote their conscience.

She is so funny. Who knew they had any?

17 posted on 08/01/2011 12:11:25 PM PDT by Faith
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To: so_real

The bill can be read here

http://rules.house.gov/Media/file/PDF_112_1/Floor_Text/DEBT_016_xml.pdf


18 posted on 08/01/2011 12:11:29 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
"Pelosi telling the Dems to vote their conscience. Not pushing Dems for a yes vote."

Ah, so the fix *is* in.

Saw some 'somebody' on the news the other day and he almost choked on the words, "The U.S. will not default on it's debt." At the time I thought, "Uh oh, what does that mean?"

19 posted on 08/01/2011 12:13:27 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: All

do we have a definite no and yes head count?

I think the politicians are jockying for the covited spots where they can vote no for easy PR cover.


20 posted on 08/01/2011 12:16:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thank you ... reading it now!


21 posted on 08/01/2011 12:17:04 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: goldstategop
"If you have a debt reduction plan, feel free to put it on the table."
I did that in my first email to her....pakistan just kicked us out of our military bases there, and we just sent them 7 billion....defund npr, endowment of the arts, eliminate atf and roll the field agents into the fbi, 10% cuts across the board to EVERY department....that is my plan, what is yours????
22 posted on 08/01/2011 12:25:48 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: central_va

Just called Marsha Blackburn’s office, and they said she is still reading it and is undecided. Told her I hate it.... politely, but firmly.


23 posted on 08/01/2011 12:27:38 PM PDT by Grammy
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To: so_real

Good luck.


24 posted on 08/01/2011 12:30:40 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: joe fonebone

10% real cuts? Don’t forget the baseline...


25 posted on 08/01/2011 12:34:32 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: Ingtar

What are they chanting from the gallery? ANyone know?


26 posted on 08/01/2011 12:35:36 PM PDT by Chandalier (Obama is a Chicken Hawk!)
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To: central_va

My gut says they won’t vote today.


27 posted on 08/01/2011 12:40:46 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Gator113

HAHAHA! Maxine Waters up!


28 posted on 08/01/2011 12:42:52 PM PDT by Chandalier (Obama is a Chicken Hawk!)
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To: Ingtar

screw the baseline...no more accounting tricks...take how much we spent last year and multiply it by .9 and there is your budget...takes about 15 seconds to do....really


29 posted on 08/01/2011 12:43:36 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone

You did account for killing the baseline then... good.


30 posted on 08/01/2011 12:44:49 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: central_va
An informal FR Working Group: US Budget Plan FY-2012 - Link below...

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31 posted on 08/01/2011 1:05:32 PM PDT by Golden Gate
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To: central_va

We HAVE a mechanism to control the National Debt.

It’s call the Debt Ceiling.

USE IT!

Don’t increase it! LOWER IT!

All of the plans that have been considered so far are nothing but smoke and mirrors to mask the fact that the BEST of these plans still allows the debt to increase by about 1 Trillion per year!

All of these lying politicians need to be swinging from lamp posts...


32 posted on 08/01/2011 1:09:44 PM PDT by EasySt (2012... Sometimes you have to flush twice.)
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To: central_va

Call your Congress Critter NOW!

http://www.contactingthecongress.org/


33 posted on 08/01/2011 1:11:04 PM PDT by WVKayaker (The GOP needs to live the planks of its platform, not just offer lip service. -Sarah Palin 8/2008)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Tell me about it :
16 (2) Strike subsections (b) and (e) and redesig-
17 nate subsections (c) and (d) as subsections (b) and
18 (c), respectively.
Seriously? This is what the Founders envisioned when specifying legislation should be fully comprehensible to the common man? I don't think so.


34 posted on 08/01/2011 1:16:11 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

bump


35 posted on 08/01/2011 2:02:50 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Grammy
Just called Marsha Blackburn’s office, and they said she is still reading it and is undecided.

I'm just impressed that someone is actually reading it before deciding on a vote.

36 posted on 08/01/2011 2:09:44 PM PDT by Faith
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