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We The Stupid
American Thinker ^ | August 1, 2011 | Ann Barnhardt

Posted on 08/01/2011 3:36:09 PM PDT by hiram569

I stand here in abject stupefaction. The so-called "right" or "Tea Party" in this republic is being so thoroughly rolled and defeated that I am struggling to come up with an adequate violent submission metaphor that does not involve prison rape . . . and they honesty think that they're "winning." Really? You call this winning? - Obama gets over $2 Trillion to spend before the 2012 election - There are no real spending cuts - There is a massive tax increase effective January 1, 2013...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: annbarnhardt; barnhardt; boehner; debt; debtdeal; debtdealcavein; obama

1 posted on 08/01/2011 3:36:11 PM PDT by hiram569
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To: hiram569

You are late to the party. I hope at least you brought some rope.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2757109/posts


2 posted on 08/01/2011 3:40:38 PM PDT by waterhill (Little 'r' republican: taker of the Founder's 'Red Pill'...www.mikechurch.com)
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To: hiram569

It`s not jail rape, it`s being slipped GHB in your drink at a night club as you`re being dazzled by the flashing lights, disco balls and the sweet talker in your ear.

YES, IT`S YOUR FAULT YOU GOT DRUGGED AND DATE RAPED!

Stupid rookie GOPers. Err, GOP/RINOS now.

You`ve been bought and paid for now. You`re nothing but ex-virgins now tossed in with the rest of the whores.

How`s that, enough?


3 posted on 08/01/2011 3:42:51 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: hiram569

Conservatives/Republicans have been compromising our way to total collapse for decades. That’s what happens when you only play offense. The Democrats want way bigger government. Our side says NO. We compromise for a not so gigantic increase. But an increase nonetheless. The next day D.C. moves on to another issue and the same process of compromise takes place.
When good compromises with evil evil wins. And when evil compromises with good evil wins.
The game is coming to an end. Thanks, “conservatives”. Thanks Republicans.


4 posted on 08/01/2011 3:44:07 PM PDT by all the best
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To: hiram569
Not much different than the 1995, 1996 budget "compromise" under Bubba.

We need the house and the senate and the whitehouse.

5 posted on 08/01/2011 3:49:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: hiram569

The hysteria is hysterical . Rep Paul Ryan was on local radio this afternoon. I will take his guidance and not have my head explode like so many others on FR.


6 posted on 08/01/2011 3:50:10 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: hiram569

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/30/voters-blamed-gop-for-1995-shutdown_n_842769.html


7 posted on 08/01/2011 3:52:24 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: UB355

Most Americans no longer have any confidence or trust in government left.

The U.S. Government has become an oligarchy, run by super wealthy insiders, and the well connected.

Those capable of critical thought, understand this charade in D.C. is a choreographed, good cop, bad cop sham.

Government continues to grow, spends more and becomes more controlling.

We are no longer represented.

It’s becoming inordinately clear, the solutions for government won’t be solved by traditional means.


8 posted on 08/01/2011 3:52:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Some of what you speak of is true I agree . Congressman Paul Ryan is among a small handful of those I trust.


9 posted on 08/01/2011 3:56:50 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Sacajaweau

How’d having all three work out for us in the early oo’s? As I recall we still grew govt and expanded entitlements and increased regulation.


10 posted on 08/01/2011 3:59:03 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: hiram569

I don’t understand the caterwauling about the Bush tax cuts expiring in 2013 being a basis for opposing the debt deal. That massive tax increase in 2013 only happens if we lose the 2012 election.


11 posted on 08/01/2011 4:00:32 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: sam_whiskey

Oops...you know what? I’m wrong. And now I’m also very depressed...


12 posted on 08/01/2011 4:11:07 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: dragnet2

You got that right.


13 posted on 08/01/2011 4:18:50 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: sam_whiskey

The next Congress can do anything they want to. Its up to us to primary or defeat the current one!


14 posted on 08/01/2011 4:22:53 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: hiram569

The American people love to delude themselves.


15 posted on 08/01/2011 4:27:12 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Sacajaweau

Won’t change a thing.


16 posted on 08/01/2011 4:28:01 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: sam_whiskey

Increasing out debt by 2 Trillion is a tax, it is called inflation.


17 posted on 08/01/2011 4:28:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: UB355
What do you think of the linked opinion piece? I think the salient point that the author makes is that Obama gets two trillion dollars to spend before 1/1/2013 and does not have good intentions for that money, and secondly...where is that money going to come from?

WE don't have two trillion dollars to lay out, and we aren't going to be borrowing it from anyone.

The author stated: "We are in the midst of the largest currency debasement ever seen in human history.

Personally, this has been my opinion of every action since TARP. Do you think the consequences of abusing the monetary system in this fashion are outweighed by the alternative of real fiscal actions involving reducing spending?

18 posted on 08/01/2011 4:30:44 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: dragnet2

The U.S. Government has become an oligarchy, run by super wealthy insiders, and the well connected.

Exactly.

19 posted on 08/01/2011 4:43:02 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Sacajaweau; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; LucyT; Impy; InterceptPoint; randita; theothercheek; ...
So the voters blamed the GOP for the 1995 government shutdown. That doesn't mean that they would blame the GOP this time around, if House Republicans had not knuckled under and seemingly settled for next to nothing on spending cuts in exchange for raising the national debt again. No, they just wimped out because they feared the MSM.

The House Republican leadership has failed the majority of the voters who put them into power. It needs a serious shakeup. Any congressional Republican who votes for this inadequate bill that does not address the debt problem should be challenged by a legitimate "deficit hawk" in GOP primaries next year.

20 posted on 08/01/2011 5:26:18 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: UB355

Ok, I didn’t hear what Ryan said. I’d be interested in knowing how another chance to decrease trillions in debt has evaporated and also enables Obama to use more of the Fed’s monopoly money (that we will eventually have to pay back) to buy votes so he can do this for at least 4 more years?

The entire thing seems insane to me. How can this possibly make sense? I like Ryan - what am I not understanding?


21 posted on 08/01/2011 5:51:07 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: justiceseeker93; Sacajaweau; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; LucyT; Impy; InterceptPoint; randita; ...

I want a list of SO-CALLED Tea Party critters who voted for this!!


22 posted on 08/01/2011 5:53:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: hiram569
The Obama regime is not a failure. The Obama regime is not incompetent. The Obama regime has achieved more in two and a half years than anyone could have possibly foreseen. It has debased the currency by 50% of the GDP and guaranteed that our economy will collapse. It has looted the Treasury for more than the size of a top-ten economy and embezzled that wealth into the hands of their fellow Marxists in preparation for the final collapse of the United States. It has ground the economy of the United States to a screeching halt. It has destabilized the entire Muslim world and ensured that there will be a nuclear war centered around Israel within the decade.

Hillary's machine has continued with the game plan despite dumping Hillary.

As she has undoubtedly pointed out to them, however, they can't hold their gains without her. Obama's a figurehead, and their plan now has no center - only a bunch of squabbling demons throwing acolytes at each other. Without the one ring to bind them, they are lost.

Yet The Bitch is permanently toxic. LOL!

----.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

- Yeats

23 posted on 08/01/2011 6:05:59 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


24 posted on 08/01/2011 6:32:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: omega4179

I agree


25 posted on 08/01/2011 7:13:07 PM PDT by Dianer0839 (King Aragon says, Hobbits bow to NO-ONE)
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To: omega4179

I agree


26 posted on 08/01/2011 7:13:07 PM PDT by Dianer0839 (King Aragon says, Hobbits bow to NO-ONE)
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To: justiceseeker93

I don’t think it turned out that badly. The deal is far from perfect, but we got more of what we wanted than anyone had expected (the TEA Party gets a lot of credit for that, even though they mostly oppose the final product).


27 posted on 08/01/2011 7:22:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: hiram569; AZ .44 MAG; Safrguns; repubmom; Hotlanta Mike; nikos1121; YellowRoseofTx; Dustbunny; ...

OT Ping


28 posted on 08/01/2011 7:45:24 PM PDT by null and void (Day 921. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: hiram569
Let's get real, here. At the most, we affedcte part of the House, a smidgin of the 1/3 of the Senate up for reelection.

This isn't going to be over in a week, I figure it will take a decade.

WHile I and others had hoped for enough steadfast votes to be obstructionist--that's right, to stop the tax and spend juggernaut, to throw a monkey wrench into the works--I and others who are realistic about this know that getting that done in only one election is a dream.

We're in this for a long fight.

This mess has been the reslut of fifty plus years of people giving in incrementally, and getting it all back in one fell swoop (short of showing up in DC by the millions with torches and pitchforks) just isn't going to happen.

We actually hope to avoid violence if possible.

There is another election coming up, and if 50% of the TEA party favored candidates don't get Beltway fever and turn on their electorates, we will have succeeded in electing another crop of principled people to help turn the tide.

It won't be done in one election, or even two, it will take time.

The last election was not the end, nor even the end of the beginning, it was a beginning, and nothing more.

So, all hope and dreams aside, we are not sniveling liberals and we are no strangers to hard work.

We are not defeated, we have only just begun to fight.

29 posted on 08/02/2011 12:31:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Sacajaweau
We need the house and the senate and the whitehouse.

Yes, we do.

30 posted on 08/02/2011 12:34:13 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: justiceseeker93
The House Republican leadership has failed the majority of the voters who put them into power. It needs a serious shakeup. Any congressional Republican who votes for this inadequate bill that does not address the debt problem should be challenged by a legitimate "deficit hawk" in GOP primaries next year.

Precisely.

31 posted on 08/02/2011 12:36:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

>> This isn’t going to be over in a week, I figure it will take a decade.

>> We’re in this for a long fight.

I’m thinking 15-20.


32 posted on 08/02/2011 1:30:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; justiceseeker93; sickoflibs; thouworm

Let’s not panic guys-——remember that all spending originates in the House (now under Repub control). This monstrosity of a bill is just a template——Repubs can add or subtract anything they damn well please.

Ohaha knows this-—that’s why he’s in hiding-—frantically trying to think up an explanation (as the Independents he desperately needs for reelection run for the hills).

Ohaha knows he’s in deep deep doo-doo.


33 posted on 08/02/2011 6:57:59 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Liz; stephenjohnbanker; justiceseeker93; thouworm
RE :"Let’s not panic guys-——remember that all spending originates in the House (now under Repub control). This monstrosity of a bill is just a template——Repubs can add or subtract anything they damn well please"

I dont know if this is true but a post last night claimed that this bill automatically passed the Fy12 budget for next year through deem and pass. I dont know how this could work unless it's year long CR.

Alternatively another budget fight would come up with the new spending cap levels ~ $10B of cuts (???) for FY12 which starts Oct 1.

If any of you see anything on this let me know.

34 posted on 08/02/2011 7:05:00 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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FOX NATION: At one point in the negotiations, the 2012 budget was to be slashed by $36 billion. The final number of cuts: just $7 billion. And just to ensure we don’t have another bruising government shutdown fight over cuts in September, the deal deems and passes the 2012 budget---sometimes called the Slaughter Solution.

The Constitution gives Congress the power to set their own internal rules.

What’s deem and pass? It’s a legislative trick that essentially means that Congress will consider the budget passed without ever actually having to vote on it. The Senate, which has not passed a budget resolution in two years, will be “deemed” to have passed a budget resolution for this year and next year.

IOW, for the purpose of budget points of order on the Senate floor, it will be as if the Senate had done a budget resolution. This will apply to both FY12 (this year) and FY13 (next year), meaning there will be no pressure for the Senate to consider a budget resolution on the floor before 2013.

I'm sure we are in for more surprises----heck, I would not be surprised if Pubbies used the same tactic Ohaha used to jam O'Care down our throats. ROTFL.

THIS MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD---HOW DESPERATE CAN HE BE? Representative Chaka Fattah Democratic progressive told CNN host that it’s all good about the US debt ceiling deal. He stated that it will allow progressives to spend up to $50 TRILLION over 10 years.

"$50 TRILLION should get me reelected."

35 posted on 08/02/2011 7:43:30 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Liz

” Ohaha knows he’s in deep deep doo-doo.”

Unfortunately, so are we.


36 posted on 08/02/2011 7:46:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Liz; stephenjohnbanker; justiceseeker93; thouworm; Condor51; CutePuppy

That is the post I saw last night and may have pinged you with, but how could they pass those next two budgets in the deem and pass of this debt bill unless it says they are two FYs of CRs from that FY11 budget they passed a few months ago??

I dont see anything on the internet about it either.


37 posted on 08/02/2011 7:58:39 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Liz
Representative Chaka Fattah Democratic progressive told CNN host that it’s all good about the US debt ceiling deal. He stated that it will allow progressives to spend up to $50 TRILLION over 10 years.
I checked into him and it's no wonder he's an imbecile and dolt.

He's from Philly.

38 posted on 08/02/2011 8:37:21 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: hiram569
Courtesy of Jim Sinclair:


39 posted on 08/02/2011 8:49:42 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: hiram569; LucyT; All

HOORAY Ann Barnhardt! Ann Barnhardt for President!

(Thanks for the FReepmail and link to another thread...or I would have missed this one, LucyT)

GREAT thread BUMP!


40 posted on 08/05/2011 12:01:42 PM PDT by PGalt
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