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UN Calls for Suspension of Giant Hydroelectric Dam in Ethiopia
OilPrice.com ^ | Sunday, 31 July 2011 05:24 | Charles Kennedy

Posted on 08/01/2011 7:33:07 PM PDT by _a_0_0_

The United Nations has come out in support of critics of Ethiopia's massive Gibe III hydropower project, calling for work to be suspended until the negative impacts of the dam can be assessed.

The UN World Heritage Committee, which establishes sites to be listed as being of special cultural or physical significance, said the Gibe III dam's construction endangered the existence of Lake Turkana, the largest desert lake in the world.

In 1997 Lake Turkana, which straddles the Kenya-Ethiopian border, was listed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

The Gibe III dam is being built by Italy’s Salini Construction company, and a Chinese state-owned bank has approved funding for the project, Kenya's The Daily Nation newspaper reported.

Both Ethiopia and China, as members of the World Heritage Committee, were asked to fulfill their responsibilities for the protection of the site.

Ethiopia's Prime Minister Meles Zenawi defended the decision to expand dam projects and scathingly denounced the project’s critics, saying, "The views of western critics are ironic as Ethiopian facilities are infinitely more environmentally and socially responsible than the projects in their countries, past and present," adding that those who were advocating against hydropower electricity generation were condemning Africa and its people to remain in extreme poverty before concluding, "They are concerned about butterflies' lives, but not human diseases."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: globalists; heritagesites; un

1 posted on 08/01/2011 7:33:10 PM PDT by _a_0_0_
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To: _a_0_0_

First ban DDT and millions die, now ban power so a poor country cant progress with abundant energy.

Sure seems like the UN hates black people.


2 posted on 08/01/2011 7:36:34 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: _a_0_0_

... and Rachel Carson and DDT ... save the birdies but kill the kids. He nailed it with a side slap to the EPA I think.


3 posted on 08/01/2011 7:36:41 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: _a_0_0_
construction endangered the existence of Lake Turkana, the largest desert lake in the world.

I've heard everything. A dam threatens the existence of a lake?

4 posted on 08/01/2011 7:37:24 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: _a_0_0_
calling for work to be suspended until the negative impacts of the dam can be assessed.

Vs the negative impacts of being forced to live without electricity, running water, sanitation, irrigation.....
5 posted on 08/01/2011 7:38:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: _a_0_0_

my god, look at what the liberals are doing now...we have genuinely exported liberalism...


6 posted on 08/01/2011 7:38:25 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon

Egypt fears it won’t get the same amount of water
as before. The British set the amount of water that Egypt would get from the Nile, back when they ruled both Egypt and the Sudan. Ethiopia had no input in the decision.

Now Ethiopia wants/needs the dam for electrical power;
and both Egypt and Sudan oppose giving up any of “their” share of the Nile.


7 posted on 08/01/2011 7:40:14 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: CondorFlight

Ethiopia is one of if not the single oldest continuously Christian country in the world. They need to suffer.


8 posted on 08/01/2011 7:42:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: _a_0_0_

First to say it...Welcome to FR!


9 posted on 08/01/2011 7:42:26 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: _a_0_0_

Never stopped FDR’s TVA from destroying MY ‘heritage’.....thousands of acres of my G-Grandfather’s land went under water.


10 posted on 08/01/2011 7:44:11 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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To: _a_0_0_
The United Nations has come out in support of critics of Ethiopia's massive Gibe III hydropower project, calling for work to be suspended until the negative impacts of the dam can be assessed.

Well, one negative impact is that an impoverished country will be more able to pull itself out of poverty, reducing the ability of agencies like the UN to jerk them around at will.

11 posted on 08/01/2011 7:45:33 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: CondorFlight

“Egypt fears it won’t get the same amount of water
as before. The British set the amount of water that Egypt would get from the Nile, back when they ruled both Egypt and the Sudan. Ethiopia had no input in the decision.

Now Ethiopia wants/needs the dam for electrical power;
and both Egypt and Sudan oppose giving up any of “their” share of the Nile.”

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Wiki says Lake Turkana is not part of the Nile watershed. Three rivers: the Omo, Turkwel and Kerio flow into it and there the water evaporates. I believe the dam in question is to be on the Omo river which enters on the Ethiopian side.

If the Omo is damned up maybe the lake will go the way of the Aral Sea.


12 posted on 08/01/2011 7:59:37 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: _a_0_0_

Will the Etheopians sell water to their neighbors? Water could become the next oil.


13 posted on 08/01/2011 7:59:55 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: _a_0_0_
...adding that those who were advocating against hydropower electricity generation were condemning Africa and its people to remain in extreme poverty before concluding, "They are concerned about butterflies' lives, but not human diseases."

He understands libs and tree huggers very well.

14 posted on 08/01/2011 8:02:14 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: _a_0_0_
...adding that those who were advocating against hydropower electricity generation were condemning Africa and its people to remain in extreme poverty before concluding, "They are concerned about butterflies' lives, but not human diseases."

He understands libs and tree huggers very well.

15 posted on 08/01/2011 8:02:14 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


16 posted on 08/01/2011 8:02:52 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Migraine

If the lake is downstream from the dam, sure.


17 posted on 08/01/2011 8:05:16 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: JRios1968

Yep, Africa would be a perfect wilderness for the ecotourists if it wasn’t for all of those darn, pesky Africans living there. Wouldn’t be so bad if they would just live in mud huts and pose for photos, but now they electricity. Next thing they will want cars and air conditioners, and the whole place will be ruined. Damned people.


18 posted on 08/01/2011 8:11:21 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Maybe not. The Answan Dam has been an ecological disaster.


19 posted on 08/01/2011 8:11:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Hugin

Libs and treehuggers are perfectly fine with leaving others in poverty...


20 posted on 08/01/2011 8:14:36 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Migraine

Lake Turkana is one of those desert lakes with no outlet. Think of the Dead Sea or the Great Salt Lake. The Omo River from Ethiopia flows into the northern end of the lake and supplies about 85% of the lake’s water while the Kerio and Turkwel flow into the southern end and supply about 10%. THe remainder is from small streams and rainfall.

When I lived in Kenya I remember Ferguson’s Gulf, on the western shore about 1/3 up the length of the lake, dried up due to lack of rainfall in the lake’s drainage basin.

Here is further info.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/59313287/Turkana-Project-R-Banut


21 posted on 08/01/2011 8:18:53 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know.)
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To: sinanju
If the Omo is damned up maybe the lake will go the way of the Aral Sea.

It's not physically possible. All the water that comes into the hydro plant leaves the plant. What would they do with so much extra water otherwise?

The hydro plant simply collects some of the potential energy of the water. River sources are high, river deltas are low - that's why the water flows. Water is heavy. There is plenty of energy in all that water that it loses as it descends. That energy converts into heat, essentially, and heat is the last thing you want in a desert lake (it facilitates evaporation.)

A dam collects some of the water, allowing it to gather and rise back to some level. Then the water is taken from upper levels of the dam and fed downstream through a turbine which cools the water and produces electric energy. The amount of water in front of the dam is fixed and never changes; it amounts to a one-time borrowing of water when the plant opens. The water is still there, though, and can be released back into the lake whenever desired (if the dam is strong enough.)

Aral Sea is drying up because the water from rivers that feed it was taken away for irrigation purposes. That water was physically removed, not just allowed to pool up. That's a big difference.

22 posted on 08/01/2011 8:23:27 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: SkyDancer
Ms. Carson is the only person that has killed more people than Mao during the communist revolution in China.

I read her book (Silent Spring) In 1960. I was in the 6th grade. I believed it. As an adult I realized it was mostly lies.

23 posted on 08/01/2011 8:29:53 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: _a_0_0_

Heaven forbid if those poor black people in the third world get to enjoy the benefits of electricity and the modern world! /sarc


24 posted on 08/01/2011 8:30:40 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: Greysard

So this dam is exclusively for power generation, not irrigation?


25 posted on 08/01/2011 8:44:14 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: cpdiii

I used to yell at my Rachel Carson loving friends. Malaria was almost eradicated. Now, WHO reports 250 million malaria and 1 million deaths. The deaths are mainly kids and pregnant women. I don’t know what year they stopped using DDT but say since 1965 that’d be over 50 million. She was one evil woman. But at least the birdies sing now.


26 posted on 08/01/2011 9:00:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: _a_0_0_
"They are concerned about butterflies' lives, but not human diseases."

Welcome to white western liberals, chief. Didn't you know Paul Ehrlich was a butterfly chaser before he went for the money as a gloom'n'doomer?

27 posted on 08/01/2011 9:05:51 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: sinanju
So this dam is exclusively for power generation, not irrigation?

That's what all the available information tells us... Besides, you don't need a dam for irrigation, you just need canals. Irrigation with water of high pressure is impossible anyway; you must deliver the water in pipes made out of quality steel, and once it is delivered it will fountain hundreds of feet into the sky and can cut a man in half. Imagine what it will do to the soil...

28 posted on 08/01/2011 9:06:58 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: CondorFlight

Once the reservoir is filled, they can then release the same amount of water as that flowing into it....meaning no loss.


29 posted on 08/01/2011 9:42:35 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Sure seems like the UN hates black people.

Christians too. Why let them have clean water?

30 posted on 08/01/2011 10:00:14 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama, eat your GOPeas.)
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To: Jeff Head

This situation is quite a bit different from that at Klamath Falls, but I thought you would still be interested.


31 posted on 08/01/2011 10:12:15 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: sinanju
If the Omo is damned up maybe the lake will go the way of the Aral Sea.

Kenya just announced that they are going to immediately put 10000 hectares of land in the River Omo delta around Lake Turkana under irrigation. The suits in NYC should butt out.

32 posted on 08/01/2011 10:13:01 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama, eat your GOPeas.)
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