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How the End of NASA Affects US National Security
Hudson NY ^ | August 1, 2011 | Taylor Dinerman

Posted on 08/02/2011 1:49:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: stevie_d_64

Elon Musk-SpaceX hosted a Washington D.C. inaugural gala along with Ariana Huffington (Post) for Barack Obama. Recently he shelled out $38,500 for a re-elect Obama fundraiser in CA.


21 posted on 08/02/2011 7:19:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yep, that might keep them out of the fire for a little while...No guarantees if you ask me...


22 posted on 08/02/2011 7:23:55 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There is no money. We are broke.

If we want to keep the entitlements, which many on FR seem to want to, things like space flight and foreign adventures have to be cut.


23 posted on 08/02/2011 7:34:34 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: stevie_d_64
No guarantees if you ask me...

None indeed.

24 posted on 08/02/2011 7:52:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: redgolum
There is no money. We are broke. If we want to keep the entitlements, which many on FR seem to want to, things like space flight and foreign adventures have to be cut.

Then they should cut back on the "greening" of NASA and keep our national security and workforce as a priority. But not under this president, they won't.

25 posted on 08/02/2011 7:54:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: redgolum

...foreign adventures...

Ok, I guess we can cut a lot of the State Department’s junkets around the globe for the foreseeable future...

I’d say lets rip her guts out to the 50% scale, right friggin’ now...

Lets see them whine and cry about that the second that bomb is dropped...

hehehe, popping the corn right now!!!


26 posted on 08/02/2011 9:01:35 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Pagey

bttt


27 posted on 08/02/2011 10:10:50 AM PDT by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama has no experience running anything, except his pedestrian mouth.)
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To: Truth29
To your point, another president who had different priorities from Mr. Bush would just change the priorities. He might make a speech, ask Congress for a law or two -- he'd start up his new priorities.

Only a no-class, low-class clown like Obama would go out of his way to micturate on people and screw over entire states.

28 posted on 08/02/2011 12:34:10 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: stevie_d_64
When the Russian partners boosted the cost of a ride up on the Soyuz’s from 20 million to 50 million .....

When did they do that? Was that carried in the Houston papers? I seem to have missed it on CBS News (</sarc>).

29 posted on 08/02/2011 12:45:03 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; stevie_d_64
Elon Musk-SpaceX hosted a Washington D.C. inaugural gala

Marked. Essential to know -- so Obama is trashing the alternative to Musk/SpaceX as a political reward, Chicago-style, while totally trashing NASA as well.

Marked for remembering, at the appropriate time.

These Obamarrhoids keep screwing things up ..... and then you find out their friends are heavily vested in the cleanup. Green initiatives, alternative energy, whatever -- leftist scumrats are there, waiting with their little access-capitalist/crony-capitalist buckets.

30 posted on 08/02/2011 1:07:19 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/march/218843/NASAs-cost-to-hitch-a-ride-on-Russian-rocket-rises


31 posted on 08/02/2011 1:21:23 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: lentulusgracchus

The buzz started around the first of the year...

Whats good about the Falcon (Dragon manned module) will be that it can dock to the US and ESA’s PMA docking ports...

The Soyuz’s can only dock to the Russian side of the ISS...

Ours is a manual lineup and dock, whereas the Russians have got a pretty good automatic system...

I assume, and have always wondered why we have not lowered ourselves to an automated system...

Mainly because the Shuttle, the Japanese HII and the other Euro-teams launch system are capable of aborting their approaches based upon human intuition and training to recognize very quickly a problem with any lineup or rate of closure, a little quicker than the Russian system...

At least that is what I once heard...


32 posted on 08/02/2011 3:09:47 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64
Mainly because the Shuttle, the Japanese HII and the other Euro-teams launch system are capable of aborting their approaches based upon human intuition ...

Yes, I remember that Progress capsule accident, years ago. Was that the ISS or Mir that had that accident and had a module depressurize?

I seem to recall an American astronaut was aboard at the time.

33 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Whats good about the Falcon (Dragon manned module) will be that it can dock to the US and ESA’s PMA docking ports...

Yes, I found an online article outlining the half-dozen commercial vehicle concepts in development -- Hell, I say develop all of 'em! America's always been better off for having Chevies and Plymouths and Crosleys around as alternatives to the Model A.

I tend to lean toward the spaceplane and lifting-body models, myself. Spam-in-a-can is just a little bit Russianizing for my taste (not that there's anything wrong with that </off Jerry>). Put a pilot on the stick!

34 posted on 08/02/2011 11:51:29 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Yep, that was Mike Foale...In ‘97 IIRC...On the MIR...

That was a big time mess...I think all his “experiments” and personal gear were in the Spektr module that totally decompressed...They were close to abandoning the MIR, but the Russians gave him a few pairs of “panties” until they were able to fix the leak and re-presurize the module...

I recall one of the things they were talking about was the Russian “auto-dock” system does not allow for a “reverse” translation away from the port in the terminal phase of the approach...The only thing the Russian commander could do was an overide command to intorduce a sideways translation command as the Soyuz was still closing...But the input was not enough and too late to avoid a collision...

The lessons learned was to not have to cut power and data cables translating through hatches needing to be closed in the event of a depresurization incident...Quick disconnects were flown up to replace the ones cut and “re-spliced” after the collision...Disperse yer underwear as soon as possible was another “unofficial” thing done to avoid having to go shopping for foreign un-mentionables, etc etc etc...

There are some other little interesting things that went on in that program that are a bit fuzzy in my memory, but then again I have not yet had my caffiene injection as yet...

BTW, I was surprised how much crap (trash) you can put into those Progress ships for incineration on the way back in...


35 posted on 08/03/2011 4:51:29 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: lentulusgracchus

Well, I say whatever works to keep us going in a forward direction is ok in my book as far as our space program goes...

Spaceplanes and lifting bodies are good to LEO, and would not really help in Earth to Moon or Mars missions...

We need to develop that Heavy lift system to get some big stuff up into LEO and stage it there for trips out of Earths orbit...

But we all know who we can thank for screwing that idea up...


36 posted on 08/03/2011 5:00:26 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Great summary of how we arrived in this mess. Figuring out how to get out of it is a challenge. Liberty is constantly under attack.


37 posted on 08/03/2011 5:14:35 AM PDT by bytesmith
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