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Apple factory finds answer to worker suicides... replace staff with one million robots
Daily Mail - Mail Online (U.K.) ^ | 2nd August 2011 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 08/02/2011 10:17:09 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

Taiwan's Foxconn Technology Group, known for assembling Apple's iPhones and iPads in China, plans to use more robots, with one report saying the company will use one million of them in the next three years, to cope with rising labour costs.

Foxconn's move highlights an increasing trend toward automation among Chinese companies as labour issues such as high-profile strikes and workers' suicides plague firms in sectors from vehicles to technology.

Contract manufacturers such as Foxconn, which also counts Dell, Hewlett-Packard and Nokia among its clients, are moving parts of their manufacturing to inland Chinese cities or other emerging markets. They are also boosting research and development investments to lift their thin margins. ...

Foxconn Chairman Terry Gou ... plans to use 1 million robots within three years, up from about 10,000 robots in use now and an expected 300,000 next year.

STRIKES, SUICIDES The technology group which makes Apple's iPhones and iPads plan to use more robots Foxconn, which has been plagued by a spate of workers' suicides in its Chinese factories since last year, plans to use the robots for simple assembly line procedures...

‘If they don't do this, they will have to move their factories elsewhere.’

...

Foxconn plans to buy a set-top plant in Mexico from Cisco Systems and is looking into investing more in Brazil, where it is already making mobile phone handsets.

It has bought LCD TV plants from Japan's Sony Corp in Mexico in 2009 and Slovakia in 2010 and is in cooperation talks with a number of top Japanese hi-tech firms, including Sharp, Canon and Hitachi.

Today, Hon Hai Precision's Taiwan shares rose 3.3 per cent, while Foxconn's cellphone maker unit Foxconn International's Hong Kong shares ended up 4.3 per cent.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antihuman; china; suicide; technotopia
Hey, the perfect human future without humans!

There's progress for ya.

(Well, not exactly for 'you')...

1 posted on 08/02/2011 10:17:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Once we train robots to buy and use this stuff we won’t be needed at all.


2 posted on 08/02/2011 10:21:31 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Robots will be able to do many forms of unskilled labor more cheaply than unskilled uneducated humans will. What will happen as a result, is that unskilled Third World labor will have a lower market value than what it costs to feed them.

Prepare for interesting times on the global front.

3 posted on 08/02/2011 10:27:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Average Al
[strumming guitar with trumpet in background]

"In the year 2525..."
4 posted on 08/02/2011 10:27:51 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You guys keep on harping about China’s “demographic time bomb”. Well Chinese companies are planning ahead for it and this is the clearest evidence of that trend.

Meanwhile, the US does not have coherent plan to deal with the upcoming “debt and entitlements” time bomb.


5 posted on 08/02/2011 10:31:03 AM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: PapaBear3625; Mrs. Don-o

***Robots will be able to do many forms of unskilled labor more cheaply than unskilled uneducated humans will.***

yeah, but can they sing..”No body knows de trouble I feel, no body knows my sorrow” in digital format?


6 posted on 08/02/2011 10:39:27 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: FortWorthPatriot
"In the year 2525..."

Yep, should be the Dem's campaign song.

7 posted on 08/02/2011 10:40:26 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Wait - I thought we were supposed to automate to compete with the Chinese.


8 posted on 08/02/2011 10:43:20 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Come on guys.

Please get my iPhone 5 produced and delivered before you suicide.


9 posted on 08/02/2011 10:43:52 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Taiwan’s Foxconn Technology Group, known for assembling Apple’s iPhones and iPads in China, plans to use more robots, with one report saying the company will use one million of them in the next three years, to cope with rising labour costs.”

Will that move be repeated across many industries located in China and will it be supported by the Chicoms?

And, then, with success of these program, where are the Chicoms going to employ the millions of Chinese workers that such projects will replace? Looming additional social unrest in China??


10 posted on 08/02/2011 10:45:52 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Mrs. Don-o

From the expired TJIC.com:


Say that we had first contact with some super (economically) advanced aliens.

…and pretty soon they set up factories here.

…and I was offered a job in one of these factories, doing software engineering.

The pay is $400k/year.

The work week is 20 hours long.

The work environment is far better than I’m used to – great internal decoration, well tended plants, a zen-like water garden near my desk, massages every other day.

…and then left-wing alien “sentient being rights activists” started protesting, because I was being forced to work for less than a quarter of the prevailing wage in Alpha Centauri, and my work hours were twice as long as the legal norms in Alpha Centauri, and I didn’t have every mandatory benefits like “other other year off”, and “free AI musical composition mentoring”.

…and then left-wing alien “sentient being rights activists” wanted to make it illegal for my employer and I to contract with each other at mutually beneficial terms.

…then I would be rip shit that some elitist who had never visited me, or knew of my actual alternatives on the ground presumed to decide that I shouldn’t have this opportunity.

Which brings me to my core point: Chinese factory conditions may not be the exact cup of tea for a San Francisco graphic designer or a Connecticut non-profit ecologist grant writer … but they’re, by definition, better than all the other alternatives available to the Chinese workers (or the factories would find it impossible to staff up).

Butt out, clueless activists.


Now consider how cheezed off the author would be to find out that because of the butting in his dream job was replaced by robots.


11 posted on 08/02/2011 10:46:32 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"to cope with rising labour costs. "

Maybe they could save by using labor instead. U can get a lot of savings that way.

12 posted on 08/02/2011 10:49:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: AfricanChristian
"You guys keep on harping about China’s “demographic time bomb”

I'm not sure precisely who "you guys" are --- quick Google check confirms my memory that I have never used that phrase online ---or what exactly the "time bomb" consists of...

But I do know that demographic problems ensue not only from raw total number of population, but from imbalances including but not limited to:

This massive robotics effort could arguably increase the number who are not only unemployed, but unemployable. Who cannot start families because they cannot support families. Who have been made, to use the redolent British term, redundant.

Fuel for rioting and looting or, if better controlled, war.

But we'll see, won't we?

13 posted on 08/02/2011 10:51:19 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Half the lies they tell about me ain't true." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Wuli
Looming additional social unrest in China??

So.....China has a humongous army. A Humongous imbalance in its male-female ration (particularly among younger men). And shortly, it will have a displaced work force.

What could go wrong?

14 posted on 08/02/2011 10:53:03 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill; Wuli

ration = ration. But, still an appropriate Freudian slip, no?


15 posted on 08/02/2011 10:55:31 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill; Wuli

ration = ratio. But, still an appropriate Freudian slip, no?


16 posted on 08/02/2011 10:55:51 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Until the robots commit suicide?


17 posted on 08/02/2011 11:00:40 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare


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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Why, yes, sort of not too awful: http://www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php


19 posted on 08/02/2011 11:06:31 AM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Last Dakotan

Why can’t Apple use American robots in American factories? They work just as cheaply as Chinese robots.


20 posted on 08/02/2011 11:07:54 AM PDT by Qout
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To: Qout

Because labor is a commodity like any other and the ‘free trade’ mentality we have allowed them to flood the market with cheap labor and then get the factories moved there. At that point they can do whatever, especially raise prices to nearly what it was before (or beyond) since the burden of costs to relocate back here are higher.

It’s no different than if it’s jobs or ram or cars. Typically we’ve prevented other companies from market flooding as an unfair trade practice. We gave up all that happy stuff over the last 25-30 years entirely and we have what we have now.

Great move by us, eh?


21 posted on 08/02/2011 11:12:15 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“STRIKES, SUICIDES The technology group which makes Apple’s iPhones and iPads plan to use more robots Foxconn, which has been plagued by a spate of workers’ suicides in its Chinese factories “

At the time the suicides were a “issue” they were far below the global average.


22 posted on 08/02/2011 11:17:38 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Oh! So what is the global average?


23 posted on 08/02/2011 11:30:37 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Half the lies they tell about me ain't true." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Average Al

Just don’t program the robots using self-organizing neural networks...


24 posted on 08/02/2011 11:31:36 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Tolsti2
Because labor is a commodity like any other

Absolutely. Remember that the Erie Canal was dug by hand using Irish immigrants. No need to do it that way anymore.

25 posted on 08/02/2011 11:37:30 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: PapaBear3625; American Constitutionalist
>>>>>Prepare for interesting times on the global front. <<<<<

That's what man-made global warming scam is all about - how to cull "useless eaters"

26 posted on 08/02/2011 11:38:59 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I don’t remember off the top of my head....I just remember looking everything up and doing the math, at the time.

I did it because not one article I read about the Foxconn suicides discussed how they compared to the averages anywhere. Especially China. That made it sound like a made-up issue, to me.


27 posted on 08/02/2011 11:46:01 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Hey, the perfect human future without humans! There's progress for ya. (Well, not exactly for 'you')..." The use of black paint on them, would give a Idea of union Democrats and a strike will ensue!,

We can't make that equipment here?

28 posted on 08/02/2011 11:59:16 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Who is going to build the 1 million robots? iRobots to build iPads?

http://www.irobot.com/


29 posted on 08/02/2011 12:12:35 PM PDT by OCC
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To: Qout

***Why can’t Apple use American robots in American factories?***

All those robots are Democrats. They are not programed to work, just protest.


30 posted on 08/02/2011 2:18:14 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Someone’s gotta make the robots.


31 posted on 08/02/2011 2:52:12 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: wbill

“ration = ratio”. But, still an appropriate Freudian slip, no?”

Yes.


32 posted on 08/03/2011 10:04:35 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: PapaBear3625
Yet it won't happen that quickly. Robots still cost a lot of money and there is still a lot of cheap,semi-skilled labor in Asia

however, the numbers of folks entering the workforce has peaked in China and is close to peak in India, Vietnam, Indonesia. In another decade or so their working-age populations will decline. By 2020-2030 most of Asia bar Pakistan, Iran, uzbekistan, tajikistan, afghanistan and Cambodia-Laos will be middle class and not rely on cheap labor alone

robots would be "cheap enough" only by that period or later.

This would not affect the major part of Asia

However, this rise of machines will badly affect the poor in the Islamic world and in parts of Africa (not Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi or Tanzania and maybe parts of West Africa)

33 posted on 08/05/2011 3:24:03 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: AfricanChristian

Right now it may be cheaper to just move production to other countries — but for socks, textiles etc. and that is happening now as China gets richer


34 posted on 08/05/2011 3:25:02 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: wbill

that was a funny Freudian slip :) thanks!


35 posted on 08/05/2011 3:27:08 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Tolsti2
since the burden of costs to relocate back here are higher.

not yet, but textiles are already relocating to Bangladesh etc.

36 posted on 08/05/2011 3:28:01 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Yes, but were they really suicides?


37 posted on 08/05/2011 3:29:38 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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