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Fiscal Conservatives Barred from Supercommittee (TeaParty not welcome)
Weekly Standard ^ | 8/2/2011 | Stephen Hayes

Posted on 08/02/2011 11:23:45 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss

The debt ceiling deal will pass the Senate early this afternoon. No suspense there. But the vote will be worth watching for another reason: Three Republican Senate sources tell TWS that senators who vote against the deal will be ineligible to serve on the so-called “supercommittee” for deficit reduction that the legislation creates.

While there’s certain logic to such a policy, it could be self-defeating. Excluding those who vote against the debt deal will ensure that some of the most fiscally conservative members of the Senate Republican caucus, including most of its freshmen, will be reading about the committee’s activities in the newspaper rather than guiding its decisions. Among those who have already declared their opposition to the deal: libertarian-leaning senators Mike Lee and Rand Paul; Jim DeMint, the aggressive fiscal hawk from South Carolina; conservative reformers Ron Johnson from Wisconsin and Pat Toomey from Pennsylvania; the ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee, Jeff Sessions; and Florida’s Marco Rubio, already one of the highest-profile conservatives in Congress.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; debtceiling; liberalfascism; rinofascism; snub; tyranny
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1 posted on 08/02/2011 11:23:51 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss
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To: GreaterSwiss
Republicans Deny

UPDATE - McConnell spokesman Don Stewart: "The story is wrong. There is no requirement to vote for the bill. Period." Phew. One element of my qualified, tepid support for this flawed deal was a belief that strong fiscal conservatives would comprise the GOP's contingent on the joint special committee. If Hayes' initial sources had been correct, the compromise would have instantly become appreciably worse, and many conservatives would have rightly felt betrayed.

2 posted on 08/02/2011 11:26:25 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Dingy Harry strikes again.


3 posted on 08/02/2011 11:26:29 AM PDT by mojito
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To: GreaterSwiss

We WILL remember all of this BS in Nov 2012. We will KILL the current GOP and make ANOTHER party(Remember the WHIGS). The current GOP IS DEAD TO ME!


4 posted on 08/02/2011 11:26:50 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: GreaterSwiss
Lol! Wouldn't surprise me if McConnell sent Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, and Scott Brown.
5 posted on 08/02/2011 11:27:14 AM PDT by apillar
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To: US Navy Vet

We WILL remember all of this BS in Nov 2012. We will KILL the current GOP and make ANOTHER party(Remember the WHIGS). The current GOP IS DEAD TO ME!

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Are you signing on crew, Cap’n?


6 posted on 08/02/2011 11:29:31 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

7 posted on 08/02/2011 11:30:17 AM PDT by houeto
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To: GreaterSwiss

The fix is in.

Taxes will skyrocket.

I feel sick.


8 posted on 08/02/2011 11:30:54 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: US Navy Vet

I’m with you on that. I said the same thing yesterday. I’m tired of the GOP establishment selling us down the river. I’m done with them for good. They haven’t got any money from me in almost 3 years and they will NEVER get another penny. This was the last straw. No more chances. Done. Period.


9 posted on 08/02/2011 11:31:51 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: GreaterSwiss

What an inflammatory and blatantly false headline. Gotta love pundits - just make something up and print it. Jeesh.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 11:32:20 AM PDT by keat
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To: KansasGirl; All

call the senate and the house.

if they ban tea party memebers from the committee, we will activly primary them.

NO MORE COUNTRY CLUB DC.


11 posted on 08/02/2011 11:33:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GreaterSwiss
Beware The "Super Congress" - excellent read.

McConnell sold out the country and the U.S. Constitution in
one single flush down the drain.

Excerpts:

"The creation of a 12 person elitist panel of lawmakers is absurd and is just meant to fast track more awful legislation through the Washington meat grinder."

"Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits. Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process."

A "RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION" Campaign should be started immediately by PRIMARYING and REMOVING all those who have SIGNED ON to this atrocity on the taxpayers of America!


12 posted on 08/02/2011 11:33:50 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: GreaterSwiss
First and foremost Mr. Hayes, you do not have your facts right when you stated “the so-called “supercommittee” for deficit reduction” This is in fact the supercommittee for the largest tax increase in America's history!

Second, it was you and your ilk who thought the Tea Party were being unreasonable and should just give the liberal socialist what they want until the GOP could win the next election!

Enjoy the final nail in the coffin of what we used to know as the United States of America!

You all played a role in her demise, every time you reported the debt limit has to be raised to prevent a default! Every American in their right mind knew that this Country could not default if the debt limit was not raised, but, you and your ilk continued to misreport the country was heading for a default and the Tea Party would be responsible for the defeat of the GOP next year if they did not cave!

We are not going to forget who was instrumental in the demise of this Nation!

Not every American is as stupid as you would like to think they are!Once again, it is the American people who have been played, screwed, and beaten into submission by the GOP elitist, liberal socialist, and it's the Country at large who will pay a very big price for it!

13 posted on 08/02/2011 11:34:16 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: KansasGirl

If these leaders do allow tax increases heading into an election year, that is essentially political suicide for them as party leaders and for the party as a whole. They need to be summarily warned by all of us in the base today.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 11:34:56 AM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: GreaterSwiss
...senators who vote against the deal will be ineligible to serve on the so-called “supercommittee” for deficit reduction that the legislation creates.

So how's that "save the country and our freedoms" bill working out for you all?

Regards,
J. Galt

15 posted on 08/02/2011 11:35:09 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: GreaterSwiss
McConnell says it's not true. Mitch McConnell: No litmus test for 'super committee'

I'd pick from Jeff Sessions, Jim DeMint, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio in the Senate.
16 posted on 08/02/2011 11:35:23 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: GreaterSwiss
Photobucket
17 posted on 08/02/2011 11:38:18 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Girlene
McConnell says it's not true.

Until it's done...

18 posted on 08/02/2011 11:39:22 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Servant of the Cross

“One element of my qualified, tepid support for this flawed deal was a belief that strong fiscal conservatives would comprise the GOP’s contingent on the joint special committee.”

It would still not fly. Think it through: only 12 States at the most will get partial representation, 38 States will get -NO- direct representation in the Royal Congress. The odds of your local representative being in this Royal Congress are 3 in 435. The odds of either of your senators being appointed to the Royal Congress are 1 in 100. This will also seal in perpetuity the Republican and Democrat monopoly on power, because no independent or third party would EVER be appointed to the Royal Congress.

This is institutionalized taxation without representation. A less extreme form was the whole reason for our secession from England.


19 posted on 08/02/2011 11:41:12 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: GreaterSwiss
Most Federal Office Holders embrace Keynesian quackery. Republicans need to bring the few who understand money, in Congress, into the fore, to carry the fight. This is essential, if we are to stop the systematic destruction of American wealth, which is what the Obama economic policy amounts to.

It is not just a matter of fighting him on taxes. Blocked in the effort to redistribute wealth through the tax system, the Keynesians will simply destroy it by continuing to debase the currency. The result will be confiscation via even (seemingly) low Capital Gains tax rates, and by cheapening the value of all accounts receivable. (It is very hard to succeed in business, if someone keeps devaluing your accounts receivable.)

The cut in Federal Spending has to be severe, or it won't accomplish what needs to be accomplished.

For a realistic view of what Keynesian economics are all about: Economics Of A Sociopath. To understand the underlying monetary issues: Medium of Exchange.

Americans have been put on notice--repeatedly put on notice--that Obama is a demagogue who hates American high achievers. His rhetoric, throughout his career, has demonized such. There is no excuse for not recognizing the problem, and fighting back.

William Flax

20 posted on 08/02/2011 11:41:49 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Time to primary all Yes votes!


21 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:03 AM PDT by RED SOUTH (If you liked George W. Bush, youÂ’ll LOVE Rick Perry! Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: GreaterSwiss
Grow the TEA PARTY numbers. Make congress shake in their shoes. Clean house and save this country. Government by the people, not by the elite. To hell with the new world order, the U.N. and Islam. The Tea Party can make the U.S. great again. Photobucket
22 posted on 08/02/2011 11:44:06 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: mojito

.....guess who the13th. member of this gang is? ...none other than the The White House!

They have indicated that they will harness the power of the Super Congress, thereby becoming the de facto deciding 13th member.


23 posted on 08/02/2011 11:44:53 AM PDT by caww
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To: US Navy Vet
We WILL remember all of this BS in Nov 2012.

You've got that right. If there isn't a few (not just one) Tea party members on that committee, we'll KNOW we've been lied to by our 'own' party - AGAIN. If it weren't for the Tea party members, the republicans would still be sitting in the corner as the simple minority in the house.
By golly, for 2012 I'm going to work my butt (and fingers) off like never before to get out the Tea party votes. I've never been so pumped up!

Free the tax slaves. We're not animals!

24 posted on 08/02/2011 11:45:48 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: mojito

I Doubt very much that the people of Nevada could possibly re elected Harry. ACORN did it their way. Unless we vote in the precinct voting booth, and the ballots are hand counted by real people rather than manipulative computers, the scribes and Pharisee hypocrites will prevail!


25 posted on 08/02/2011 11:47:10 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( NO MORE BUSHS!)
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To: concerned about politics

Anyone know how Alan West voted last night?


26 posted on 08/02/2011 11:48:55 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: GreaterSwiss

"Taxation without Representation"


27 posted on 08/02/2011 11:49:57 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: GreaterSwiss
SouporCongress? I'll take the Soup.

There is no Constitutional authorization to reconstitute the Legislative Branch.

Attempting to cut Conservatives out of the process will have dire consequences. It is a direct affront to the 'next to last box'.

Ignore the electorate at your peril, RINOs!

You could be looking for a job in the economy you create.

28 posted on 08/02/2011 11:50:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

if there were ever an engraved invitation to target, challenge and tithe from your paycheck in order to defeat Mitch McConnell, this is it.


29 posted on 08/02/2011 11:53:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Psalm 144
This will also seal in perpetuity the Republican and Democrat monopoly on power, because no independent or third party would EVER be appointed to the Royal Congress...........This is 'institutionalized taxation without representation.'.......A less extreme form was the whole reason for our secession from England.

Yes sir! Indeed!......Sounds like the demo-rats and re-pups have no intentions of letting their gravey train be foiled by the American people.

Just as they do with everything...they acknowledge the "new" changes the people demand...but then corral their sphere of control away from any who might have changed the face of Washington. That is what this committee of 13 is about....at any other time in history it would be called TREASON.

30 posted on 08/02/2011 11:54:46 AM PDT by caww
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To: conservativebabe
Did you see the thread from last night? I was one of the posters who voiced my displeasure about West voting “yea” (along with many others) and we were being told we were ignorant!

For some reason, there is a belief that we should accept this carp sandwich as a great beginning because the very same people who have spent us into oblivion are now going to get our fiscal house in order. Never mind that the cuts are nonexistent (especially when you factor in even the slightest bit of inflation - which has a really great chance of increasing over 10 years, dontcha think?) but the simplest act of just legislating no baseline increase next year would have lobbed 9 trillion off, immediately. Additionally, the 1% plan wasn't even considered! Suddenly, there are many who believe the same Congress that couldn't manage to stand on terra firma and say no are now going to do that with the help of the shopaholic democrats because they're now a "super" Congress.

Finally, they just reached into our pockets and gave Obama TRILLIONS more to blow on special interests and couldn't even make him responsible for it before the next election. Yea, those against this are ignorant, alright.

31 posted on 08/02/2011 11:56:12 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: GreaterSwiss

This type of concentration of power is NOT my definition of smaller gubmint. This is as scary as Barry’s unregulated and unsupervised Czars. -


32 posted on 08/02/2011 11:56:59 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Just takes 1 RINO and Democrats own the “supercommittee” anyhow.


33 posted on 08/02/2011 12:02:53 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: GreaterSwiss

bttt


34 posted on 08/02/2011 12:03:52 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: GreaterSwiss

“senators who vote against the deal will be ineligible to serve on the so-called “supercommittee”

So vote for it and get on that damned comittee. Talk about your misleading headlines.


35 posted on 08/02/2011 12:03:58 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Agreed

Some of us are tired of being lied to or being told that it’s “the best we can expect”. BS! If our founders adopted that way of thinking we wouldn’t exist today.

Some of us expect to elect people who will ACTUALLY represent us and go to Washington to do as they say they will, which is the will of the people.

Some of us expect real results.

Days of compromise are over. Let the Tea Party be that which will save this Republic for all of us. They are our only hope at this point.


36 posted on 08/02/2011 12:05:42 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: US Navy Vet

Anyone know how Alan West voted last night?

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He voted: AYE


37 posted on 08/02/2011 12:06:00 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: ilgipper

Enough warnings. They need to be returned to the private sector, pronto.


38 posted on 08/02/2011 12:07:26 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Good they should all refuse to serve on a totally unconstitutional committee.


39 posted on 08/02/2011 12:08:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: The Bronze Titan
A "RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION" Campaign should be started immediately by PRIMARYING and REMOVING all those who have SIGNED ON to this atrocity on the taxpayers of America!

We have one. It is a Free Republic Alliance site:


RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION - AN FR ALLIANCE SITE

40 posted on 08/02/2011 12:12:58 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: conservativebabe

As a proud TEA Party member, I have this to add.....

“We’re the ones we’ve been waiting for”. LOL


41 posted on 08/02/2011 12:13:39 PM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: The Bronze Titan

If there is no Constitutional challenge to this provision, then the fault for the complete destruction of our government is our own.


42 posted on 08/02/2011 12:13:57 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: SERKIT

Sounds like that BASTERTS enabling act to me.


43 posted on 08/02/2011 12:14:28 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Girlene
Does this Bill say anthing about how the committee is selected, could be that Obama gets to appoint the committee
44 posted on 08/02/2011 12:15:30 PM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: liberalh8ter

LOL love it

And it’s true


45 posted on 08/02/2011 12:16:25 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: US Navy Vet

I second that.


46 posted on 08/02/2011 12:18:55 PM PDT by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,perverts,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: Psalm 144

Sad he has defected to the “Washington Insiders” so we MUST then “Primary” him. Alan we no longer know you.


47 posted on 08/02/2011 12:25:30 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Grunthor

Hannity just said it was announced any Senator who voted against the bill will not be eligible for the Super Congress Committee.

That needs to be confirmed though. Hannity sometimes doesn’t get it right.


49 posted on 08/02/2011 12:27:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: GreaterSwiss

Seems to me to be unconstitutional, both because we outlaw have Bills of Attainder and because all persons in congress get equal representation.


50 posted on 08/02/2011 12:28:28 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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