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To Hell with You People
NRO ^ | 08/02/11 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 08/02/2011 11:34:08 AM PDT by freespirited

Look, I am past exhausted talking about liberal media bias. It’s real, we all know it, and people who deny it aren’t even fooling themselves. But some things just have to be pointed out. This morning I watched the first 15 minutes of the Today Show. I don’t particularly love or even like the program, but I find it useful to see what the producers think is the big news of the day. And sometimes Chuck Todd is on, and I like him. If I sound defensive about watching the show it’s only because I am.

Anyway, the first ten minutes was about Gabby Giffords’ return to the House yesterday. I’m not sure it merited the full ten minutes or trumped the hard news that later followed, but it’s a great story and everyone is rooting for the lady, so I’m fine with it.

But think about this for a second. The Giffords shooting sent the media elite in this country into a bout of St. Vitus’s dance that would have warranted an army of exorcists in previous ages. Sarah Palin’s Facebook map was an evil totem that forced some guy to go on a shooting spree. The New York Times, the Washington Post, all three broadcast networks — particularly NBC whose senior foreign-affairs correspondent, Andrea Mitchell, devotes, by my rough reckoning, ten times as much air time to whining about Sarah Palin as she does about anything having to do with foreign affairs — flooded the zone with “Have you no shame” finger wagging. A memo went forth demanding that everyone at MSNBC get their dresses over their heads about the evil “tone” from the right. Media Matters went into overdrive working the interns 24/7 to “prove” that Republicans deliberately foment violence with their evil targets on their evil congressional maps.

Everyone “knew” the shooter was a tea partier. Except he wasn’t. He wasn’t even a conservative. He was a sick, demented, nutball. And it still didn’t matter! More bleating and caterwauling about the “tone” followed. More chin stroking and tut-tutting from Meet the Press roundtables and “very special segments” on the Today Show. More pizzas were ordered for the Media Matters galley slaves.

Finally, president Obama, our national-healer, gives a speech. It was a good speech. Indeed it was one of the first speeches in a long while that got anything like bipartisan support. Civility. New tone. No more martial metaphors. These were the takeaways.

So flashforward to this week. Tom Friedman — who knows a bit about Hezbollah — calls the tea partiers the “Hezbollah faction” of the GOP bent on taking the country on a “suicide mission.” All over the place, conservative Republicans are “hostage takers” and “terrorists,” “terrorists” and “traitors.” They want to “end life as we know it on this planet,” says Nancy Pelosi. They are betraying the Founders, too. Chris Matthews all but signs up for the “Make an Ass of Yourself” contest at the State Fair. Joe Nocera writes today that “the Tea Party Republicans can put aside their suicide vests.” Lord knows what Krugman and Olbermann have said.

Then last night, on the very day Gabby Giffords heroically returns to cast her first vote since that tragic attack seven months ago, the vice president of the United States calls the Republican party a bunch of terrorists.

No one cares. I hate the “if this were Bush” game so we’re in luck. Instead imagine if this was Dick Cheney calling the Progressive Caucus (or whatever they’re called) a “bunch of terrorists” on the day Giffords returned to the Congress. Would the mainstream media notice or care? Would Meet the Press debate whether this raises “troubling questions” about the White House’s sensitivity? Would Andrea Mitchell find some way to blame Sarah Palin for Dick Cheney’s viciousness? Would Keith Olbermann explode like a mouse subjected to the Ramone’s music in Rock and Roll High School? Something inside me hidden away shouts, “Hell yes they would!”

The Today Show even had Debbie Wasserman Schultz on this morning for five minutes talking about Giffords. No one thought to ask her what she thought of Biden’s comments? It’s not like she’s the Democratic party’s national spokesperson or anything. Oh, wait. She is!

Instead, after the full ten minutes on Giffords, we get an update about the debt-limit situation (which is supposedly an Armageddon-level issue) and Kelly O’Donnell basically carries water for Biden on the issue by completely muddying whether he said anything of the sort at all. (His office says, no, no the vice president didn’t call them terrorists, he just politely agreed with all the Democratic congressmen in the room that they “acted like terrorists.” Ah, this is a distinction a team of a million Jesuits working around the clock would have a hard time slicing.)

And yet you know the next time there’s the slightest, remotely exploitable tragedy or hint of violence, the same reporters, editors, producers, and politicians are going to insist that blood was spilled because of the right wing’s rhetoric.

Well, go to Hell. All of you.


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My sentiments exactly. Well actually, my sentiments regarding the LSM are quite a bit more negative.
1 posted on 08/02/2011 11:34:13 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

Has nothing to do with this thread, but I’m listening to Rush. Sobering. I have never heard him like this before. We are over the edge and in free fall.


2 posted on 08/02/2011 11:40:03 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: freespirited

Good job, Jonah! And speaking of the Matthews show, it needs to be renamed, ‘Hairball’. I have 3 cats and Chrissy sounds exactly like they do when they are hacking one up.


3 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:14 AM PDT by JPG (Yes she can!)
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To: freespirited

Sounds like he’s at the end of his ability to stay nice. I wonder how many Americans are there.


4 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:14 AM PDT by lurk
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To: freespirited

Fight is still worth fighting.


5 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:40 AM PDT by Shark24
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To: arkady_renko

Yup. The old boy sounds pretty grim this day.

He sounds resigned.

Not good.

We must keep working to end this mindless government spending.


6 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:52 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama can't count.)
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To: freespirited

oh— they on their way there, Jonah.....unfortunately, they are taking our country there with them.....

My mother gets upset when anyone bashes Obama....”He is our President. We have to support the President.”

Well— mother dear- I am your daughter- how about a little support when your heroes call me a racist, and NOW a terrorist?

I am sick of these narcissists thinking that them calling me names will shut me up. Call me anything you damn well please- I will never shut up as you daily seek to steal my GOD GIVE RIGHTS TO LIFE AND LIBERTY!

NEVER!!

I am only one voice— but you ain’t taking THAT from me!


7 posted on 08/02/2011 11:46:01 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: freespirited

8 posted on 08/02/2011 11:46:54 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: freespirited
Propaganda 101. Make your adversary the enemy, and then eliminate him.

Do some research (though I bet you know it already). The statements were managed very carefully.

9 posted on 08/02/2011 11:47:45 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: freespirited

This bitter clinging terrorist hobbitt agrees.

FUBO!


10 posted on 08/02/2011 11:48:18 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: freespirited

I agree. I have really gotten to the point that they can all kiss my...butt.

Our great country is in trouble and the MSM just continues their crusade - hand in hand with the socialists - to continue the destruction.

It is painful...


11 posted on 08/02/2011 11:48:26 AM PDT by GOPRaleigh (I cannot afford any more hope and change)
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To: freespirited
Jonah Goldberg fired Ann Coulter from NRO. I never forgave him.

12 posted on 08/02/2011 11:48:28 AM PDT by y6162
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To: freespirited

Problem is ‘Hell’ is a ‘ right wing Christian terrorist’ concept, and we’ll prob all get blamed for that, too.


13 posted on 08/02/2011 11:48:51 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: freespirited

It is a diversion. There is too much tea party positive news. Rather than cover any tea party positive news, cover a diversion. See how pea brain tv jurinalists think?


14 posted on 08/02/2011 11:51:35 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: freespirited
"You Gave Them Everything They Wanted And We Got Nothing" ... SeeBS News Reporter (?! - LOL; more like trained mouthpiece for the WH/DNC) Norah O'Donnell to WH Spokesman
15 posted on 08/02/2011 11:52:19 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: y6162

Sounds like he may revisit that decision?


16 posted on 08/02/2011 11:53:57 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: y6162

>>>>Jonah Goldberg fired Ann Coulter from NRO. I never forgave him.

Because she’s got more balls than he could ever dream of having. :)


17 posted on 08/02/2011 11:54:53 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: arkady_renko

Unfortunately, Rush has been using false and deceptive arguments about this for a week or more. He has been arguing with the mendacity of a Democrat. I love Rush most of the time but not when he is deliberately deceptive and he has schooled me too well not to be able to recognize it when I hear it.


18 posted on 08/02/2011 11:55:24 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: lurk

Sounds like he’s at the end of his ability to stay nice. I wonder how many Americans are there.

**********************

Only the smart ones. The dumb ones will have to figure it out as they return from being laid off, collect their past due bills and returned checks in the mail, then when they reach their apartments realize that they can’t read their mail because the utilities have been cut off. Then, at that point, a portion of them will begin to wonder what happened.


19 posted on 08/02/2011 11:56:59 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Goldberg

Welcome to ten years ago. Whatever would we do without you yappers?

20 posted on 08/02/2011 11:57:08 AM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: freespirited
Making the news
21 posted on 08/02/2011 11:57:52 AM PDT by null and void (Day 922. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: freespirited

Yeah. The same party that went to war against their own country upon the election of the first Republican and then when they lost enacted Jim Crow laws, who then ran all Republicans out of the South, and consigned a whole race of people for 100 years to dhimmi status, who then blamed all racial tensions on Republicans, who subsequently sided with bolshevik mass murderers of every stripe, and who now find solidarity with terrorists, so much so that we can no longer use the word
“terrorist”, lest we offend, now call us terrorists, all the while lecturing us about civility. Which really means shutup while I beat the crap out of you.

Excuse me if I’m not impressed with the Democrat party.


22 posted on 08/02/2011 11:58:32 AM PDT by barstoolblues
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To: freespirited
Great article!

Tom Friedman — who knows a bit about Hezbollah — calls the tea partiers the “Hezbollah faction” of the GOP bent on taking the country on a “suicide mission.” All over the place, conservative Republicans are “hostage takers” and “terrorists,” “terrorists” and “traitors.” They want to “end life as we know it on this planet,” says Nancy Pelosi. They are betraying the Founders, too. Chris Matthews all but signs up for the “Make an Ass of Yourself” contest at the State Fair. Joe Nocera writes today that “the Tea Party Republicans can put aside their suicide vests.” Lord knows what Krugman and Olbermann have said.

Then last night, on the very day Gabby Giffords heroically returns to cast her first vote since that tragic attack seven months ago, the vice president of the United States calls the Republican party a bunch of terrorists.

And on MSNBC, after the hosts there dissing American Exceptionalism for months, Matthews has a commercial for Hardball where he is standing on a hill overlooking the white house and tingle-legging about Obama, ending with American Exceptionalism. Then pointing to where Obama is, the White House.
23 posted on 08/02/2011 11:58:43 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: RexBeach

did he say it was time to panic?


24 posted on 08/02/2011 12:00:36 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Shark24
Fight is still worth fighting

Yes, it is. Particularly so given the nature of our opponents - and their plans for us. And here's why:

“The state system which exists in our country is terrible not because it is undemocratic, authoritarian, based only on physical constraint - a man can live in such conditions without harm to his spiritual essence.”

“Our present system is unique in world history, because above and above its physical and economic constraints, it demands of us total surrender of our souls, continuous and active participation in the general, conscious lie. To this putrefaction of the soul, this spiritual enslavement, human beings who wish to be human cannot consent.

When Caesar, having exacted what is Caesar's, demands still more insistently that we render unto him what is God's - that is a sacrifice we dare not make!”

The most important part of our freedom, inner freedom, is always subject to our will. If we surrender it to corruption, we do not deserve to be called human.
Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, from the essay "As Breathing and Consciousness Return" - October, 1973

That's what's at stake. Here. Now. Today.

Be prepared for war.

25 posted on 08/02/2011 12:01:15 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: y6162

Yes, well given some of Ann’s @ssinine comments lately, sounds like Jonah may have been justified.


26 posted on 08/02/2011 12:01:15 PM PDT by Jess79
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To: freespirited

Perhaps Jonah, who popularized the term “Liberal Fascists”, is coming to understand that the “liberal” part of that formulation is but a mask that is being increasingly discarded.


27 posted on 08/02/2011 12:01:46 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: freespirited

Jonah has been wagging his email fingers at me for this exact take for a decade now.

When NR had a chance to make a difference...it chickened out.

Too late now...it was too late when Obamacare passed.


28 posted on 08/02/2011 12:02:29 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: freespirited

From the title I thought this was an opus. Oh well.


29 posted on 08/02/2011 12:02:40 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: barstoolblues

Bravo! Very quotable. Guaranteed to make lib Dems heads explode.


30 posted on 08/02/2011 12:03:17 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: freespirited

We can all readily agree with Jonah Goldberg on this one. The only good news is that the MSM have completely abandoned even the slightest pretense of objectivity making their blatant bias harder to ignore by those who still want to pretend the national news outlets are anything more than a PR arm of the Democrat party’s liberal wing. In short, the MSM are fast losing credibility. Unfortunately, not fast enough,. They still have some power to persuade the gullible and naive - and they do. Exhibit A: President Barack Hussein Obama.


31 posted on 08/02/2011 12:03:32 PM PDT by Jim Scott ( "Game On!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: freespirited
St. Vitus’s dance


32 posted on 08/02/2011 12:03:49 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: freespirited

This country is finished, and it is abundantly clear that only a few in The Government (capitals intentional, because it obviously isn’t “our government” any longer) want to do anything about it.

I am actually beginning to welcome the reset button that collapse will bring. There is so much deep-seated corruption, so much lying, so much gutlessness and stupidity and backstabbing and chickenheartedness at so many levels of society and government that only a cleansing fireball of destruction will turn things around. The sentiment espoused by Col. Frank Slade that “Somebody needs to take A FLAMETHROWER TO THIS PLACE!” has never held more truth than it does right now.

I’m done fighting City Hall. I’ll put my time in on republican primaries to try and cleanse some of the dog$h!t from our own party, but I wil never donate to nor cast a vote for any Socialism Lite candidate ever again. The GOP can FOAD.


33 posted on 08/02/2011 12:04:07 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: freespirited
If the TEA party movement ever decided to stop trying to change the disastrous course this nation is on by any other than peaceful means, there would be no doubt, and no need for the MSM to cobble together a bunch of knee jerk crap to tell anyone.

Instead, the people who hang them from lightposts will likely be those whose acts of violence are increasing and ignored by the selfsame journolists who try to blame us.

34 posted on 08/02/2011 12:04:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: eeevil conservative; xd40

“Call me anything you damn well please- I will never shut up as you daily seek to steal my GOD GIVE RIGHTS TO LIFE AND LIBERTY!

NEVER!!

I am only one voice— but you ain’t taking THAT from me!”

AMEN sister!!!


35 posted on 08/02/2011 12:05:32 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: y6162
Jonah Goldberg fired Ann Coulter from NRO. I never forgave him.

I remember when some lame news anchor was interviewing Ann and commented about her having been "fired", she berated him for not understanding the difference between an employee and a syndicated columnist. As a syndicated columnist whose column was dropped, she did not draw a paycheck from Jonah.

36 posted on 08/02/2011 12:05:42 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: arkady_renko

I have missed Rush this am ....can you be more specific?


37 posted on 08/02/2011 12:05:42 PM PDT by woofie
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To: freespirited

I don’t understand why he tortures himself watching the MSM. If you do you just get angry. There are intelligent Lib sources out there you can read if you want a smart, non-propaganda Lib point of view. Or you can watch the MSM to analyze how they report news like Media Research Center does. If you do that, you know you will be encountering bias so it doesn’t upset you. No conservative should watch any MSM with any expectation that what they present is fair. Expect that it is all 100% agenda driven.


38 posted on 08/02/2011 12:06:37 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: barstoolblues

Here’s one of mine that you’ll like:

“People need to wake up and smell the killing fields that inhabit the imaginations of the current occupants of the White House.”


39 posted on 08/02/2011 12:07:07 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: JPG

I like that! From this day forward HAIRBALL IT IS!.......................

40 posted on 08/02/2011 12:08:31 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Jess79

“Yes, well given some of Ann’s @ssinine comments lately, sounds like Jonah may have been justified.”

The phrase “girly man” comes to mind.


41 posted on 08/02/2011 12:09:22 PM PDT by y6162
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To: lurk

“Being nice” and “civil” to the left just invites them to push us further back.

There’s a cliff behind us folks. Push back or die.


42 posted on 08/02/2011 12:10:19 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ncpatriot

It sounded as though he was about to say it, but I didn’t hear it.

-Rex


43 posted on 08/02/2011 12:10:33 PM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama can't count.)
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To: freespirited
And it gets better: Remember the mass-murdering Norwegian nutball from last week?

Remember how he was a Christian, a Teapartier, a follower of Pam Geller and Mark Steyn?

Well, maybe. But it turns out the guy is a complete nutjob:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2757620/posts

But who cares? Being the NY Slimes means never having to bear any responsibility for the smears and character assassinations that are the liberal media's stock in trade.

44 posted on 08/02/2011 12:11:25 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Yes, as Glenn Beck has been saying of late: “Turn it OFF.”


45 posted on 08/02/2011 12:12:21 PM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Noumenon

I like the quote, indeed.

I wouldn’t limit it to the “current occupants” though.
“Killing fields” inhabit the imaginations of every leftist.


46 posted on 08/02/2011 12:12:51 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: freespirited
And sometimes Chuck Todd is on, and I like him.

There's a problem right there. Personally, I do not like anybody who (in Todd's case, clearly) sides with those who wish to destroy traditional America and its families. Stop trying to "get along", Jonah. If somebody is a leftist scumbag, they are a leftist scumbag and there is nothing to "like". Nothing.

47 posted on 08/02/2011 12:13:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

If someone is a leftist scumbag, they intend to have you killed by the government if you disagree or resist. That’s a fact.

Treat them accordingly.


48 posted on 08/02/2011 12:14:38 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: freespirited

OP: completely agree.

But just remember that the very definition of liberalism allows for the ability to 1)lie 2)be hypocritical 3)posture about “righteousness” without regards to #1 and #2.
Thats becuase pure and simply, for liberals, the ends justify the means. Everytime, all the time.
Conservatives define a good fight, they define a fair fight. They adhere to basic rules of truth and logic.

In this respect, I just don’t let my emotions get the better of me when I hear the VP and a congressman describing the tea party as terrorists.
Because they are who they are. They are lying, deceitful, hypocritical people who will never change.
THE LSM are the same people, so they will always support this behavior and will never call it out.

The only thing we can do is:
1) dont allow yourself to fall to these tactics or get to discouraged when you see it.
2) continue to communicate with conservatives
3) support those who are able to communicate conservatism to the public like Rush and Sean and Mark etc.
4) work within the system the best you can in the school systems, the elections, politics, media etc.

It aint over till its over.
Remember the elections of 2010 for some moral encouragement. Those were historic.
I still think conservatism is winning and rebounding.
Better sooner than later.


49 posted on 08/02/2011 12:15:56 PM PDT by schwingdoc
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To: freespirited

I truly believe in American exceptionalism, and knew that the time would come when the left would have to show itself for what it is. I hear the sound of an approaching tidal wave- I think the demonRATs hear it, too. It is the only explanation for the hysterics and hyperbole coming from that dim side.

All the people ever need in this country is the right information and they will do the right thing. They are getting that info and they are seeing the true face of leftism. That is all it will take.


50 posted on 08/02/2011 12:17:14 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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