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Daley gave us a clue: Obama had a deal and Boehner and McConnell knew what it was.
CNN- Wolf Blitzer show ^ | 7/28/2011 | CNN

Posted on 08/02/2011 1:08:00 PM PDT by John S Mosby

On debt deal, Daley tells Blitzer: "We are optimistic"

CNN's Wolf Blitzer sat down in an exclusive interview with White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley to discuss the current debt negotiations.....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; daley; debt; obama
CNN show with William Daley WH Chief of Staff, admitting obama had a plan, and Boehner knew it. So did McConnell by this pattern. Daley, "the election fixer", Daley the "expert in hanging chads from Chicago". This is how they roll people. This is why congress people are lousy negotiators.

Boehner knew what obama's "deal" was and yet, continued to compromise with himself? Apparently to reach an endpoint previously agreed upon? This effort, CCB was tabled in the Senate,never voted on. And Senate repubs went along with it. Because McConnell played golf that day too, dontcha know. Stinks to high heaven.

Boehner had to throw a bone to new conservatives with BBA. A "must pass" for BBA was changed to "Senate will vote on/consider". Someone should have filibustered this. There was no default possible and NOT one now. But our debt rating will be downgraded and the hedge funds will do well. Hurry, Hurry just like TARP. Short selling the United States people and shorting them in so many other ways. Despicable.

Link to video with text below:http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/28/on-debt-deal-daley-tells-blitzer-we-are-optimistic/

1 posted on 08/02/2011 1:08:04 PM PDT by John S Mosby
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To: John S Mosby

If I were you I wouldn’t believe what Daley or any Chicago politician has to say.


2 posted on 08/02/2011 1:12:48 PM PDT by what's up
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To: John S Mosby

same evil party and stupid party.


3 posted on 08/02/2011 1:13:33 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: John S Mosby

That asshat Daley made the rounds on the weekly Sunday political shows not this past Sunday, but the Sunday BEFORE that even.

It’s amazing how easily we get played.


4 posted on 08/02/2011 1:14:43 PM PDT by library user (Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you're lazy.)
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To: John S Mosby

This deal might fool the dumber 95% of people on this planet, but the top 5% of the population that control the vast wealth of the US and world financial system know the collapse is now ordained, and inescapable.

The only solution now is the complete collapse of the US economy, or a military junta. There is no escaping the collapse, no escaping the collapse in purchasing power, no escaping a deflationary interlude then hyperinflationary crash and burn into the Sun,

A HappyMeal will cost $250 and a loaf of bread $90, and no one will have the calories, will or fortitude to care about the treason committed over the last 72 hours.


5 posted on 08/02/2011 1:15:05 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: John S Mosby
Three weeks ago the Reps had 0 by the short hairs. He was close to losing it and they backed down. *ussies.
6 posted on 08/02/2011 1:15:49 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: ken21
same evil party and stupid party.

And the bill is the usual compromise between the two parties: something both evil and stupid.

7 posted on 08/02/2011 1:17:49 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Repubs and Dems are arguing whether to pour 9 or 10 buckets of gasoline on a burning house.)
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To: what's up

Used the word clue. Something happened at the golf outing. The smoothness by which CCB was tabled without a fight,is immediately suspect. And, if BBA was more strongly fought for— this “deal” would be much more palatable. They kicked the can down the road. We need to document these liars, and take it to the political bank, today.

My main point is that given this potential knowledge (if true, and Daley is pure street scum from JP Morgan and Bush/Gore FL attempted “fix”, so I know who he is) it seems like all along Boehner and McConnell were dancing. The tune included the threats to SS payments and all the rest from the demo playbook. We were played, pure and simple.


8 posted on 08/02/2011 1:19:34 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Dems are being told to appoint those that will hold firm on entitlements.

So what will happens is
6 dems who will demand a tax hike
and either a RINO caves

or the trigger is enacted and Granny gets it.

Same threat they had this time.

The good news is that this will come out and people will start to understand in time for Boehner to get thrown out.


9 posted on 08/02/2011 1:21:06 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: John S Mosby
Let's face it, Obama saved us. We will have $17 trillion in debt, endless deficits and the Dems wanted to increase spending and raise taxes.

What more could we possibly want?

10 posted on 08/02/2011 1:21:14 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: mad_as_he$$

The whole GOP approach - including that of the grandstanding “Tea Party” newbies - was a joke. It revealed conservatives to be ignorant, fractured and completely uncoordinated. We were too busy shooting at each other to notice the real enemy.

The GOP did indeed blow it weeks ago, mostly when they backed off of Ryan’s very good plan.

People are blaming Boehner, btw, but I think McConnell was acting behind the scenes and is much more to blame.


11 posted on 08/02/2011 1:24:23 PM PDT by livius
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To: John S Mosby
What happened at the golf outing is that Obama needed to pretend to do his friendly bi-partisan bit for indies looking on. I'm not sure why golfing is so mysterious; Obama and Boehner have also met many times in the WH also.

Kasich was playing that day...Kasich is not one of the bad guys.

12 posted on 08/02/2011 1:26:30 PM PDT by what's up
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To: livius

Paul Ryan’s plan was worse than the current plan, sadly.
Ryan didn’t remove any funding for Defense, ever.
There was a single Republican plan presented that wasn’t biased towards the special interests of the plan sponsors’ largest contributors.
There is no representation of the American taxpayers in DC.
Dollars buy legislation,
voters are nothing more than bystanders and wayward onlookers in this orgy of hyper-inflationary collapse.


13 posted on 08/02/2011 1:29:30 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: John S Mosby; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...
This is what I was thinking, after weeks and weeks of seemingly going no-where that bill came together much too fast to believe that it was made up and worked out and put into a bill in a day or so. You almost have to wonder if all the back and forth fighting on taxes, and the CC+B votes as I pointed out before was just a drama show made up for us suckers (played up by cable TV) to make it easy to ram the real bill through with both party votes at the last minute. And Boehner's bill was meant to soften up the votes for the 'compromise' he know was coming. Remember, these are the TARP people in charge.

Reference from link:

BLITZER: So what you're saying is the president did present a plan to the speaker, John Boehner.

DALEY: Yes.

BLITZER: But - but he didn't make it public.

DALEY: No, because there's... both the speaker and - and the president had agreed and - that these sort of negotiations do not happen in public. There's not a plan out there in the public realm, whether it's the fiscal commission, whether it's the Gang of Six, whether it's Congressman Ryan's plan - Congressman Ryan's plan lost in the Senate overwhelmingly.
So there's no plan that's out there, by any of these people who are saying this, that has any sort of chance of passing both houses and getting signed by the president.

(Note : He is saying that if they didnt keep it secret it would get killed by either or both sides like all the others)

14 posted on 08/02/2011 1:35:46 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

I have no doubt that boner had the fix in from day one,.


15 posted on 08/02/2011 1:38:50 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: RummyChick
So what will happens is 6 dems who will demand a tax hike and either a RINO caves or the trigger is enacted and Granny gets it.

You left out some things.

7 Repubs could demand a cut. If a Dem doesn't cave, yes he causes granny to "get it" as you put it. I don't think the Dems are going to move too quickly to cause granny to get it.

16 posted on 08/02/2011 1:39:30 PM PDT by what's up
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To: ken21

The RATS may be evil, BUT THEY ARE NOT STUPID considering that they are intentionally destroying the country in order to remake it into their communist image.

Ask yourself which party is more successful in reaching their goal — the PUBS or the RATS?

It is the PUBS that are spineless and stupid and afraid to get down in the dirt to fight the RATS.


17 posted on 08/02/2011 1:41:02 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: John S Mosby

later read


18 posted on 08/02/2011 1:41:38 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: what's up

Will Never happen. They had the chance to do it this time around by standing strong on CCB. They caved

The threat of Granny gets always has them cowering in the corner.


19 posted on 08/02/2011 1:45:00 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: org.whodat

” I have no doubt that boner had the fix in from day one,.”

100% certain that he did.


20 posted on 08/02/2011 1:52:43 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: 353FMG

Oh, I don’t know. I’d say both parties got what they wanted. They got around the tea party, and they got to screw the public once again.


21 posted on 08/02/2011 1:55:22 PM PDT by Jess79
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To: RummyChick
Will Never happen

I noticed some of your predictions over the last while were not on the money so I doubt that you're a prophet of how the thing will play out.

Obama has not gotten the tax hikes he's been promising since before he got in office so I don't see that you should be believing him now.

22 posted on 08/02/2011 1:56:06 PM PDT by what's up
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To: 353FMG
The RATS may be evil, BUT THEY ARE NOT STUPID considering that they are intentionally destroying the country in order to remake it into their communist image.

Ask yourself which party is more successful in reaching their goal — the PUBS or the RATS?

It is the PUBS that are spineless and stupid and afraid to get down in the dirt to fight the RATS.

IMHO, both parties were successful because both parties have the same goal.

The Pubs are not spineless,they just agreed to play that part. You know: Good-cop/Bad-cop.

I'm pretty sure we are being played on a larger scale than we know, or want to believe.

23 posted on 08/02/2011 1:57:57 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: what's up

Example???


24 posted on 08/02/2011 2:06:35 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: KittenClaws

Yes, and that is why the Tea Party is so dangerous..but many of them even caved.

Were they duped or did they know what they were doing???

Don’t know yet.


25 posted on 08/02/2011 2:08:56 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: KittenClaws

Republicans remind me of “familiars” in Vampire shows, or characters like Patrick Dempsey’s in Transformers 3. They sell out to the evil overlords because they feel resistance is futile and the want to have their slice of the pie in the new order.


26 posted on 08/02/2011 2:15:20 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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27 posted on 08/02/2011 2:25:54 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: RummyChick
Yes, and that is why the Tea Party is so dangerous..but many of them even caved.

Were they duped or did they know what they were doing???

Don’t know yet.

One small thought leads me to many others: Enough of them caved.

Like I said, I think this is bigger than we can imagine:

Were enough of them threatened in the right way to make them cave?

Or, were those who caved just posing in order to infiltrate the Tea Party?

I realize this sounds all cloak, dagger and tinfoil hat, but I am really considering out-of-the box possibilities.

28 posted on 08/02/2011 2:33:01 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: MikeSteelBe
Republicans remind me of “familiars” in Vampire shows, or characters like Patrick Dempsey’s in Transformers 3. They sell out to the evil overlords because they feel resistance is futile and the want to have their slice of the pie in the new order.

I see Washington more along the lines of the Borg, from Star Trek, even Captain Picard was "absorbed".

29 posted on 08/02/2011 2:37:51 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: what's up

You’re right, it was Kasich. McConnell doesn’t play I guess.
Kasich is a good guy.

So the template is all on Boehner knowing. And Daley is a lying scum ward heeler from machine Chi-town.


30 posted on 08/02/2011 2:39:08 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: sickoflibs; John S Mosby; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...

"Obama who?"

31 posted on 08/02/2011 3:10:31 PM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: John S Mosby

a conservative sweep in 2012 is the only answer to these Washington shell games.


32 posted on 08/02/2011 4:26:04 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: John S Mosby
Why would you believe anything Daley says?

Filibuster defeated. 74 Senators voted for the bill, only 60 are needed to override a filibuster.

33 posted on 08/02/2011 5:24:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Next: coalescing behind ONE "Balanced Budget Amendment" (BBA))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Daley is incoherent, so to clarify — he’s pointing out that the properly publicly made proposals were shot down by the Party of the Single Party State, which controls the Senate for another 18 months or so. Thanks sickoflibs.


34 posted on 08/02/2011 5:49:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: KittenClaws
I realize this sounds all cloak, dagger and tinfoil hat, but I am really considering out-of-the box possibilities.

In IL, I think it's called "combine politics". Both parties work to screw the taxpayers. The media helps them.

35 posted on 08/02/2011 6:30:04 PM PDT by virgil
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To: sickoflibs
"(Note : He is saying that if they didnt keep it secret it would get killed by either or both sides like all the others)"
Our tax dollars at work./sarc.....
36 posted on 08/02/2011 8:25:43 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker
seems to me *somebody* mentioned kabuki type soap opera cliffhangers a few days ago...

these azzhats dont even try to make it look real anymore...its like pro wrestling, scripted from the gitgo and very dependent upon how good the 'actors' are as to whether it sells tickets [votes]...

and as always, in soaps, wresting or TARP/stimulus/QE1-infinity, theres has to be an epic battle and a cliffhanger/looming catastrophy to set the hook, then its just a matter of reelin in the big ones...

37 posted on 08/02/2011 8:55:02 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”, theres has to be an epic battle and a cliffhanger/looming catastrophy to set the hook..

Yes, the battle. We beat the Dems on this one kind of, sort of, well we didnt get stuck with more taxes anyway, they saved us from that, even if that was invented and never an issue. See it's like we just got another tax cut :) YAY!

So lets elect more RINOs like McCain and McConnell, and we will do even better next time.

38 posted on 08/02/2011 9:11:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs; Gilbo_3

” So lets elect more RINOs like McCain and McConnell, and we will do even better next time. “

Yo baby!


39 posted on 08/03/2011 7:04:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3
So lets elect more RINOs like McCain and McConnell, and we will do even better next time. “... Yo baby!'

I actually saw McConnell say that in an interview, I didnt even have to make that one up, he didnt use the word RINOs though, I HAD TO CLARIFY WHAT HE REALLY MEANS.

40 posted on 08/03/2011 7:14:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

If we don’t get rid of Boner and McFossil, nothing will change.


41 posted on 08/03/2011 7:20:32 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: newzjunkey

And the 74 who voted it down now may be labeled=

“Voted Against a Balanced Budget Amendment requiring the federal govt. to balance its budget and not spend more than it takes in or borrow what it cannot pay for.”


42 posted on 08/03/2011 1:59:23 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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