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School Board: Homeschooling Disorganized and Isolationist
Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) ^ | August 1, 2011 | HSLDA

Posted on 08/02/2011 3:11:40 PM PDT by Sopater

West Virginia’s Monongalia County Board of Education is proposing a new homeschool policy. In the document’s “statement of purpose,” the board refers to stale objections, which reveal a flawed and stereotyped view towards homeschooling. Despite the fact that homeschooling has decades worth of practical and scientific evidence documenting its success, there are still public school officials who re-use the same old criticism of homeschooling—teacher competency and socialization.

Here is the proposed policy’s first paragraph:

“Monongalia County Board of Education encourages the enrollment of all school-age children [who] are residents in Monongalia County or in registered parochial or private schools so that they may enjoy the benefits a of well-planned educational program and the socialization possible in a group environment.”

As if homeschooling programs are not well-planned or lack in providing “socialization” opportunities. The modern homeschool movement has been going on for 40 years and there is plenty of evidence showing that it not only works, but it actually works better than other forms of schooling. For resources that HSLDA has been involved with to show the benefits of homeschooling go to: HSLDA Homeschooling Research webpage or the HSLDA brochure, “The Best Kind of Socialization” (requires Adobe Acrobat Reader).

Mike Donnelly, HSLDA staff attorney for member affairs in West Virginia, encourages homeschool families to respond persuasively.

“It can be frustrating to continually address the same tired stereotypes—especially in the public context of a board of education policy review process. However, as we politely and persuasively point out the facts, we have the opportunity to open the minds of people who simply have not considered the arguments or who may not be aware of the evidence in favor of homeschooling. Take an opportunity to witness graciously to your elected officials and help them come to an accurate understanding of what homeschooling really is and the evidence that shows it works,” Donnelly wrote.

Membership with HSLDA allows families to unite and oppose efforts such as this that attack and erode homeschool freedom. When united, families can effectively defeat these attacks, advance the right to homeschool, and further awareness of the benefits of homeschooling.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: countryroad; frhf; homeschool; mountainmama; takemehome; westvirginia
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They obviously don't know much about homeschooling at the Monongalia County Board of Education.
1 posted on 08/02/2011 3:11:52 PM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Thou shall have no Gods before me, saith the state.


2 posted on 08/02/2011 3:17:42 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Sopater

As a college professor, I can certify that students who are home schooled are consistently at the top of the academic heap. Sadly, the majority of those who attended public schools are stupid and lazy (or, more likely, stupid because they are lazy).


3 posted on 08/02/2011 3:18:20 PM PDT by twhitak
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To: Sopater

Government schooling is regimented and fascist.


4 posted on 08/02/2011 3:19:24 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: YHAOS
Thou shall have no Gods before me, saith the state.

Render unto God the things that are God's saith the Lord.
5 posted on 08/02/2011 3:21:17 PM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: twhitak

It’s about $. A kid in school is worth $ to them.


6 posted on 08/02/2011 3:23:31 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Sopater

The primary object of public schools is to take control of children away from their parents and indoctrinate them. Simple as that. They make a hash of it, but it doesn’t matter. That’s educrats are all about.


7 posted on 08/02/2011 3:25:41 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: metmom

ping to metmom


8 posted on 08/02/2011 3:36:40 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Sopater
My wife and I spend years homeschooling our six children at a time it was in a quasi legal to do so we were under the radar (20 + years ago)

I may get some flak for the following statement: Sending your child to a government school in the vast majority of cases is a form of passive child abuse especially if you are a minority or send your child to a school which is primarily minority based

9 posted on 08/02/2011 3:45:09 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Sopater
Yeah, homeschooling is just terrible. /s
That's why those homeschoolers outperform public schoolers and win the national spelling bee so often.
10 posted on 08/02/2011 3:46:29 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: twhitak

“... home schooled are consistently at the top of the academic heap”.

I know two homeschooling Moms. I will honestly say that they are the most organized women that I know. Lists and calendars for everything... and I mean everything. They arrange laundry, food shopping, cleaning etc... around their children’s schedules. I asked, “what happens if an emergency doctor appointment arises?” Answer is simply the schedule is adjusted in the evening till it runs smoothly. To be honest, I wish I was more like that!


11 posted on 08/02/2011 3:52:37 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Sopater
School Board: "Homeschooling Disorganized and Isolationist"

(Plus, everyday they aren't in government school we lose out on federal money)

12 posted on 08/02/2011 3:52:45 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: Sopater
Despite the fact that homeschooling has decades worth of practical and scientific evidence documenting its success, there are still public school officials who re-use the same old criticism of homeschooling—teacher competency and socialization.

The re-use of the same old criticism demonstrates the ignorance of the school officials. Home schooling families get together to provide exceptional learning opportunities, far better than a teacher can provide. Home schooling families can plan and execute field trips at times convenient to them, ensuring a non watered down experience. Children are "socialized" via participation with other home schooling families (geography, math, writing clubs), church activities, Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts, plus the public life all children get.

Excellent material exists on the web and through home schooling organizations. Home schoolers start university courses early (local community college), being "dual enrolled" with high school.

Home schoolers excel in all aspects of learning, do well in college, and in life.

13 posted on 08/02/2011 3:58:53 PM PDT by olezip
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To: twhitak
As a college professor, I can certify that students who are home schooled are consistently at the top of the academic heap

That is very encouraging as my son and daughter i-l just announced there two daughters will be doing there Jr. and SR. high school years 'Home schooled.' I Have no data on what it is for those students who 'begin' homeschooling in their high school years. I do know the decision was made after almost two years of inquiring and research,as well as preparing the girls for this possibility. The girls are very excited that "finally" this is to be realized.

14 posted on 08/02/2011 3:59:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: Sopater
They didn't think of this themselves. This comes from the top.

WV State Superintendent: “Homeschoolers Need More Oversight”


15 posted on 08/02/2011 4:00:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Popman

Any hints on what a grandparent might do to help assist the parents?... since just learned my teen granddaughters will begin this year, and thru to end of high school, being homeschooled.


16 posted on 08/02/2011 4:02:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: olezip
The re-use of the same old criticism demonstrates the ignorance of the school officials.

Not ignorance. Greed.

Every home-schooled child represents federal money they don't get to collect.

17 posted on 08/02/2011 4:04:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Popman

I’m a member of the privileged class and I agree with you wholeheartedly.

I’d have been a far happier and well-adjusted child shoudl I have been educated right from the start at home.


18 posted on 08/02/2011 4:05:12 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: Popman
I may get some flak for the following statement: Sending your child to a government school in the vast majority of cases is a form of passive child abuse especially if you are a minority or send your child to a school which is primarily minority based

I've seen sending a child to public school compared to child abuse many times on FR. I am yet to see the poster receive any flak.

19 posted on 08/02/2011 4:07:01 PM PDT by magslinger (Senator Olo Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern (RINO))
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To: Sopater; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

I don't recall anyone asking for their opinion.

20 posted on 08/02/2011 4:07:37 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

When their methods which they believe to be organized and non-isolationist, produce results, they can get backt o us and criticize us.


21 posted on 08/02/2011 4:10:07 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Sopater

An alternative to HSLDA is HLA (Homeschool Legal Advantage). Don’t know much about it except it is affiliated with David Gibbs who represented the Schindlers in the Terri Schiavo case.

homeschoollegaladvantage.com


22 posted on 08/02/2011 4:10:07 PM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: Sopater

Does the NEA or the SEIU want to organize them now?


23 posted on 08/02/2011 4:10:07 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: caww

Get them passes to the local museums. They will enjoy that.


24 posted on 08/02/2011 4:10:56 PM PDT by msamizdat (The only justice is vigilante justice)
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To: caww

For organization and help building a high school transcript, I recommend www.donnayoung.org. And, it’s free.


25 posted on 08/02/2011 4:11:20 PM PDT by Excellence
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To: Sopater

The Leftists do want the children to be socialized in healthy way. They want them Socialized with collectivist indoctrination so they act more animals than human beings.


26 posted on 08/02/2011 4:13:40 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: caww

That’s a really open ended question.

How close to you are they? They sound like they’re old enough to be left on their own for brief periods so there’s not the need for babysitting if their mom needs to go somewhere.

Offer to help with grading schoolwork if what they do has an answer key. That’s the one part of homeschooling which I completely despised. Some people don’t mind it though.

What skills do you have that you could help? Writing? Music? Art? You could take them on field trips.


27 posted on 08/02/2011 4:13:47 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: msamizdat

Great idea! That goes on my list. Thanks.


28 posted on 08/02/2011 4:18:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: Sopater

Lying demon dims... kill the DoE and outlaw the NEA... and one day we will.

LLS


29 posted on 08/02/2011 4:19:32 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (juan mccain certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: metmom

They’re 13 and 14 and live 45 minutes away from me. They are well rounded girls also. No, babysitting is not needed as they also have an older sister who has already graduated.

I’ve already thought of taking them on a tour of my workplace to see how product arrives at the warehouse all the way thru to the sales floor. If the company will allow that. It was also mentioned to let them see the payroll office and how deductions are made etc. Which is really a good idea I thought.

Distance does create a problem, as well as my work schedule, but for field trips I can schedule around those.


30 posted on 08/02/2011 4:24:52 PM PDT by caww
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To: metmom

Didn’t know there was a homeschool ping list but I sure will get on it.


31 posted on 08/02/2011 4:26:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: Sopater

... And public schooling is so successful that jay Leno can’t find any idiots to interview on jaywalking any more...


32 posted on 08/02/2011 4:29:49 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Herds are controllable. Individuals are troublesome to those who wish to control them. Intelligence is an attribute of individuals, and not of herds. As is Liberty.

The proper purpose of education is to transmit the best known human knowledge, promote societal values, and permit each individual to do their best in peaceful competition and voluntary cooperation with each other. Most of those who today pose as "educators" are more committed to political indoctrination than to anything resembling education.

33 posted on 08/02/2011 4:36:27 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: caww

Grandparents can encourage!! Be proud of your kids’ decision and ask if there is anything else you can do. The first year is the hardest, the parents might get overwhelmed, and tell them to keep trying. It doesn’t have to be perfect and it doesn’t have to look like any other family’s homeschooling.

Find out what the kids are studying and offer to take one on a related field trip. Find out what they love (music, a sport,etc) and get tickets for you and each child where they can see experts doing it.

Just support them. I had horrible public and private school experiences, yet my parents are wholly unsupportive of my homeschooling my kids. They would be so happy if my kids were in the local hellish urban school. It makes no sense. My guys can’t get drugs or see gangbangers in my house, butGrandma would rather have them where such is rampant. Going to school is seen as more normal. Can’t get it through their heads.


34 posted on 08/02/2011 4:38:01 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: twhitak
As a high school teacher I concur, and that is why my husband and I homeschool our children. When my comrades ask how they will get their socialization skills I tell them that their father will once a month take them to the bathroom, beat them up, and then try to sell them drugs. We had two broken jaws from two different fights last school year. Both of the students with broken jaws were attacked from behind, but were also suspended because of our “zero tolerance” policy. The school suspended the attackers according to our worthless progressive discipline policy, but they were later moved to our alternative school when the parents of the attacked students hired lawyers. Our alternative school, by the way, is taught by our most experienced football coaches.
35 posted on 08/02/2011 4:38:57 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: caww; metmom

You don’t get on it unless she puts you on it. Ask her nice.


36 posted on 08/02/2011 4:39:34 PM PDT by magslinger (Senator Olo Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern (RINO))
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To: caww
Since you are a grandparent, maybe you can offer to teach them some american history lessons

....since you probably lived though some of it... LOL

I certainly hope the teens parents are fully prepared to home-school....it is not for the fainthearted

37 posted on 08/02/2011 4:39:37 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: caww; metmom

You don’t get on it unless she puts you on it. Ask her nice.


38 posted on 08/02/2011 4:40:39 PM PDT by magslinger (Senator Olo Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern (RINO))
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To: Excellence

Hey, thanks for that link! My son needs to start his transcript. Awesome.


39 posted on 08/02/2011 4:45:30 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

I did some research about homeschooling when my family first mentioned it some years ago. I was convinced it was a good thing then and all the more now.

I’m sorry your parents aren’t as supportive as you’d like. But from all I’ve read kids that are homeschooled are far better off and seem to excell much better than those from the school systems.

The girls will remain active in school events etc. so their social developement will not at all be hindered as some like to speak of. Plus they have activities which are not school related as well.


40 posted on 08/02/2011 4:45:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: Popman
I certainly hope the teens parents are fully prepared to home-school....it is not for the fainthearted

My daughter-in-law has already instructed classes in her nursing profession, as well as other classes she's subbed. So I am confident she will do well. She's also disciplined which I think will carry her over some of the humps along the way. Also the girls are good kids and that's always a plus.

I really like the idea of American history....I could indeed be a "special guest speaker for the day" maybe. Maybe even some politics since our current events are certainy interesting.

41 posted on 08/02/2011 4:53:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: Excellence

Though I am certain my daughter-in-law has much information I have saved these links for her and will offer them....my son too who will be active in this as he can. He’s a science math nut so he’s looking forward to assisting some special classes himself.

Thank you


42 posted on 08/02/2011 4:56:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: ArrogantBustard

But other than that, what’s the problem?


43 posted on 08/02/2011 5:00:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Do you know why I love reptiles? It's because they don't play guitars.)
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To: magslinger

I think I’ve already had some conversation with her since I first announced this news on another thread. She was helful and encouraging then. But I’m not the parents doing this and am careful not to be intrusive with my opinions. I learned long ago your children want your support far more than your opinions so you have to give those opinions in a supportive fashion.

Not certain the homeschooling ping would be as helpful for a grand parent as much as perhaps just posting any questions I might have to those who are on it...might be a better idea.


44 posted on 08/02/2011 5:01:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: Sopater

The usual marxist bilge...


45 posted on 08/02/2011 5:04:55 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Sopater

This is strictly about losing capitation money. The districts are desperate.

Government education must be ended.


46 posted on 08/02/2011 5:10:37 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: caww

They could maybe spend the night with you, make it more worthwhile to make the drive, although, where we live, everything is a minimum half hour drive away, so 45 mins is nothing to us.

Yes, I do have a homeschool ping list and will put you on.


47 posted on 08/02/2011 5:11:57 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Yaelle

Another “out” is that grandparents can skip inheritance taxes and pay for private school fees for their grandchildren. If homeschooling isn’t practical but the kids want their kids out of public school, grandparents can write that check and help kids escape from the public system.
It also takes away from the public system while helping the private sector alternative.


48 posted on 08/02/2011 5:18:18 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: goodwithagun
When my comrades ask how they will get their socialization skills I tell them that their father will once a month take them to the bathroom, beat them up, and then try to sell them drugs.

That's a good one and I'm going to use it when that issue comes up again! Good one!

I have a three year old grandson in my other sons family and from the day they knew she was expecting the secision was made to homeschool him from the get go.

Course it helps he has a brother- in- law with five kids who have all been homeschooled. Amazing kids and well grounded in every way.

49 posted on 08/02/2011 5:23:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: metmom

I agree an overnight would be great! It’s always nice too when this gives my son and daughter-in-law time to themselves.

It’s not so much the drive time as it is work schedules...then the drive time does come into play....and of course the girls have their numerous activities at school...and they are busy doing that. So I see a fied trip as a way for me to have them for a day...the silver lining in all this for me! tsk tsk....

Oh good! Thanks for putting me on that list. I can always share with my grand-daughter too. Though she does seem to be very informed.


50 posted on 08/02/2011 5:30:20 PM PDT by caww
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