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Experts say Obama certificate not scan of original Document
WorldNetDaily ^ | August 2, 2011 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 08/02/2011 9:20:47 PM PDT by tunedin

Detailed technical analysis of the PDF file the White House released April 27 indicates it is not a scan of the original document, as claimed by the White House, but instead is the final form of an electronic file used to forge the birth certificate on Adobe software, according to reports by experts.

Failure to demonstrate how a simple computer scan can produce the effects observed in the Obama birth certificate PDF lends support to arguments that the Obama birth certificate is a forgery, the experts contend.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birther; corsi; hopespringseternal; thistimeforsure; wnd
Detailed description at link discussing OCR software and PDF optimization. Much technical knowledge but no answers as to its origin.
1 posted on 08/02/2011 9:20:51 PM PDT by tunedin
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2 posted on 08/02/2011 9:28:36 PM PDT by null and void (Day 922. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: tunedin
OCR software

What planet did the subject of OCR in connection with the COLB come from. There is NO TEXT in the .pdf, only illustrations. OCR software cleans up image to text. The text in the images are poor quality.. OCR connection is total nonsense.

3 posted on 08/02/2011 9:35:23 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: tunedin

That people do not care is the topic.

MSM has not listed it as such let alone no one here has done so.

Sigh.


4 posted on 08/02/2011 9:45:20 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Texas Fossil
OCR software

What planet did the subject of OCR in connection with the COLB come from. There is NO TEXT in the .pdf, only illustrations. OCR software cleans up image to text. The text in the images are poor quality.. OCR connection is total nonsense.

I think the gist of the argument is a scan is only needed to provide a copy of a legitimate electronic document. The experts found evidence of OCR in the process. the OCR would be from a non Obama COLB. The change is made to the recognized text to forge a COLB. The document is then printed back to Adobe to remove the recognized text and produce what appears to be a scan. So you won;'t find text in the final document, but if you know the forensics you can find traces of OCR which has no purpose in a legitimate scan. I come from this planet.

5 posted on 08/02/2011 10:18:45 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: All

Newsflash: Everything about Obama is a fake, a fraud, a phony.


6 posted on 08/02/2011 10:20:33 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie. Anger a Liberal by telling the truth. - RWR)
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To: tunedin

The only logical and overwhelmingly clear conclusion to be reached from all of this is that the fate of our country rests solely in the hands of God.

Only Satan himself can pull off this level of deception, and ONLY GOD can free us from it.


7 posted on 08/02/2011 10:29:11 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Fractal Trader; Red Steel; rxsid; LucyT; melancholy
Rats! Looks like “Derek” of “Derek's pdf” is confirmed by Corsi to NOT be the Derek in the Obama WH but rather some unknown software geek whose name shows up on lots of unrelated pdf files elsewhere.
8 posted on 08/02/2011 10:46:08 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: tunedin

NO SHIP!


9 posted on 08/02/2011 10:49:45 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

Unfortunately, people do not have a good grasp of how important it is to be constitutionally eligible and the media isn’t interested in making people understand.

The only way you’re going to get Obama is on his policies and it’s a good thing he is giving plenty of ammunition in that area.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 11:17:16 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
but if you know the forensics

Some of the Obots were uttering nonsense gibberish about OCR software in the beginning of the analysis. I could see OCR being used on another document to use as the basis of a forgery, but the "text" is not the issue. The type (as in typewriters), signatures and form blocks are what they had to paste together. OCR might explain the "x" instead of "h" in the word "the" in the certification block.

Not just the COLB but every thing about Obozo is phone, forged or made up. He is a total FRAUD. And all 3 branches of government know it. Now the question. WHY no action.

11 posted on 08/02/2011 11:41:53 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil; null and void; LoneRangerMassachusetts; Rodney Dangerfield; LucyT
Not just the COLB but every thing about Obozo is phone, forged or made up. He is a total FRAUD. And all 3 branches of government know it. Now the question. WHY no action.

It's amazing, isn't it? I think it's because people who support BO are immune to reason. BO isn't a fact. BO is a feeling, an image, an idea. People who support BO are supporting some image of idealism in themselves that has nothing to do with the reality in front of them and taking action on that reality. It's going to take something big to grab these people by the shoulders and give them a good shaking up. What they need is a good bracing slap in the face.

12 posted on 08/03/2011 12:15:00 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
Newsflash: Everything about Obama is a fake, a fraud, a phony.

It's obvious to anyone with an IQ even approaching room temperature that Obama is fraud after fraud. The question is:

WHY?

The answer is just as obvious but Americans have been brainwashed such that they can no longer think independently.

Barry things the Muslim call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth. That is a strange thing to say by a Christian, don't you think?

Barry DEMANDS Israel withdraw to pre-1967 borders.

Barry wants Egypt to have US Tanks. WHY?

Barry forgives $Billions of Egyptian debt, WHY?

Barry secretly meeting with Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, WHY?

Barry is using the US Military to support Libyan rebels? WHY?

Oh come on, that's EASY. Libyan rebels are Al Qaeda. Muslim Brotherhood is sworn to destroy Israel. US Tanks used by Egyptians will be used to attack Israel with indefendable pre-1967 borders.

Nothing Barry has done has been to help the US. These SURPRISINGLY bad economic numbers are MUSIC to Obama's ears. The clown is playing a liberal hack while actually doing the work any Muslim Manchurian candidate would do.

Destroy the US economy, doing a great job there

Lay the foundation for a race war, doing a great job there.

Prevent oil drilling sending $BIllions overseas.

Open US borders to overload our welfare/school/medical; doing a great job there.

Obama is laughing at these idiots known as Americans.

13 posted on 08/03/2011 12:18:18 AM PDT by politicianslie (Democrats are COMMUNIST, Repubs are SOCIALIST, and Barry's a Muslim manipulating USEFUL RINO IDIOTS)
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To: tunedin

I am completely shocked to hear that something about Obama might be fake.

(It’s not exactly a man-bites-dog story, is it?)


14 posted on 08/03/2011 12:21:51 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: politicianslie

You are absolutely 100% correct. Any sane and/or educated person should be able to see Obama is pure Muslim. Nothing you mentioned that he has done since being in office has been for America’s benefit.

I also agree than many Americans have been nrainwashed over time. It is just like to cults where brainwashed people would even deny there own families.


15 posted on 08/03/2011 12:56:12 AM PDT by neverbluffer
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To: Safrguns
The only logical and overwhelmingly clear conclusion to be reached from all of this is that the fate of our country rests solely in the hands of God. Only Satan himself can pull off this level of deception, and ONLY GOD can free us from it.

9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

16 posted on 08/03/2011 1:09:03 AM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Talisker

I don’t see how that reference relates.
1. there are no signs or wonders as of yet... just deception
2. rapture has not occurred yet... the antichrist has not been revealed.

I think that the scripture which references “as in the days of Noah...” fits better as to where we are... just before the rapture and revealing. Not sure, but it may even be somewhere prior to your reference.

However... that takes us way off topic.


17 posted on 08/03/2011 1:17:45 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns
I don’t see how that reference relates. 1. there are no signs or wonders as of yet... just deception 2. rapture has not occurred yet... the antichrist has not been revealed.

I see the success of the current deception as the result of "displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie" in people who (spiritually) "perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved." And as the quote goes on to say, "for this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie." And why? Payback for their deliberate, arrogant, indulgence in evil, "so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness." And if you can't see "lawlessness in accordance with how Satan works" in the operations of the Obama administration, your eyes are closed.

As for "the antichrist" being "revealed" - who would recognize it if they live amongst a population who are "under a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie"? It could be in plain sight right now. Everyone always assumes they would know, but how? What if it wasn't announced? What if you had to recognize it for yourself? And if you didn't, would that mean it wasn't there?

Remember, "ye shall know them by their fruits." And look at the fruits these days!

18 posted on 08/03/2011 2:31:04 AM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: stanne

I care and so do a lot of others. We have been making noise about this since the usurper n chief took office. The problem is, no one listens!


19 posted on 08/03/2011 4:12:20 AM PDT by Bowtie52
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To: Texas Fossil
Not true. Optical character recognition was invented with canning paper documents in mind and further editing was required.

Here's a couple of sources for the mechanics of OCR if you're interested:

How OCR Software Works

Character Recognition by Feature Point Extraction

20 posted on 08/03/2011 6:07:54 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Not true. Optical Character Recognition (OCR) was invented with scanning paper documents in mind where further editing was required.

Here's a couple of sources for the mechanics of OCR if you're interested:

How OCR Software Works

Character Recognition by Feature Point Extraction

21 posted on 08/03/2011 6:09:04 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Freeport

Huh... Not sure why it double posted...


22 posted on 08/03/2011 6:09:35 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Freeport

You are correct.

I know what OCR is for. But I don’t see how OCR could be used to forge his COLB. OCR extracts text and cleans up the quality of text recovered from an image document. (not without errors)

The COLB should be from a single document (which this is obviously not).


23 posted on 08/03/2011 6:24:48 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Talisker

>>> I see the success of the current deception as the result of “displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie” in people who (spiritually) “perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.”

Signs and wonders are supernatural in nature... events that are intended to prove existence of God. Mass hypnosis and deception has been around for a LONG time. Based upon your attribution of this phenomenon to end times, the Holocaust and Hitler’s reign places us today somewhere in the millennium of peace.

“The Lie” referred to in your scripture reference deals directly with who Jesus is and what He came here for... not politics.


24 posted on 08/03/2011 6:28:27 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Texas Fossil; LoneRangerMassachusetts; LucyT
Now the question. WHY no action.

There should be some action taken in five days, IF Orly and her company can get safely to Hawaii!!!

Her avid FReeper attackers have been very AWOL???

25 posted on 08/03/2011 8:37:26 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: tunedin

I wonder if WND has ever done a feature article on Zero’s father, a foreigner, and the fact that a natural born American eligible to be POTUS has 2 American parents AND is born in the USA.

The spectacle of an obvious usurper parading around as president (and a dangerously horrible one at that) is...is there a word for this debacle? Outrageous? Sickening? Dangerous? Destructive? The worst presidency ever, that’s for sure.

He’s told the world his father was a Kenyan. Yet the entire world does not say “Hey bub, you can’t be president”. He gets away with it because the parent that made him ineligible also gave him the right amount of melanin to make him untouchable, even in regards to the requirements to be the leader of the free world.


26 posted on 08/03/2011 8:42:41 AM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Resisting Tyranny Since 1-20-2009)
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To: thecodont; Texas Fossil; null and void; LoneRangerMassachusetts; Rodney Dangerfield; LucyT
Lately I've tried to discuss the issue with a liberal Lutheran guy on facebook, who constantly refuses to "listening" and every time brush it off referring it to a "Urban Legend," the way Jack Maskell served the cool-aid to 535 "Jim Jones follower" alike in Congress!

The black robes was taken care of on January 14, 2009!!

The media had no need to be taken "care" of, they have been there all along with a socialistic agenda on their plate!!!

27 posted on 08/03/2011 8:48:26 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: politicianslie; Rodney Dangerfield
He has been extremely successful in what he promised and set out to do!!!

FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA???

28 posted on 08/03/2011 8:53:40 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: politicianslie; Rodney Dangerfield
He has been extremely successful in what he promised and set out to do!!!

FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA???

29 posted on 08/03/2011 8:54:10 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: tunedin

Tell me something I didn’t already know. Of course it’s phony. We all know that..now the question is why did he need to create a phony birth certificate?


30 posted on 08/03/2011 8:55:07 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: mojitojoe; tunedin
.now the question is why did he need to create a phony birth certificate?

Because Jerome Corsi's book became an instant #1 on amazon.com long before final printing. Then Donald Trump stepped into the fry and crowed loudly so even the dung-head media took notes. The hot oil was about to run over!!!

31 posted on 08/03/2011 9:06:08 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: thecodont
BO isn't a fact. BO is a feeling, an image, an idea. People who support BO are supporting some image of idealism in themselves that has nothing to do with the reality in front

Hmmm. Good point.

We've been approaching the problem from the side of reason with inherently non-reasoning people.

We need to destabilize their feeeeeling towards him.

32 posted on 08/03/2011 9:19:31 AM PDT by null and void (Day 923. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: Safrguns

Satan’s dress rehearsal?


33 posted on 08/03/2011 9:22:46 AM PDT by null and void (Day 923. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: null and void

More like a fording operation... or a minefield clearing operation.

Israel is the real target... the US has traditionally been in the way.

BO is just a tool to clear the way... totally expendable.


34 posted on 08/03/2011 9:29:12 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

Yep. I find the USofA nowhere in the Final Battle.

We must be rendered irrelevant before that event.


35 posted on 08/03/2011 9:31:23 AM PDT by null and void (Day 923. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: tunedin

Nothing new about this. The work has already been done by numerous other people. But it’s certainly true. No way in hell that this is a copy of a single paper document. It is clearly a forgery.

And Obama didn’t even bother to have his guys put together a very good forgery. It’s amateurish.


36 posted on 08/03/2011 12:31:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Bowtie52

Touche; I certainly overstated my case.


37 posted on 08/04/2011 1:33:59 PM PDT by stanne
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To: tunedin

read later.


38 posted on 08/05/2011 8:45:17 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: null and void

Well who ever thought Othugo would ever release anything honest. Certainly not me. It appears to me however, that this issue is going to buried no matter what. Nobody but nobody in a position to do anything about it is willing to do anything about it. The only thing that can happen is he has to be voted out. But even there, I, for one, do NOT believe that the next election will be honest or fair or legal or...... ya know. The cheat machine is being well oiled already. Nothing will change this situation other than a death or a revolution. Sigh!! CO


39 posted on 08/05/2011 5:58:49 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: danamco

Certainly he is transforming America but not for anything Good. He is a total DISASTER. I literally can’t STAND the creep. Can’t watch or listen to him. Can’t stand his choppy talking as he switches from one teleprompter to another. He’s the worst ever. Wake up America. Each time I hear a supporter I have to just write them off as a deceived individual. They are defintely not a thinker. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would figure this dude out. Sad to see such a great country just keep sliding down the slope. CO


40 posted on 08/05/2011 6:03:41 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Hard to say what will happen at this point. His popularity is plunging on a daily basis, it’s very possible that his disaffected supporters will want him out out out.

The BC issue would give them a legal and Constitutional way to peacefully remove him from office.

Not a pretty way, to be sure, but the alternatives are much worse.


41 posted on 08/05/2011 7:03:31 PM PDT by null and void (Day 925. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: null and void; LucyT
My wife screams very loudly when TOTUS shows on the screen: "Traitor, Satan, Foreigner, etc.!

I have a feeling next week some drastic revelation will be presented!!

A RAT & snake has jumped off the sinking "ship". From Wikipedia, hmmm:>>>On Thursday, June 2, 2011, the White House Press Office stated that Bauer would be returning to private practice at Perkins Cole, and that Principal Deputy Counsel to the President Kathryn Ruemmler (his deputy, in that office since January of 2010 and before that since January 2009 as Principal Associate Deputy U.S. Attorney General) would succeed him. The position, because it is part of the Executive Office staff that personally advises the President and is not an agency or Cabinet department or military head, does not require Senate confirmation despite the prominence of the office. She will take over at the end of June 2011. Bauer will return to private practice, where he once again will represent the president’s election team and the Democratic National Committee. “Bob was a critical member of the White House team,” Mr. Obama said. “He has exceptional judgment, wisdom and intellect, and he will continue to be one of my close advisers.”!!!

42 posted on 08/06/2011 8:31:16 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

I like her...


43 posted on 08/06/2011 8:32:57 AM PDT by null and void (Day 926. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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