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Father charged with molesting daughter, 9, at Selena Gomez concert in St. Augustine
Florida Times-Union ^ | August 1, 2011 | Jim Schoettler

Posted on 08/02/2011 9:38:01 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby

Police charged a man with molesting his 9-year-old daughter at the sold-out Selena Gomez concert in St. Augustine Sunday night.

Several women sitting behind the 52-year-old father and daughter alerted volunteers at the St. Augustine Amphitheatre about what they considered inappropriate touching. The volunteers told police, who arrested the man after he became aggressive with them and initially wouldn't let them talk to his daughter.

The Times-Union is not identifying the father to protect the girl's identity.

The man was charged with lewd and lascivious molestation on a victim under 12. He is being held in the St. Johns County jail on $10,000 bail and has been ordered to stay away from his daughter if released.

A police report obtained by the Times-Union said one woman saw the man rubbing the girl's arms, playing with her hair and kissing her on the neck, arms and face. She also said she spotted him fondling her below the waist.

A second woman told police she saw him rub her arms and back and playing with her hair. She said she then saw him kiss her neck, shoulders and try to kiss her on the lips. She also saw him fondle her chest.

(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: incest; pedophile; sexabuse

1 posted on 08/02/2011 9:38:08 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Why is every car chase in California, and every pedophile in Florida?


2 posted on 08/02/2011 9:46:07 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Must be either the climate or the water.


3 posted on 08/02/2011 9:47:17 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Right up to the “fondling of her chest” (which may not have been true at all), I suspect 95% of all dads have done the other stuff. As for the kissing, there is a big difference between a little peck and french kissing; which was it?


4 posted on 08/02/2011 9:49:30 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Hmmmmm....More to this story for $1000, Alex.


5 posted on 08/02/2011 9:52:02 PM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I don’t see anything strange about most of this behavior....some fathers are just very affectionate.

But, the ‘groping’ part is weird if it is actually that.


6 posted on 08/02/2011 9:54:33 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: rwfromkansas

‘If’ is the big question. Were the two witnesses NOW hag lesbos?


7 posted on 08/02/2011 10:03:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (No dark sarcasm in the press room ... Hey!, Barry!, leave them bills alone.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I don’t believe it. Molesters are known for their sneakiness.


8 posted on 08/02/2011 10:16:13 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: TigersEye
‘If’ is the big question. Were the two witnesses NOW hag lesbos?

Or they saw what they wanted to see. There's not enough in this article; it should not have even been printed without more facts because of the potential damage it could do.

9 posted on 08/02/2011 10:18:26 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
I wasn't there and can not attest to the man's behavior one way or the other.

However, there is a significant percentage of the population that now believes that any adult male in the presence of a child is to be assumed to be a child molester and can not be proven innocent.

10 posted on 08/02/2011 10:26:28 PM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: Salvavida

I agree. I can’t tell from this but some people just don’t like seeing other people be happy. It probably shouldn’t be news until charges are filed.


11 posted on 08/02/2011 10:36:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (No dark sarcasm in the press room ... Hey!, Barry!, leave them bills alone.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Sounds like the misandrist biddy brigade in action. But I could be wrong.


12 posted on 08/02/2011 10:38:50 PM PDT by TChad
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To: MNDude

It is true that pedophiles are experts on manipulating kids so they don’t tell and feel responsible for what is happening to them.

But sometimes they get real full of themselves and convience themselves that “loving” their little girl is as normal as any other alternative sexual lifestyle. They tell themselves anything goes now.

Commericals, fashion, and the public schools are sexualizing little boys and girls...They tell themselves the kids are loving the sexual relationship with them. As they cruise the internet with their “child sex community” everyone thinks it’s sexy and wonderful for the kidos. Who’s to judge?

They are twisted self centered freaks who feed off one another.


13 posted on 08/02/2011 10:39:39 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: TChad

Either he is an incredibly bold molester, or he is a father who communicates his love for his daughter through touch.

So long as the touch was appropriate, then may he be absolved of wrongdoing. If he did touch her inappropriately, then the authorities should throw the book at him.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 11:06:49 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: EEGator

Want to scare the crap out of yourself? Look up in any sex offender registry, (I went to the county sherriff website) and you will find several pretty close to you, unless you live in a 1 person town. I live in a city of like 2500, and there are like 60+ in the town, and surrounding area. (These are the ones we know about, the ones who ACTUALLY register.) I realize that they all dont like kids, but still, it is frightening.


15 posted on 08/02/2011 11:32:27 PM PDT by ConservativeChris
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To: SeaHawkFan

I would fit in that 95% on occasion. I hope this dad is innocent. I’ve read some crazy stories where parents have been railroaded by overzealous officials and witnesses. I pray truth prevails.


16 posted on 08/02/2011 11:34:53 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Must be a school teacher? or TSA agent?


17 posted on 08/02/2011 11:40:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

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18 posted on 08/02/2011 11:41:39 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Immerito
Either he is an incredibly bold molester, or he is a father who communicates his love for his daughter through touch.

I have a friend who is one of the latter types. His four year old daughter seems to love to be tossed around -- being held upside down by her ankles, riding on his shoulders, and so on. They almost wrestle with each other, and she can't stop giggling while he doing it. When he puts her down, it's "Daddy pick me up!!!"

I'm sure that some misandrists would interpret such physicality as evidence of molestation. It's not, and they are mentally ill.

19 posted on 08/03/2011 12:32:03 AM PDT by TChad
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To: EEGator
Why is every car chase in California, and every pedophile in Florida?

It's our excellent freeway system. Car chases through swampland end quickly because the bridge is almost always out and all of the chasing police cars end up landing in the water. California's state-of-the-art freeway system allows for a slow, comfortable ride for hundreds of miles in a straight line while CHP provides a courtesy escort until the news ratings are high enough, then they side swipe you, tackle you, and electrocute you as they beat you to death.
20 posted on 08/03/2011 1:00:36 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Shoot, this kind of “loving” well might have been inappropriate in public, but how do you tell where fond play leaves off and molestation begins? I hope they don’t try to manipulate the girl into telling tall tales. Now if he’s been toying sexually with her privates that’s another story. But a nine year old girl will have the same kind of chest that a boy of that age will. Big breasts don’t develop until puberty.


21 posted on 08/03/2011 2:39:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page))
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To: SeaHawkFan

wtf?

was he being affectionate with his daughter or molesting her?

i would absolutely FREAK OUT if some busybody know it all (probably a libtard) were to see me hug or kiss my little angels and DEMAND to speak with them alone- they would be terrified and I would NOT be a happy camper...

I hope it is innocent and he SUES THE HELL out of everyone involved - and wins

starting with the busybodies


22 posted on 08/03/2011 2:44:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I am not rushing to judgement on this one. Petting your own child’s hair isn’t a crime, neither is kissing her on the lips. These are innocent expressions of affection most of the time. The fondling, if true would implicate him as a molester, but there may be something else going on here. This doesn’t add up. Child molesters are usually not that brazen in public.

It seems the guy recently had a divorce. Is there something to that? Who are these ladies making the accusations?

I have not convicted the guy until more facts come to light.

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.


23 posted on 08/03/2011 3:23:43 AM PDT by lmr
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To: GeronL
TSA agent?

LOL. funny....but true. maybe i should call police if i'm in line at airport security and see some of those exact things happening...and by a stranger?

24 posted on 08/03/2011 3:30:00 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: EEGator
Why is every car chase in California, and every pedophile in Florida.

We also have an assortment of other types of crackpots here. Every time there's a totally crazy story I check to see if it's dateline Florida - usually is...

25 posted on 08/03/2011 3:34:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/198-the-essential-rules-of-tyranny)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I almost got stuck taking my daughter to a Selena Gomez concert this week, but fortunately, she was already scheduled to go to camp. Whew!


26 posted on 08/03/2011 4:38:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Do you know why I love reptiles? It's because they don't play guitars.)
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To: catbertz
I pray truth prevails.

As do I.
Father and daughter will be separated, the daughter turned over to Child Protective Services and the father taken to jail. What if police and social workers convince the little girl she really was molested?

27 posted on 08/03/2011 5:17:22 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: ConservativeChris

Good advice!! My husband and I did this right after our daughter was born and we were shocked at how many and how close they were. I hope you tell your friends and relatives to do the same thing you did and check that registry out. One good thing our local public school district did was to provide a link to the state’s sex-offender data base from the district’s website.


28 posted on 08/03/2011 5:22:31 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-4-08 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: GOPJ

I’m currently living in wonderful Alachua County. Lots of special people here.


29 posted on 08/03/2011 6:34:29 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

You’re a gator? Cool. I live in the county that arrested 8 senior citizens for playing poker in a trailer park recreation center... Some time back a freeper made a list of some of the crazy things that happened in Florida. When he was done I conceded he was right - lots of nuts here....


30 posted on 08/03/2011 10:33:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (This “wussification” of America is an on-going phenomenon.- freeper rokkitapps)
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To: EEGator

So things haven’t changed since I was there, eh?


31 posted on 08/03/2011 10:35:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Rubbing back, playing with hair, ok. Kissing on neck and lips? Uhhhh....

Fondling her chest and below the waist? Creepy!

Most people don’t get involved so it had to be pretty obvious. Molesters are crazy and many think their behavior is perfectly normal so I can see why it happened in public.

Kissing on the lips is a little too familiar at any age. A forehead or cheek is more parental. Sounds fishy to me, but of course, innocent until proven guilty!


32 posted on 08/03/2011 10:42:09 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: dfwgator

Probably not. I try not to go more than 2 blocks away from campus. Lots of crazy people “hangin’” in Bo Diddley Square. My trip from Gainesville to Jacksonville reminds me why I’m working so hard in school.


33 posted on 08/03/2011 10:42:41 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: GOPJ

It must be the strong sun rays or something similar. Florida is loaded with at least 500 episodes of COPS.


34 posted on 08/03/2011 10:45:23 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: GatorGirl
Most people don’t get involved so it had to be pretty obvious. Molesters are crazy and many think their behavior is perfectly normal so I can see why it happened in public.

Kissing on the lips is a little too familiar at any age. A forehead or cheek is more parental. Sounds fishy to me, but of course, innocent until proven guilty!
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Agreed. This does not sound like normal father affection to me either.
My husband is also very affectionate with our girls. However, it's pats to the head or back, picking them up when he comes home from work, ect.

If some guy is caressing his daughter, kissing her neck and rubbing her all over......YUK. I would have reported him too.
Sorry guys, it doesn't matter if you really didn't mean anything by it. It's creepy and inappropriate.

35 posted on 08/03/2011 11:11:08 AM PDT by kara37
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To: kara37

I agree. Kissing (was it a peck or a slurp and rubbing and touching the chest area is creepy and not normal.


36 posted on 08/03/2011 12:49:45 PM PDT by stellaluna
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