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Rapid City police: 1 officer dead, 2 injured
AP/WorldMag ^ | Aug 2, 11:53 PM EDT

Posted on 08/02/2011 9:39:54 PM PDT by quantim

RAPID CITY, S.D (AP) -- A western South Dakota police officer was killed and two others were seriously wounded after a shootout with a man during a routine stop, authorities said late Tuesday.

Officer James Ryan McCandless, 28, was pronounced dead at a local hospital, Rapid City Police Chief Steve Allender said. Officer Nick Armstrong, 27, was in critical condition after undergoing surgery, and the third officer, who was shot in the side of the face, was listed as stable. His name hasn't been released.

Gunfire erupted about 10 minutes after the three officers approached four people at an intersection. Allender wouldn't say exactly what the four people were doing, only that their behavior was "suspicious" and that alcohol may have been involved. One man pulled a gun and fired several shots, Allender said.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: officerdown; policeshooting; waroncops
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1 posted on 08/02/2011 9:39:56 PM PDT by quantim
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To: quantim

Another member of our line of defense loses his life. Prayers up for his family.


2 posted on 08/02/2011 9:43:43 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: quantim

There is a lot of this weird stuff happening.

I think society is under huge pressure and this stuff is bubbling at the edges.


3 posted on 08/02/2011 9:45:31 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: quantim

My how times have changed. The first thing I look for when I see stories like this is whether the race/religion/political affiliation of the shooter is mentioned in the first few sentences. What the heck?


4 posted on 08/02/2011 9:45:50 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: quantim

Interesting, the name of the injured suspect was not released.


5 posted on 08/02/2011 9:46:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: quantim

Damn!!
Traffic stops and domestic violence. Two of the most dangerous situations a police officer get into.

RIP Officer McCandless


6 posted on 08/02/2011 9:49:18 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTY or no party)
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To: quantim

Was reading another thread about how being a cop is no more dangerous than falling off a stool at Dunkin’ Donuts.

These officers were doing their job. It’s dangerous. Thank God for them, and my sincerest condolences to all their families. They make it easier to sleep in a comfortable bed at night, instead of building a fire to ward off the wolves.

DK


7 posted on 08/02/2011 9:49:48 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: quantim
Interesting, the name of the injured suspect was not released.

Seems rather odd, since even the typical drunk driver is generally named in stories involving death and injury.

8 posted on 08/02/2011 9:54:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: doc1019

Three officers at the stop, makes you think they expected trouble.Now we will see if the judicial system works.


9 posted on 08/02/2011 10:00:14 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: quantim

If “routine stops” are so dangerous (to our unionized “heroes”), maybe they’d save a lot of trouble by waiting to stop people until there was a darn good “non-routine” reason.

These pretext traffic stops kill policemen. And they seem to be the trigger for violence.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 10:02:44 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: Big Horn

In a situation like this, three or four officers would be the norm. The call for backup usually gets a quick response.


11 posted on 08/02/2011 10:04:27 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: dragnet2; quantim

One Rapid City police officer is dead and two others wounded after a routine stop turned deadly.

James Ryan McCandless, 28, a six-year veteran of the department, was pronounced dead shortly after arriving at Rapid City Regional Hospital.

Nick Armstrong, 27, underwent surgery and remains in critical condition. A third officer, whose name was not immediately released pending notification of his next of kin, was shot in the face and is stable.

A Native American male in his 20s is the suspected shooter. Police didn’t release his name Tuesday night because of uncertainty about the suspect’s real identity, Police Chief Steve Allender said.

The officers had stopped a group of four subjects at the corner of...”

Read more:

http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/police-identify-officer-killed-in-the-line-of-duty/article_4039aa5c-bd58-11e0-9af7-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz1TwDjm7XT


12 posted on 08/02/2011 10:05:10 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT
A Native American male in his 20s is the suspected shooter. Police didn't release his name Tuesday night because of uncertainty about the suspect's real identity, Police Chief Steve Allender said

I'm confident they know exactly who this is.

In any event, if it's an Indian suspect, the reservations nowadays can be a little scary, as some of them have basically declared war on law enforcement. In some cases, they need to go in with multiple car loads of LEO's, just to serve a warrant.

13 posted on 08/02/2011 10:11:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Beelzebubba

Let me tell you about pretext stops.

I had a guy drop a pay phone in mid-sentence and run at the sight of my patrol car.

I would have a hard time articulating what crime he might have been committing but since I prefer to live in reality, I went down the street, turned around, and looked in the alley for him.

I was unable to find the guy, who I assumed had a big warrant or similar, and lurked in the shadows waiting for him to come back.

I wasn’t able to find him.

Had I been in the outside lane instead of the inside lane when we he ran, I would have been on his heels going down the alley.

I wasn’t, so I didn’t turn down the alley and face the ambush that was waiting for me.

4.5 hours later he was shot dead by my co-worker...his name was Maurice Clemmons and he had killed 4 officers 48 hours earlier.

That sir is not a pretextual stop, but it is basically what these officers had (per the story). That is a police officer seeing something suspicious and investigating it. It is not racial bias, profiling, a pretextual stop, or any other such non-sense.

These officers saw something suspicious and went to check it out. They paid some high prices. I can see nowhere in the article any shred of detail that would lead one to believe they did anything wrong legally or morally.

I think your take on it is wrong and you owe their memories an apology.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 10:15:06 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: dragnet2

One of my coworkers was just out in South Dakota visiting family on the “rez” and he said that the drug violence is getting pretty bad.


15 posted on 08/02/2011 10:20:35 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: dragnet2

There are problems on the Pine Ridge rez that go well beyond a “little scary.”


16 posted on 08/02/2011 10:23:56 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: mylife

No such thing as a “routine stop.”

RIP


17 posted on 08/02/2011 10:27:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: NVDave
There are problems on the Pine Ridge rez that go well beyond a “little scary.”

Ditto. Spent a year with Wife during Her public health payback on Pine Ridge and Rosebud. Another government health service success. [/sarc]
18 posted on 08/02/2011 10:32:48 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: mylife
I think society is under huge pressure and this stuff is bubbling at the edges. yep
19 posted on 08/02/2011 10:46:03 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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To: LucyT

A Native American male in his 20s is the suspected shooter.

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That was my first thought when I saw the headline.


20 posted on 08/02/2011 10:48:43 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: LucyT

First officer KIA in Rapid since 1985. That says a lot about Rapid City.

Prayers for the family.


21 posted on 08/02/2011 10:49:51 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: takenoprisoner

Its getting weird out there.


22 posted on 08/02/2011 10:53:34 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: smokingfrog

I know it.


23 posted on 08/02/2011 10:54:25 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: NVDave

My husband had to go down to the rez south of us to deliver some legal paperwork, I was worried the whole time because he is a pale blonde white man and they don’t like them there, also because it was the rez, he couldn’t take a gun with him.


24 posted on 08/02/2011 10:54:59 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Well done.


25 posted on 08/02/2011 10:58:24 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Dark Knight

I have seen stats that prove a janitor is more likely to get injured than an LEO. Logging is the most dangerous occupation.


26 posted on 08/03/2011 12:05:18 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Obama may not be a natural born citizen, but there is no denying that he is a natural born liar.)
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To: Sea Parrot
Logging is the most dangerous occupation.

It varies some from year to year. Logging is always in the top few, so are quarry workers, and deep sea fishermen. Driving a taxi or working at a 7-11 is more dangerous than being a cop.

27 posted on 08/03/2011 12:22:29 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Since you are an officer, I was wondering if you would also check out something that was “unusual” or “weird” but not necessarily “suspicious”.

Or at least what mental criteria you use before something that may fit the first two categories bumps you into “suspicious”?

I mean the example you gave is pretty clear suspicion, but there are a lot less subtle weird things that probably don’t trip the radar to investigate.


28 posted on 08/03/2011 12:25:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Dark Knight
Was reading another thread about how being a cop is no more dangerous than falling off a stool at Dunkin’ Donuts.

These officers were doing their job. It’s dangerous. Thank God for them, and my sincerest condolences to all their families. They make it easier to sleep in a comfortable bed at night, instead of building a fire to ward off the wolves.

Sorry, but being a taxi driver is a more dangerous job. Being a police officer isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. 

29 posted on 08/03/2011 1:24:11 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: Sea Parrot

I have seen stats that prove a janitor is more likely to get injured than an LEO. Logging is the most dangerous occupation.<<

So they get injured from falls. Like loggers. Both are honorable hard work. If you look to violence, nurses are number one for assaults on their person. But you don’t call a nurse, a logger, or a janitor to a violent scene that is still happening. If you’re issued a gun, and a vest as your safety equipment...guess what you’re expected to go to?

But I don’t like the ones that love the violence...or the ones that hate it.

But if you chose to treat them badly, only the ones that don’t care will remain. And they are Adam Henrys.

Your choice

DK


30 posted on 08/03/2011 1:48:27 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Sea Parrot

I think there’s a consensus thst the most dangerous job in the World is a White Farmer in South Africa.


31 posted on 08/03/2011 3:59:14 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Beelzebubba

You’re going to get slammed for saying that but I’m with you ,, these pretext stops to go fishing do harm the credibility of the police and foment anger and hatred for crushing our rights to be secure in our daily business.


32 posted on 08/03/2011 4:11:38 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: LucyT; quantim
Here is a pic of the fallen, Ryan McCandless, from 2010. RIP.


33 posted on 08/03/2011 4:24:26 AM PDT by library user (Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you're lazy.)
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To: RedCell

Knowhachamean. I used to assume they were the good guys and a bad guy got ‘em. Lately it seems the LEOs been shooting folks that ain’t bad guys. Now I am afraid to read ‘em is it seems what is next is not gonna be much fun...


34 posted on 08/03/2011 4:25:52 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

“There are problems on the Pine Ridge rez that go well beyond a “little scary.”

I can assure you this is nothing new. It goes back several years and the hate from a hundered plus years ago still festers.


35 posted on 08/03/2011 5:04:44 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: LucyT

***A Native American male in his 20s is the suspected shooter.***

For some strange reason I felt it was a “Native American”. Maybe it is because I remember the happenings near there back in 1973 and 1974.


36 posted on 08/03/2011 7:34:11 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: PA Engineer

***Ditto. Spent a year with Wife during Her public health payback on Pine Ridge and Rosebud. Another government health service success. [/sarc]***

Maybe poor health service is still better than a medicine man shaking beads around you.

But then we all may be looking for underground medicine men once Obamacare begins.


37 posted on 08/03/2011 7:38:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: reaganaut
***also because it was the rez, he couldn't’t take a gun with him.***

I've been on the rez in New Mexico and AZ several times and have always been ready for whatever, I just keep it very discrete.

38 posted on 08/03/2011 7:42:20 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I wish he would, but being an officer of the court, he would face professional repercussions if caught as well as legal ones.


39 posted on 08/03/2011 8:02:12 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Beelzebubba

So, instead of pulling someone over, you’d rather have cops wait until a much more serious crime is about to be committed?


40 posted on 08/03/2011 8:53:16 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: quantim

RIP.


41 posted on 08/03/2011 10:15:47 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: mylife

Sadly what most folks don’t understand is that this thing called civilization is actually a very very thin veneer poured over the mass of humanity & if you rub at one spot just a little to hard you can rub right thru it to the underlying savagery below .

The leftists who constantly scream for revolution do not understand this & the Republicans who do understand it are to frightened to tell the leftist in terms that they understand (blunt but targeted force ) to get a friggen clue.


42 posted on 08/03/2011 10:23:41 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: library user

Sad. Prayers for him and his family.


43 posted on 08/03/2011 10:29:38 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It’s more than poor medical care the Bureau of Indian Affairs is literally the most corrupt organization in the US govt. . Do some research into monies paid for the exploitation of mineral rights on Indian lands & what the Fed.Govt. has done ie billions of dollars worth of money gone missing.


44 posted on 08/03/2011 10:37:59 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: LucyT

This tragedy happened right in front of the home of one of our employees. He is a retired policeman himself, and is still pretty shaken by how it went down. Poor officer didn’t stand a chance.....shot at point blank range while he was questioning the “native American”.

By all accounts, McCandless was a rather extraordinary young man. He recently received his Master’s Degree while working for the PD at night. He also was a part-time instructor at the University here in Rapid. He was a familiar face around town because he did a lot of public service announcements for the PD and also a lot of benefit work for different organizations.

Such a senseless waste. He will be missed.


45 posted on 08/03/2011 12:55:17 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Beelzebubba

I think... yup, that’s the most ignorant thing I’ve read all day.
Good job.


46 posted on 08/04/2011 5:23:48 AM PDT by ak1287
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To: zeugma

Zuegma says: Sorry, but being a taxi driver is a more dangerous job. Being a police officer isn’t even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs.

In actuality, police lead in job-related homicides. Actually, I think they might have been behind retail.
So they’re accidental death rate is lower than most... But they get MURDERED more often. Your statistical analysis was off.


47 posted on 08/04/2011 5:23:52 AM PDT by ak1287
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To: quantim

My mother in law was talking about this last night.


48 posted on 08/04/2011 5:35:21 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: PA Engineer; NVDave
Grew up near a rez.

The government destroyed the Indians completely. They put them in a ghetto, fed them and allowed to live on welfare for all of their lives.

The results are quite sad. The better tribes are trying to pull themselves out of the spiral, and some of the Indians have decided it is better to leave. Many of my class mates growing up did that, and are very happy they did.

No, look at what the government did to the Indians, and now look at the inner cities. Part of me think it is on purpose.

49 posted on 08/04/2011 5:39:57 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ak1287

Condemning without evidence. Par for the course.


50 posted on 08/04/2011 6:56:38 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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