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Massive Global Cyberattack Targeting U.S., U.N. Discovered; Experts Blame China
Fox News ^ | August 03, 2011 | N/A

Posted on 08/03/2011 6:25:02 AM PDT by Freeport

The world's most extensive case of cyber-espionage, including attacks on U.S. government and U.N. computers, is set to be revealed Wednesday by online security firm McAfee, and analysts are speculating that China is behind the attacks.

The spying was dubbed "Operation Shady RAT," or "remote access tool" by McAfee -- and it led to a massive loss of information that poses a huge economic threat, wrote vice president of threat research Dmitri Alperovitch

"What is happening to all this data — by now reaching petabytes as a whole — is still largely an open question," Alperovitch wrote on a blog detailing the threat. "However, if even a fraction of it is used to build better competing products or beat a competitor at a key negotiation (due to having stolen the other team’s playbook), the loss represents a massive economic threat."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: china; computersecurity; cyberattack; espionage; hackers; itsecurity
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I say, if true, a 2000 lb'der through the server room is appropriate...
1 posted on 08/03/2011 6:25:07 AM PDT by Freeport
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To: Freeport
...and it led to a massive loss of information that poses a huge economic threat...

Couldn't be any worse of a threat than what we have in the White House.

2 posted on 08/03/2011 6:27:23 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Freeport

A big question is if it becomes clear at some point that Barky is going to lose re-election, do they go ahead and attack Taiwan before he leaves office.


3 posted on 08/03/2011 6:31:16 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Freeport
Zer0's next crisis?
4 posted on 08/03/2011 6:32:06 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Freeport

Wait, what?

The free traders told me that moving our manufacturing to China was good for us. China is our friend, right?


5 posted on 08/03/2011 6:32:46 AM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: Freeport

“The spying was dubbed “Operation Shady RAT...”

Wait a sec, are we talking about the Chinese, the White House, Harry Reid, or what?


6 posted on 08/03/2011 6:34:19 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

-——do they go ahead and attack Taiwan before he leaves office.——

That battle is moot. The economic cooperation, that is the money making business ties of companies from Taiwan and the mainland negates the need for hostile political takeover. IMV


7 posted on 08/03/2011 6:34:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: Freeport

I don’t know what is more frightening that it happened or the UN discovered it.


8 posted on 08/03/2011 6:36:32 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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To: Freeport

Petabytes!!! That is like completely stealing one of the world’s largest databases yet the management clowns are still considering moving major critical operations to the cloud. This is not a few hackers working in the basement; it is a very large powerful country with vast assets and the active/passive help and support of our Fuehrer and the democrat party.


9 posted on 08/03/2011 6:38:28 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: bert

They’ve been undergoing a huge military build-up the main focus of which appears to be prepping for an attack on Taiwan. The massive array of rocket launchers in particular would be a waste of resources if they’ve dropped the idea of a military attack.


10 posted on 08/03/2011 6:38:54 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Freeport

Looks like as time goes on, and it is coming out more that China has a corrupt banking system, it is shown that its economy is really built on a “house of cards”.


11 posted on 08/03/2011 6:44:21 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Freeport
What China does to us, is very likely being done right back to them, in triplicate.

We are some of the very best in the world.

12 posted on 08/03/2011 6:47:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America. Great idea. Couldn't last.)
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To: Freeport
Anyone, anyone, who's been paying attention to information security knows that it was just a matter of time before the pathetic state of what a typical US company considers computer security was breached in a devastating way. That a breach would lead to sensative economic, defense, or medical related information was a given.

So, what does the US learn from this? I'd guess the answer is not a d@mn thing. Some will give lip service to the idea of security, but most US corporations will take the polyanna approach and be quite comfortable assuming it can't happen to them. (Cynical? Nah.)

What is fascinating is the sphere of sites they targeted [emphasis mine]:

The governments of Canada, India, South Korea, Taiwan and Vietnam were also hit, as were the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, the International Olympic Committee, and the World Anti-Doping Agency, Reuters reported.

The hackers sought out sensitive data on U.S. military systems and satellite communications, with the snooping apparently going on for several years.

Companies in construction, steel, energy, solar power, technology, accounting and media were targeted.

13 posted on 08/03/2011 6:47:17 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Meet the New Boss
A big question is if it becomes clear at some point that Barky is going to lose re-election, do they go ahead and attack Taiwan before he leaves office.

Good question. But in our current weakened state they could probably do it in the first couple of years of his successor's term and not have to worry about serious retaliation. Taiwan (and others) will pay the price of relying on the fickle United States for protection.

14 posted on 08/03/2011 6:53:18 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Freeport

No, not china, they wouldn’t do anything like that. I thought they were our friends. They wouldn’t steal any intellectual property from us, would they?

(Dripping with sarsasm. Don’t get into bed with the devil if you don’t want to get screwed).


15 posted on 08/03/2011 6:56:58 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Freeport

The spying was dubbed "Operation Shady RAT"


16 posted on 08/03/2011 6:57:16 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Oh snap, my eyes hurt.... =.=


17 posted on 08/03/2011 6:59:41 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Freeport

The globalists are staging something here. Looking to blame China for the upcoming economic meltdown perhaps and a pretense for the inevitable war that comes after.


18 posted on 08/03/2011 7:01:48 AM PDT by wolfman
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To: Freeport

Want the keys to the kingdom? Go to the US patent office website. I found out so much about how the competition does things, it isn’t even funny. BTW our patent, copyright, and trademark laws are pretty much useless outside of the US. Don’t believe me? Try to contest it in a chinese court.

(My best advise: keep tour trade secrets SECRET).


19 posted on 08/03/2011 7:05:40 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Freeport

Cyber-attacks really are an act of war that could be more destructive to our economy, infrastructure, and defense capability than conventional warfare would be. But responding to them in proportion to their potential for harm is politically undoable.


20 posted on 08/03/2011 7:10:06 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Freeport

All narrowed to a single server?

McAfee is so yesterday...anyone can look back and see the damage that was done...what they need is software/methods from preventing attacks in the first place!

One company has proactive internet security solutions...and yes,in the interest of full disclosure, I’m an investor.

Take a look at Virnetx, this is the kind of preventative defense the internet and secure communications need going forward.


21 posted on 08/03/2011 7:21:03 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: COBOL2Java
dayumm .. those Rats got some fugly women on their team !


22 posted on 08/03/2011 7:29:29 AM PDT by tomkat (Sarah '12-'20)
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To: Freeport
I wonder how many of the successful attacks had help from inside. I suspect there are many moles in government these days because of lax background requirements.

Is the asst. chief of staff for the Secretary of State really an agent for the Muslim Brotherhood?? - just asking!

23 posted on 08/03/2011 7:35:20 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SueRae

Not if they get into your network and span your switch or pull off some port mirroring.


24 posted on 08/03/2011 7:37:22 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: factoryrat
"Go to the US patent office website. I found out so much about how the competition does things, it isn’t even funny.

The rest of the world has caught up with us. There is very little we can do to stop foreign countries from making and copying our stuff for their own purposes.

However patents and trademarks do allow us to stop foreign entities from counterfeiting and selling our ideas back to us for US dollars.

Ever wonder what our balance of trade with China would be if we sent them a bill for all the IP they've ripped-off over the past 10 years?
25 posted on 08/03/2011 7:59:35 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: Lazamataz

I would like to believe that, especially since the technologies almost certainly are developed in the West. And I presume we get the first dibs on them.

Still, this has to be a concern. A big one.


26 posted on 08/03/2011 7:59:35 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Just when you think the left can't get any loonier . . .)
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To: factoryrat

If Obama had any ____ at all, he’d immediately do something to punch China in the mouth, effectively saying “I know what you did here, and you had better not try that again.”

Basically, my idea is that we need to cut off their communications to the world for a day or two.... financial communications, voice, data, everything: enough to send a real message. This isn’t the first time they’ve pulled this... I think we’re into double digits now, at least... and this has got to stop.


27 posted on 08/03/2011 8:04:10 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: Freeport

28 posted on 08/03/2011 8:11:05 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Freeport

Can you say...Net Nuetrality...


29 posted on 08/03/2011 8:13:20 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: Freeport

Why not plant a series of virus-like files hidden among all the data? They should utterly corrupt and destroy whatever system it is on, and spread to every other connected system when any of that stolen data is accessed.

That will make any hacker think twice.


30 posted on 08/03/2011 8:21:28 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: Freeport

And this is just the data they are stealing over the Internet. What about all those businesses with intranets that connect to their companies in China. I have no doubt they are stealing info that way as well.

If a company does business with China you might as well consider your internal data compromised as well. Oh and you can’t fire the thief for doing it either as he’s a “forced-hire” from the government of China. If you want to do business in China you have to accept some politically appointees which are nothing more than spies.


31 posted on 08/03/2011 8:21:55 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: brownsfan
The free traders told me that moving our manufacturing to China was good for us. China is our friend, right?

Socialized risk is a trade subsidy, as is military protection for American investments abroad. We are paying taxes to export our jobs.

32 posted on 08/03/2011 8:31:02 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: "We need a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Freeport
They're just keeping an eye on their investment. They own us now don't they? /s

The pusillanimous dork currently in the WH will do nothing.

33 posted on 08/03/2011 8:31:21 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: unixfox

Couldn’t be any worse of a threat than what we have in the White House.
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NOTHING is worse than that, NOTHING!!!! The economy will never improve until he is out of there. I would stake my life on that fact.


34 posted on 08/03/2011 8:33:34 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: alancarp
If Obama had any ____ at all, he’d immediately do something to punch China in the mouth, effectively saying “I know what you did here, and you had better not try that again __________________________

Now look at these photos and tell me what you think the odds are:

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35 posted on 08/03/2011 8:42:31 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Carry_Okie

“We are paying taxes to export our jobs.”

I agree. And many of us here warned of a socialist being elected, crumbling infrastructure, and a nose diving domestic economy.

The free traders just laughed and told us we didn’t understand.


36 posted on 08/03/2011 8:45:48 AM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Who needs a budget fight when during this fight they slip out all our trade and secrets to China...

And the GOP RINOs join or make up with that gang without an ounce of shame and much wagging the finger at Christians and the T-Party.


37 posted on 08/03/2011 9:34:10 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Lazamataz

That would be comforting if the US was trying to secure its information. I have no doubt the Chinese are.


38 posted on 08/03/2011 9:41:16 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: mojitojoe

Of course - I know it won’t happen.... we have the first girlie President ever in the White House now: not the first woman, not the first African-American. The first Wimp.


39 posted on 08/03/2011 9:44:38 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: for-q-clinton

A year or so ago didn’t The Messiah turn the control of the internet over to some international organization? Wonder where Soros is?


40 posted on 08/03/2011 9:59:22 AM PDT by Flint
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To: Lazamataz
What China does to us, is very likely being done right back to them, in triplicate.

Ya but what good's it do to learn what we already know???

41 posted on 08/03/2011 10:07:43 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
Ya but what good's it do to learn what we already know???

Well, not to divulge too much, but are you SURE we haven't learned how to crash Chinese aircraft, overload Chinese power grids, cause Chinese nuclear reactors to go haywire, shut down the entire Chinese communication grid, and disable Chinese weapons (including nuclear ones)?

Can you TRULY be sure of that?

:)

42 posted on 08/03/2011 10:21:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America. Great idea. Couldn't last.)
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To: Freeport
"I say, if true, a 2000 lb'der through the server room is appropriate"

Not necessary.

First, the US is better at this type of activity than anyone, though I'm certain that we have NEVER utilized our skills:)

Second, I'm ALSO sure the perps didn't download any malicious code that would compromise their own systems and data.

I'm sure of it:)

43 posted on 08/03/2011 10:28:43 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
First, the US is better at this type of activity than anyone, though I'm certain that we have NEVER utilized our skills:) Second, I'm ALSO sure the perps didn't download any malicious code that would compromise their own systems and data. I'm sure of it:)

See my #42, and I bet you we both have certain knowledge of various issues. :D

44 posted on 08/03/2011 10:40:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America. Great idea. Couldn't last.)
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To: Freeport
Once upon a time we had US Presidents with enough spine to tell the perp counties to stop or there would be consequences.

A cyber attack can wreck your communications systems, your air traffic control systems, your railroad systems, your satellite systems, your financial systems includiong your banks, and your power grid. It is an act of war and should be treated as such.

45 posted on 08/03/2011 12:21:07 PM PDT by Rapscallion (All Democrats are equal but some Democrats are more equal than others.)
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To: Lazamataz

Loose lips sink ships guys...


46 posted on 08/03/2011 12:23:05 PM PDT by Teflonic
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It is an act of war and should be treated as such.

True. But I think Janet Napolitano came out and said that such attacks would be treated as civil offenses.

47 posted on 08/03/2011 12:26:44 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: brownsfan

China’s a better friend to us than the free traders are. That’s not saying much, though.


48 posted on 08/03/2011 12:30:55 PM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: Freeport

I can definitely support the attack on UN computers. lol


49 posted on 08/03/2011 12:36:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Its pretty clear that Obie Won won’t care if China attacks Taiwan


50 posted on 08/03/2011 12:38:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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