Skip to comments.King Tut and half of European men share DNA
Posted on 08/04/2011 7:57:05 AM PDT by Red Badger
According to a group of geneticists in Switzerland from iGENEA, the DNA genealogy center, as many as half of all European men and 70 percent of British men share the same DNA as the Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun, or King Tut.
For a film created for the Discovery Channel, scientists worked to reconstruct the DNA of the young male King, his father Akhenaten and his grandfather Amenhotep III. They discovered that King Tut had a DNA profile that belongs to a group called haplogroup R1b1a2. This group can be found in over 50 percent of European men and shows the researchers that there is a common ancestor.
This genetic profile group is also found in 70 percent of Spanish males and 60 percent of French males however, it is only present in less than one percent of men in modern-day Egyptian men.
The R1b1a2 DNA haplogroup is believed to have originated in the Black Sea region some 9500 years ago and spread to Europe with the spread of agriculture in 7000BC. Researchers are unsure as to how and when the group first came to Egypt. They believe the reasoning the R1b1a2 haplogroup is rarely found in modern-day Egypt is due partially to European immigration throughout the last 2000 years.
iGENEA plans to continue to search for more DNA lineage and are looking to discover King Tuts closest living relatives. They announced this week that they are selling a DNA service for between 139 and 399 euros and they will test the DNA of those people who are interested in seeing how related to King Tut they may be. This offer, according to Roman Scholz who is the director of iGENEA, has already gained a lot of interest.
Tuthankamen's famous burial mask, on display in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo. Source: wikipedia
Funny, he don't look French...............
Naw, naw, naw!
Everybody knows the ancient Egyptians were black, their kings especially.
Human population migrations are damn interesting. How did they Egyptians get to Europe? How did the present day Egyptians get to Egypt? How to account for the totality of the Egyptian haplotype replacement, genocide?
What *is* interesting is that this would presume a link between the western world and the Third Dynasty. Something which was presumed not to be the case.
Seems to be that one of his descendents were around during the time of Alexander, and connections between the Romans and the Egyptians.
“This genetic profile group is also found in 70 percent of Spanish males and 60 percent of French males however, it is only present in less than one percent of men in modern-day Egyptian men.”
Muslim Invasion of Egypt took care of that.
But any Egyptian men without the proper DNA link to King Tut need to go back to where they came from or pay a properly negotiated jizya to the rightful owners of the land.
“He’s my favorite Honky.”
Thought he was from Arizona?
The Arabs moved in and displaced the semi-indigenous population, who either fled or died at the hands of Islam..................
This will come as a surprise to Farrakahn..............
I always thought it fascinating that Ramses the Great had red wavy hair.
Like from ADAM! Romans 1:22
That’s what they are saying. The immigrants who have displaced the traditional europeans have the traits, silly!
His mother supposedly was one of his aunts. His father’s sister. Who really knows who the mother was. Maybe a slave procured from the shores of Europe gave birth to the King’s child and was pawned off as the king/queen brother/sister’s progeny.
Who were the “semi-indigenous populations” of Egypt? Just wondering.
The last rightful air to King Tut Tut’s throne lives in a Vega near a big pyramid shaped building in the Nevada dessert and plays a lot of faro.
Plus he’s really dark skinned and talks funny so I guess he should have his DNR checked, huh?
Tut, nicknamed the ‘Stilt’, was actually almost 6’5”, and in his youth played for the Cairo Capitols.
“men share the same DNA”
Doubt it. Could be we share similar DNA but not the same.
Not really. Apparently there are very few ‘Egyptians’ left in Egypt. They have been replaced by Arabs.............What this article means is that the true Egyptians migrated into Europe millenia ago and became the ‘natives’...................
Look at the Egypt of Tut and Amenhotep and all that culture accomplished and then take a close look at the squalor of modern Egypt. Does anyone really believe that these people are the modern descendents of that great race? I certainly don’t. I’m not in the least surprised to see that only 1% of modern Egyptians share DNA with that ancient culture.
“...this would presume a link between the western world and the Third Dynasty.”
I think it just means that Tut and many Europeans share a common ancestor.
I was going to give the same reply to post #7.
Not my haplogroup (I1)
That was my thought as well. :)
That’s another possibility. Depends on where the ‘closest ancestor’ turns up, and their genealogy.
Wouldn’t it be wild if Queen Elizabeth were the closest relative to King Tut?
That’s another possibility.
It’s possible, but unlikely that the Ancient Egyptians originally came from Europe. More likely, that they came from the black sea region at the beginning of the holocene, and eventually migrated down there.
So the only contact between Europeans and Egyptians would have been a very long time ago. It all depends on which half of the British people turn out to have the Tut connection. If it’s the half that were there prior to the Romans (ie, Celtiberians, etc, then yes, it would go back to there.
If it turns up in the Roman era Britons, then that would be very cool, and would likely imply that the connection runs from Egypt to Europe. Which would be really cool.
I can see a little resemblance...
If the Copt population were broken out I'm sure the incidence of that haplogroup would match European percentages.
The entire R1b group is extremely rare among the Jewish people, with less than 10% expressing any of the R1b groups, so it appears that King Tut was “not a Jew.”
Looks like you are right. It’s Celtiberian distribution.
Man, I wish I were as smart as you.
Actually, it turns out the 1 percent is from British immigrants to Egypt from the time it was a British colony.
The Copts seem to be Semitic people, like the Jews, moreso then the Celtiberians or the Greeks.
Thank You, quite enlightening.
I was thinking the same thing.
The Arabs are currently trying to annihilate the Copts.........
This sort of thing rarely happens, if ever, as per Cavalli-Sforza. The rural agricultural populations that are the base of all civilized cultures are very hard to eradicate. Conquerors generally just replace the upper classes and at best the urban centers, which historically have been population sinks - where races go to die.
Also, other factors such as historically linked languages - Coptic is related to Arabic, etc., suggest that the present Egyptian population is in fact descended mainly from the ancient Egyptian population.
There is an assumption that King Tut was of the same ethnicity as the Egyptians he ruled. Cleopatra and Ptolemy (despite the afro-centrists beliefs) were Greek -- after Alexander the Great conquered Egypt, he installed a new Macedonian ruling class. During the period around 2000BC to 1550BC the Hyksos from (apparently) western Asia (Middle East) invaded and ruled Egypt. So the genetics of the ruling class may not be representative of the common people.
Or the dynasty had aquired a strong European strain at some point, preserved by inbreeding.
It can mean a lot of things, but that seems like one of the less likely explanations.
It could just mean that the Egyptian royal family had a strong European strain at the time, from even a rather distant ancestor.
Cavalli-Sforza has shown that for the most part genetic variation among human populations is gradual by distance, barring isolation, except where a small pre-agricultural population was replaced by a much more numerous agricultural one - because agriculture supports orders of magnitudes more people.
Once there are millions of peasants living on the land it is quite difficult to get rid of them.
Yes, but Arabic isn’t a Celtic language. That’s the problem here.
Well Tut’s dynasty lasted for quite some time. It’s possible that the people who ruled Egypt by the third dynasty were not the same as the people who ruled in the 1st and 2nd.
However, the origins of Tut and his family could be explained if they had Assyrian ancestry and Thutmose I married into the existing Egyptian royal family.
However, that still doesn’t change the enormous population dislocation of the end of the Roman Empire.
Egypt has been a crossroads for humanity for millenia. The people who live there now are not the descendants of the people who built the great civilizations of the past. The ancient Egyptians of the pre-Alexander era, were most likely traders with the Phoenicians (Carthage, Spain, Tyre and Sidon) and may have hitched a ride with them to southwestern Europe when things got heated in the wars with Babylon, Assyria and eventually Greece and Rome. When they moved out, the Arabs moved in....................
By the time of King Tut several dynasties had already risen and fallen in Egypt and so it would be hard to identify a direct lineage back to the original founders of the kingdom. A successful general could ascend to become Pharaoh by marrying the daughter of the previous one, and sometimes a son of a Pharaoh would marry his own sister to gain legitimacy. So if anything, their genetics could be a very, shall we say, unusual mix.
Tutanhkamun was one of the pharaohs of the 18th dynasty (New Kingdom) in the 1300s—the 3rd dynasty was in the Old Kingdom more than 1000 years earlier.