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Reid announces deal on FAA funding
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Posted on 08/04/2011 1:45:27 PM PDT by Perdogg

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, announced Thursday that Democratic and Republican leaders have "been able to broker a bipartisan compromise between the House and the Senate" to fully fund the Federal Aviation Administration.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: faa; lahood; nevada; raylahood; reid; transportation
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1 posted on 08/04/2011 1:45:30 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Thank God! Now we can have aviation again.


2 posted on 08/04/2011 1:48:44 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Perdogg

I just realized how very much smaller the FAA could be. No one even noticed they were gone.


3 posted on 08/04/2011 1:51:05 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: Perdogg

Didn’t even know there was a problem-shows how ‘vital’ these Gov’t organizations are.


4 posted on 08/04/2011 1:51:34 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration

Congressional leaders? Does that mean Bonehead caved again.


5 posted on 08/04/2011 1:52:39 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
Thank God! Now we can have aviation again.

We never lost any aviation just guys cutting the grass and some secretaries. The federal employees will be paid and the contractors will have unpaid vacation.

6 posted on 08/04/2011 1:53:12 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Perdogg

“Fully Fund!?” Does this mean no cuts to the FAA budget? If not, that little bump in the dept limit might not last until the 2012 elections.


7 posted on 08/04/2011 1:53:57 PM PDT by DrDavid (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Noamie

The only real negativity besides the workers not being able to be paid and pay bills was the fact that we lost 2 billion dollars in lost tickets. That is not really a positive at all.


8 posted on 08/04/2011 1:54:58 PM PDT by napscoordinator (HI]]\]\)
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To: Perdogg

Story says that they’ve worked out a short-term compromise, but it doesn’t give any details.

And, Congress is away on vacation, so they’d have to figure out a way to get them to all come in back for a vote...


9 posted on 08/04/2011 1:55:08 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Mouton

Does a bear shit in the woods?


10 posted on 08/04/2011 1:55:22 PM PDT by sport
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To: Perdogg

“fully funded” means the Dems won again


11 posted on 08/04/2011 1:55:58 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Mouton
Actually, Boehner's bill (the House bill) is part of what seems to have caused the Dems to have a tizzy in the first place.

It withdrew funding from some small airports in Dem territories like NM.

12 posted on 08/04/2011 1:57:17 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Perdogg

Fox is reporting that the Senate will vote on the House bill then the White House will “waive” the part of the bill they don’t like or agree with.


13 posted on 08/04/2011 1:58:51 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: GeronL
Not if the Dems had to give up the new union voting rules.

The story doesn't say how it was resolved so it's hard to tell.

14 posted on 08/04/2011 1:59:15 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Perdogg

translation: the 7% ticket tax is back.

I wonder if bending forwards so much hurts the republican leadership.


15 posted on 08/04/2011 1:59:53 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Perdogg

Cause a problem and then get credit for solving it—temporarily.


16 posted on 08/04/2011 2:00:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Perdogg

Why is it everything they do has “DEAL !!!” attached to it ? Deal for ,for the country , NOT


17 posted on 08/04/2011 2:02:28 PM PDT by molson209
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To: kabar

They had to solve it quickly because it wasn’t gaining traction or attention. **rolling my eyes**


18 posted on 08/04/2011 2:03:08 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: Siena Dreaming
"This agreement does not resolve the important differences that still remain," Reid said in a written statement. "But I believe we should keep Americans working while Congress settles its differences, and this agreement will do exactly that."
19 posted on 08/04/2011 2:04:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: napscoordinator
The only real negativity besides the workers not being able to be paid and pay bills was the fact that we lost 2 billion dollars in lost tickets.

But you've got to give the airlines credit for moving fast. When the feds stopped collecting the tax, they all moved immediately to raise their fares an equivalent amount.

20 posted on 08/04/2011 2:06:17 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Perdogg

Nobody knew the FAA was shut down. Everybody enjoyed the tax savings.

Republicans can add this to the list of taxes RAISED by Obama.

Oh, and just so we’re clear, Government Jobs are not real jobs.


21 posted on 08/04/2011 2:06:34 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Siena Dreaming

I was guessing the problem was that Dems wanted their nearly-private airports subsidized so they can fly directly to their district and not drive from a big city airport.


22 posted on 08/04/2011 2:10:21 PM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: DrDavid
If not, that little bump in the dept limit might not last until the 2012 elections.

I heard that is was already half spent as of today.

23 posted on 08/04/2011 2:10:42 PM PDT by clove (God, Family and Country, the truth will live!)
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To: Beaten Valve

I read where it would be funded short-term to the end of the current fiscal year i.e. end of September.

The small airport subsidizes were removed by the House and the WH says they’ll just waive those rules.

The GOP “deals” and gets screwed again.

So, as usual, if BO doesn’t like a law he just ignores it.

Why this guy isn’t in jail is beyond me.


24 posted on 08/04/2011 2:12:33 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with political parties. The GOP is useless. Anarchy is perferable to this CRAP!)
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To: tobyhill
Fox is reporting that the Senate will vote on the House bill then the White House will “waive” the part of the bill they don’t like or agree with.

What, Hussein by "executive order" will decide to give the subsidies back? When did that giant jackass get the power to write legislation?

25 posted on 08/04/2011 2:12:48 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Fledermaus

So send Mike Lee in to filibuster this crap. Hussein doesn’t want to follow the law? Don’t give in.


26 posted on 08/04/2011 2:13:48 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Beaten Valve
I think the house passed a stop gap bill, that included no funding for smaller airports that subsidize passengers, and no have FAA employees unionized.. and it would go till Sept 23, it was agreed upon I understand in the senate till boxer put the blitz to it.. and Reid just said to hell with it and left.. I called Barbies office and asked for her apologize to the Nation for lying and blaming this on the republicans when it was the dems in the senate that blocked the funding.. in the first place
27 posted on 08/04/2011 2:16:44 PM PDT by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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To: Perdogg

The disagreement and delay had to do with a provision in the FAA funding bill to roll back a sneaky regulation that makes it easier to unionize. Republicans put the provision in the bill. Harry Reid refused to compromise on the change.

This is basically the same as the “Card Check” rule that the unions want Obama to put into law. It allows a shop to be unionized when a majority of those voting vote yes to unionize. Traditionally the approval to unionize a shop requires a yes vote from majority of the total employees, regardless of how many voted.

See this (from Huffpo of all places!):

“FAA Shutdown At Stake In House, Senate Clash Over Union Organizing”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/19/faa-shutdown-union-organizing_n_904049.html

“The root of the dispute is a labor provision in a long-term FAA funding bill passed by the House in April. The Republican-sponsored provision would make it more difficult for airline and railroad workers to unionize by overturning a National Mediation Board rule approved last year. It allows employees in those industries to form a union by a simple majority of those voting. Under the old rule, workers who didn’t vote were treated as “no” votes.”


28 posted on 08/04/2011 2:17:14 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: tobyhill
Fox is reporting that the Senate will vote on the House bill then the White House will “waive” the part of the bill they don’t like or agree with.

That is essentially a line item veto which was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court back in 1998.


29 posted on 08/04/2011 2:25:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: tobyhill; sickoflibs; Oldeconomybuyer; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3
Fox is reporting that the Senate will vote on the House bill then the White House will “waive” the part of the bill they don’t like or agree with.

I'll take a wild guess and say that he will "waive" the omission of pro-union changes via the NLRB.

30 posted on 08/04/2011 2:27:17 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Perdogg

Great.....politicians caused the problem, let it run for a few weeks and then say they fixed it. You think Obama won’t take credit for something he caused in the first place?


31 posted on 08/04/2011 2:28:33 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Siena Dreaming

It was about Unions and small regional airports (that only politicians use because the tickets from there are astronomical)and government ticket subsidies up to $3000 per ticket.


32 posted on 08/04/2011 2:29:58 PM PDT by 30Moves
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To: Perdogg
OK, without reading the article I'm going to guess.....GOP caved.

Am I right?

33 posted on 08/04/2011 2:30:53 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West (this tagline under review))
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To: Noamie

How can we have the FAA if we have no private jets to pay for landing fees? Again, this is very scary when Reid makes commando king pronouncements like these, like he invented the internet or something.


34 posted on 08/04/2011 2:31:47 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Iron Munro; tobyhill; sickoflibs; Oldeconomybuyer; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
The root of the dispute is a labor provision in a long-term FAA funding bill passed by the House in April. The Republican-sponsored provision would make it more difficult for airline and railroad workers to unionize by overturning a National Mediation Board rule approved last year. It allows employees in those industries to form a union by a simple majority of those voting. Under the old rule, workers who didn’t vote were treated as “no” votes.

See post #30.

35 posted on 08/04/2011 2:32:42 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Perdogg

Mitch McConnel: 21st Century Cave Man.


36 posted on 08/04/2011 2:33:55 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

I thought it was congressman Mica who was the sticking point...what did bonehead do, tell him he would strip him of his committeeship if he did not stop holding it up??


37 posted on 08/04/2011 2:34:57 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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38 posted on 08/04/2011 2:36:35 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
If it was bipartisan, Repubs caved again. Been reading and heard Rush today about the FAA deal. Ostensibly, it was about govt. funding airlines in rural areas to subsidize people who have to pay more to fly because of where they live.

The real deal was card check being slipped in the back door to unionize without secret ballot--If only 50 employees voted and there was a bigger number of pro union, the 50 would be counted the total eligible to vote, even though 100 more people sat it out. So 34 of 150 employees could vote in a union and not with secret ballots--the non secret ballots being why 100 employees sat it out.

Reid was out ranting his usual "Repubs are holding the nation hostage" tactics again. Repubs caved, when they should have told Reid to suck eggs, like the snake he is.

vaudine

39 posted on 08/04/2011 2:39:14 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Mouton

No, I think the hold up is in the Senate.


40 posted on 08/04/2011 2:39:35 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: vaudine
Repubs caved

How did they cave?

I've read that a few times...why are you saying it?

41 posted on 08/04/2011 2:41:31 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Perdogg

42 posted on 08/04/2011 2:44:39 PM PDT by topfile
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Funny thing, no one missed the fact that is was shut down...I only heard about because a friend of mine posted something about last week that FAA was shutdown.. time to privitize this agency.


43 posted on 08/04/2011 2:52:37 PM PDT by scbison
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To: Beaten Valve
...Congress is away on vacation, so they’d have to figure out a way to get them to all come in back for a vote...

Not true. Congress is NOT on vacation. Just members are not present. It is still gaveled into session each day (House stays in session so Obama can't recess appoint anyone). A unanimous consent can be ruled if one member requests it. If no objections - voila! A bill passes.

44 posted on 08/04/2011 2:58:03 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
See post #30.

Probably correct - that is likely what he will do.

But see post #29.


45 posted on 08/04/2011 3:06:47 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: Siena Dreaming
IF THEY AGREED WITH WHAT DEMS WANTED, THEY CAVED TO :

1. EAR MARKS--subsidies for airlines that fly empty or half empty to accomodate a small number of fliers.

2.CARD CHECK TO FORM UNIONS WITHOUT A SECRET BALLOT. This measure was brought up before, but couldn't pass. It would allow union organizers to know WHO was voting against the union. I explained how it would work in my ex. in earlier post.

150 employees in a place. Union is voted on NOT using secret ballot. Only 50 employees vote, so they are considered ALL that are eligible to vote. 34 want union; 16 vote against union in spite of letting union organizers know who they are. 100 employees abstain because they do not want union and do not to be hassled by organizers. The union comes in and all 150 have to join to work there because 50 is considered the total number eligible to vote.

That is my understanding of what it is. A back door to "card check" just as Obama is finding ways to implement everything he wants without going through an actual vote in the two chambers--a negotiated settlement, that if true makes unions a wholel ot easier to organize. This is just one employer, but it would be a trend and would be yet another payoff to Obama's union people.

vaudine

46 posted on 08/04/2011 3:12:27 PM PDT by vaudine
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47 posted on 08/04/2011 3:13:37 PM PDT by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . Fat & Furious - Burger & Fries Queen*s 1700+ calorie lunches . . . . .)
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To: Perdogg

Is this another labor union bail out?


48 posted on 08/04/2011 3:19:13 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Iron Munro
But see post #29.

Which is why he probably won't try a line item veto. In the tradition of Slick Willy, it depends on what "waive" means. Maybe he has another bizarre scheme I haven't thought of in mind.

Somebody posted that Fox News used the word "waive" but it was not in the posted article. I don't even know the exact source.

49 posted on 08/04/2011 3:34:16 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: vaudine
IF THEY AGREED WITH WHAT DEMS WANTED...That is my understanding of what it is.

I don't know why you're understanding it that way.

There's no indication in any story I've read that they agreed to what the Dems wanted.

In fact, Fox is saying Reid will likely pass the House bill.

50 posted on 08/04/2011 3:36:00 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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